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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Originally posted by Propulsion
If these images are the same, than I'm Mickey Mouse...
The logical part of one's brain tells you, it screams at you, that first image cannot ever be taken from 250 feet from the moon's surface, it does not equate with the image from the actual surface.
From 250 feet up, from this image, what exactly are we looking at- the scale if completely and utterly off- come on guys it's flipping obvious!
Originally posted by r2d246
the moon landing was filmed in a hollywood studio, enough said.
Moon hoaxers read the posts to your questions
Originally posted by Tardacus
reply to post by wmd_2008
now thats what i would expect to see, i have no problem with that photo. It`s the photos that show no berms,the photos that show the pad sitting on top of the dust, the photos that show not a single pebble or bit of dust in the bowl shaped pads that i have a problem with.edit on 4-9-2012 by Tardacus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Tardacus
Originally posted by wmd_2008
Originally posted by Tardacus
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by Tardacus
Or the light source is a very large distance away say 93,000,000 miles so the light is parallel when it arrives at the moon!!!
what?? that doesn`t explain anything. the sun is relatively the same distance from the moon as it is from the earth. hold your finger up in front of the window, now move your finger back and forth across the window,and observe the shadow that it is casting on the far wall, is the shadow moving?
The shadow is from part of the craft and it is moving relative to the surface of the moon but not the window as its part of the lander
what?!
it doesn`t matter that it`s attached to the craft,when the light source changes position the shadow will change position.
The only 2 explainations for why that shadow does not change position on the window are:
1) the light source that is creating the shadow is attached to the craft or
2) the craft is not deviating even an inch in any direction from the light source throughout it`s entire descent and landing.
Originally posted by HomerinNC
reply to post by 1BornPatriot
The reason we landed on the side of the moon that faces us is because of the communication technology available at that time.
Originally posted by geobro
reply to post by 46ACE
noise & heat those guys must have been supermen with that heat & the noise from the suits on there backs yet not a sound can be heard over the radios of their bodys struggling i bet those guys lost a lot of weight up there and were pretty sweaty i always had problems with vision in masks but those guys were cool as cucumbers in 400c no visor mist ups . I often wondered that sweating like a pig at work some days and had a airline down my neck and that was at a balmy 130 C wish i had some of that equitment .
i have done some crazy things in my life but for all the money in china i would not put on one of those suits and go into A VACUME AT 400C even on earth the water in those packs would last minutes not hours
The Apollo suit consisted of the following:
A water-cooled nylon undergarment
A multi-layered pressure suit: inside layer - lightweight nylon with fabric vents; middle layer - neoprene-coated nylon to hold pressure; outer layer - nylon to restrain the pressurized layers beneath
Five layers of aluminized Mylar interwoven with four layers of Dacron for heat protection
Two layers of Kapton for additional heat protection
A layer of Teflon-coated cloth (nonflammable) for protection from scrapes
A layer of white Teflon cloth (nonflammable)
The suit had boots, gloves, a communications cap and a clear plastic helmet. During liftoff, the suit's oxygen and cooling water were supplied by the ship.
For walking on the moon, the space suit was supplemented with a pair of protective overboots, gloves with rubber fingertips, a set of filters/visors worn over the helmet for protection from sunlight, and a portable life support backpack that contained oxygen, carbon-dioxide removal equipment and cooling water. The space suit and backpack weighed 180 lb (82 kg) on Earth, but only 30 lb (14 kg) on the moon.
exacally a lot of layers a lot going on in those suits but no noise ?no mist up from the face how much water did those suits have for a two hour play about and no noise think about it strange some of that tech aint available today
Originally posted by 46ACE
Originally posted by geobro
reply to post by 46ACE
noise & heat those guys must have been supermen with that heat & the noise from the suits on there backs yet not a sound can be heard over the radios of their bodys struggling i bet those guys lost a lot of weight up there and were pretty sweaty i always had problems with vision in masks but those guys were cool as cucumbers in 400c no visor mist ups . I often wondered that sweating like a pig at work some days and had a airline down my neck and that was at a balmy 130 C wish i had some of that equitment .
i have done some crazy things in my life but for all the money in china i would not put on one of those suits and go into A VACUME AT 400C even on earth the water in those packs would last minutes not hours
You are merely speculating based on experience in an earth bound sandblast(powder paint?) hood and hot miserable conditions. All I can do is point out basic science and
try to convince you 400c in Air is a convection
oven. 400c in a vacuum is radiant heat(heatwaves)like standing under a broiler.a few layers of tinfoil would deflect the heat. as long as there's no "convection" ( hot air movement) or contact;i.e."conduction" heat (flowing through materials from hot to cold ) the astronauts were safe.They wore "watercooled underwear"and had a cool filtered humidity controlled air supply.
Never having worn a cutting edge technology moon suit.
How can you even propose to speculate how "uncomfortable" or"impossible" it would be?Here I'll even do a little googlework for you; but this is the last time..
Apollo moon suits:
The Apollo suit consisted of the following:
A water-cooled nylon undergarment
A multi-layered pressure suit: inside layer - lightweight nylon with fabric vents; middle layer - neoprene-coated nylon to hold pressure; outer layer - nylon to restrain the pressurized layers beneath
Five layers of aluminized Mylar interwoven with four layers of Dacron for heat protection
Two layers of Kapton for additional heat protection
A layer of Teflon-coated cloth (nonflammable) for protection from scrapes
A layer of white Teflon cloth (nonflammable)
The suit had boots, gloves, a communications cap and a clear plastic helmet. During liftoff, the suit's oxygen and cooling water were supplied by the ship.
For walking on the moon, the space suit was supplemented with a pair of protective overboots, gloves with rubber fingertips, a set of filters/visors worn over the helmet for protection from sunlight, and a portable life support backpack that contained oxygen, carbon-dioxide removal equipment and cooling water. The space suit and backpack weighed 180 lb (82 kg) on Earth, but only 30 lb (14 kg) on the moon.
science.howstuffworks.com...
I don't think you are quite understanding the importance of the whole "vacuum thing".
And I gotta' "get a life" today
( I've got a 50% off coupon!)!
Like"Denver22" said above " give it a rest; you're all starting to look a bit "silly"....
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Originally posted by 3danimator
reply to post by geobro
You are just speculating. Because your glasses fog up you think the astronauts helmet should too?
Originally posted by wmd_2008
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The shadow is from part of the craft and it is moving relative to the surface of the moon but not the window as its part of the lander
Originally posted by 3danimator
reply to post by smurfy
How could anyone think that was a shadow cast on the moon????
Originally posted by geobro
exacally a lot of layers a lot going on in those suits but no noise ?no mist up from the face how much water did those suits have for a two hour play about and no noise think about it strange some of that tech aint available today
Originally posted by 46ACE
Originally posted by geobro
reply to post by 46ACE
noise & heat those guys must have been supermen with that heat & the noise from the suits on there backs yet not a sound can be heard over the radios of their bodys struggling i bet those guys lost a lot of weight up there and were pretty sweaty i always had problems with vision in masks but those guys were cool as cucumbers in 400c no visor mist ups . I often wondered that sweating like a pig at work some days and had a airline down my neck and that was at a balmy 130 C wish i had some of that equitment .
i have done some crazy things in my life but for all the money in china i would not put on one of those suits and go into A VACUME AT 400C even on earth the water in those packs would last minutes not hours
You are merely speculating based on experience in an earth bound sandblast(powder paint?) hood and hot miserable conditions. All I can do is point out basic science and
try to convince you 400c in Air is a convection
oven. 400c in a vacuum is radiant heat(heatwaves)like standing under a broiler.a few layers of tinfoil would deflect the heat. as long as there's no "convection" ( hot air movement) or contact;i.e."conduction" heat (flowing through materials from hot to cold ) the astronauts were safe.They wore "watercooled underwear"and had a cool filtered humidity controlled air supply.
Never having worn a cutting edge technology moon suit.
How can you even propose to speculate how "uncomfortable" or"impossible" it would be?Here I'll even do a little googlework for you; but this is the last time..
Apollo moon suits:
The Apollo suit consisted of the following:
A water-cooled nylon undergarment
A multi-layered pressure suit: inside layer - lightweight nylon with fabric vents; middle layer - neoprene-coated nylon to hold pressure; outer layer - nylon to restrain the pressurized layers beneath
Five layers of aluminized Mylar interwoven with four layers of Dacron for heat protection
Two layers of Kapton for additional heat protection
A layer of Teflon-coated cloth (nonflammable) for protection from scrapes
A layer of white Teflon cloth (nonflammable)
The suit had boots, gloves, a communications cap and a clear plastic helmet. During liftoff, the suit's oxygen and cooling water were supplied by the ship.
For walking on the moon, the space suit was supplemented with a pair of protective overboots, gloves with rubber fingertips, a set of filters/visors worn over the helmet for protection from sunlight, and a portable life support backpack that contained oxygen, carbon-dioxide removal equipment and cooling water. The space suit and backpack weighed 180 lb (82 kg) on Earth, but only 30 lb (14 kg) on the moon.
science.howstuffworks.com...
I don't think you are quite understanding the importance of the whole "vacuum thing".
And I gotta' "get a life" today
( I've got a 50% off coupon!)!
Like"Denver22" said above " give it a rest; you're all starting to look a bit "silly"....
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Originally posted by geobro
reply to post by 3danimator
air being fed into a helmet makes a noise a lot of have spent many hours being airfed at work and i dont need glasses