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Disturbing lack of coverage of the Yosemite National Park Virus

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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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I was sat in front of my television the other day, and was shocked to find an item about Yosemite national park in the USA. Apparantly there have been fatalities attributed to a particular virus that seem to be centred around the camp grounds/ cabins that can be found there. The area has of course been cordoned off.

When I went searching through ATS to see if there was any new information on this topic, I was aghast to find that not only had no one added new information on the matter, but worse, that there was not even a glimmer of recognition that the event had ever occured. Unless the search function has been deliberately avoiding showing results for it, I can only conclude that no one wanted to contribute on that subject. I do not wish to myself, because I have no special insights into this subject which might shed more light upon them, and simply reporting what other people are reporting is a pretty lame idea for a thread.

However, what I would like to do is to draw the attention of anyone who is in the area, or capable of accessing more recent news about this outbreak, and have them add to this thread.

Of course, if it turns out that ATS search was just messing with me, and that there are uncountable threads and posts on the issue, then feel free to absolutely ignore this post, and everything that came with it.




posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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It's great you started a thread, but there's a bit of info missing from it.

The deaths have been caused by the Hantavirus....found in dropping from rodents (such as mice). Four people got it while at the park recently, two of them died. While it is not unheard of, I think that many infections in one area is rare. According to the following article, only 587 have gotten it since 1993....across 34 states. The scary part is it's 36% death rate (50% so far in the park cases)

In spite of this outbreak, the park expects to be full this weekend.

Yosemite warns visitors about hantavirus



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Yosemite Hanta Virus:




Up to 10,000 campers at Yosemite National Park may have been exposed to a deadly rodent-borne illness. Kent Sepkowitz on how Hanta is spread—and why a big outbreak is unlikely.



Alarmingly, the disease has no specific treatment. There is no known effective antiviral drug, no vaccine, and no preventative medication. Rather, patients with the disease are given “supportive care,” including intravenous fluids, blood products as needed, and oxygen, and are managed according to whatever symptoms they may develop. The only good news about the disease is that, unlike so many other viruses ranging from influenza to Ebola, this one is not contagious person-to-person. Only the unlucky soul directly exposed to the virus at its environmental source itself becomes ill.

Read more...

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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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It was briefly mentioned on euronews (streamingservice on blu-ray player) just yesterday. I too was surprised I saw it there first. ATS is normally the first to break such events, especially when in the US.

Here's the briefing I got... they sure don't make a fuss.

Euronews - Deadly virus outbrake at Yosmite National park.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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I saw it yesterday on the news ticker.

America doesnt want the world to know that they have the Black Death.


edit- check this out-


Weaponization Korean hemorrhagic fever (Hantavirus) was one of three hemorrhagic fevers and one of more than a dozen agents that the United States researched as potential biological weapons before suspending its biological weapons program.

en.wikipedia.org...

hmm

edit on 3-9-2012 by freemarketsocialist because: (no reason given)


However, infection via human-to-human contact has since been proven in Hantavirus outbreaks in Argentina



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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by freemarketsocialist
I saw it yesterday on the news ticker.

America doesnt want the world to know that they have the Black Death.


Not to be a downer here and im sure you know but the "Black Death" was beubonic plague.....

not the same as Hantavirus........

Theres also been news that there might have been some more outbreaks in New Mexico and possibly yellowstone as well, these were briefly mentioned, and now I cant find ANYTHING on them anywhere.......

Its strange how the media will hop up stories and coverage of things like Swine Flu, but keep mum on truly deadly viruses and infections such as these



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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There is a thread here from last month, and it was covered in the danish tv news and news paper.
If it reaches Denmark, you can be sure there is no cover up


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also this, but i am not sure it's connected to the Yosemite.

hisz.rsoe.hu...
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by freemarketsocialist
I saw it yesterday on the news ticker.

America doesnt want the world to know that they have the Black Death.


Not to be a downer here and im sure you know but the "Black Death" was beubonic plague.....

not the same as Hantavirus........

Theres also been news that there might have been some more outbreaks in New Mexico and possibly yellowstone as well, these were briefly mentioned, and now I cant find ANYTHING on them anywhere.......

Its strange how the media will hop up stories and coverage of things like Swine Flu, but keep mum on truly deadly viruses and infections such as these


They hype up the less threatening ones so everyone will panic and take their deadly vaccines, then hide the actually deadly ones so no one knows to take precautions, and they can watch the population go down....

well, just a theory.....



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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I also noticed this..there are several Virus issues going on all over the US..not much coverage on the issue..I think its an End of Times issue..just starting..some will see the signs..others will just ignore



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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I happen to live in the High Sierra's. This outbreak is not going unnoticed.

10,000 people is a LOT to have exposure because no one LIVES in Yosemite. You visit and leave.

The bigger question that is not being asked or answered is it contagious after exposure?

So we have 10,000 people exposed that can give this virus to others? Or not?


Where else has this virus been detected? I read there is no treatment which doesn't sound good.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 02:23 AM
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Cheers for your information people. I am aware that there was information missing from my initial post (which may have something to do with mild fatigue due to late nights and early mornings, but I digress...) however, my intent was to stimulate discussion from the ground up so to speak. Admittedly, I probably should have produced some talking points.

My main concern is not that the issue has not been covered to some degree in the mainstream media, because by all accounts it has. But what does somewhat suprise me is that as far as I am aware this is the only thread discussing that particular issue here on ATS.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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I'm in southern Colorado. We're warned about hantavirus as well as bubonic plague. We all take precautions and in my area very few, if any, get infected.

I think the problem is the mouse population has exploded. I know it has in my neck of the woods. Typically we get lots of snow in March/April but this year we got heat instead.

I've never seen so many mice running around during the day ever. Thankfully my cats keep them away from the house but it's really odd to see so many out and about.

People are at risk anywhere there's mouse droppings. I wouldn't stay in a cabin/house that's been empty for more than a week. Even outdoors we've got to be careful not to stir up nests.

I wonder if Yosemite has seen an increase in numbers too? I thought it was just us. We've always had mice but never like this.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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I would have thought that the local small rodent population in Yosemite is probably rather extensive. The fact that there are cabins (empty for some of the year), and a plentiful supply of bushes, trees, and other fruit or nut dropping plants in close proximity to one another, probably provides a utopian existance for the little critters, aside of course from the possible presence of predators, such as birds of prey, snakes, and quadrupedal hunters.

Even when the cabins are inhabited, the chances are that any dropped foodstuffs provide additional nutrition for any rodent population that might be present. I can see how this virus, and its carriers might easily come into contact with humans, when your statements are taken into account. If the normal population of rodents is of a size where they are not usually a problem to the people who visit the cabins, then the population explosion may have forced the extra capacity of rodents to take up residence in or around the cabins, where they might have normally chosen a location which would put them further away from humans, and any canine companions that might accompany them.

Back to my original point however. Why do you think this thread was the first to mention the outbreak at Yosemite? I waited quite a while for someone closer to the incident to make a thread on it, and was very suprised when I found that no one else thought it prudent to make a thread before this.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 05:57 AM
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I believe one of the other posters provided information which expressly stated that the disease cannot be spread from human to human, so that takes care of the secondary infection risk. But because so many people visit the park, I am suprised that more efforts have not been made to decontaminate the area in a more thorough and effective manner.

Although the areas natural beauty is its major selling point as a tourist destination, it may be the rugged and spartan situation of the cabins, and thier simple construction which makes keeping it clear of infection difficult. As traditional and quaint as they may be, perhaps it is time for the cabins to be walled off, modernised, created with keeping such things at a fair distance in mind.
edit on 7-9-2012 by TrueBrit because: Correcting the entire content of the post, to account for information I had missed before posting it. Sorry!



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 06:35 AM
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There was a thread on Aug 28, 2012 about the outbreak.

Yosemite officials: 1,700 past visitors risk hantavirus

Looks like it didn't get much attention, only a one pager.

I can remember reading about Hantavirus in the book The Coming Plauge. It wasn't recognized by modern medicine until the early 90's. It is in the Navajo traditions.


Interestingly, while HPS was not known to the epidemiologic and medical communities, there is evidence that it was recognized elsewhere. The Navajo Indians, a number of whom contracted HPS during the 1993 outbreak, recognize a similar disease in their medical traditions, and actually associate its occurrence with mice. As strikingly, Navajo medical beliefs concur with public health recommendations for preventing the disease.

cdc.gov

I hope they can get this under control quickly and that those infected come through ok.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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I was wondering about that too- someone sent my husband an email about it and I wondered why it hadn't been mentioned on the news and only one thread started here (that nobody seemed to notice).

But I personally find it hard to focus on. My mother died of asthma in Yosemite. Picturing these breathing problems and people dying in association with Yosemite (where I spent much of my childhood) is disturbing to me, and makes me click out pretty fast.

But that cannot be the case with everyone! I hope that people who might have been infected hear about it and get tested and all.......



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 06:59 AM
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Well, damn. I think perhaps ATS search needs some Altoids or something, or maybe some No Doz. Certainly must have been asleep on the job when I searched for the subject!



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by TrueBrit
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Well, damn. I think perhaps ATS search needs some Altoids or something, or maybe some No Doz. Certainly must have been asleep on the job when I searched for the subject!

Sometimes I think the search button is the ATS classroom prankster, keeps a straight face and tells you something isn't there all the while hiding it behind their back!

You are right about it not receiving much attention. When the Ebola outbreak happened in Africa, it had loads of threads. I know Ebola is one scary sucker, but so is Hantavirus. And with this outbreaks location and timing it makes it especially scary. They have now widened the risk of infection for visitors from June - August this year, 10K+ people at risk! The lastest person to be diagnosed had not even stayed in one of the "cabins" and was backpacking along a trail. latimes.com

Since the park does receive international visitors, this could be a global concern. (not of spreading, just reported cases from people that traveled there)



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Morningglory
I'm in southern Colorado. We're warned about hantavirus as well as bubonic plague. We all take precautions and in my area very few, if any, get infected.

I think the problem is the mouse population has exploded. I know it has in my neck of the woods. Typically we get lots of snow in March/April but this year we got heat instead.

I've never seen so many mice running around during the day ever. Thankfully my cats keep them away from the house but it's really odd to see so many out and about.

People are at risk anywhere there's mouse droppings. I wouldn't stay in a cabin/house that's been empty for more than a week. Even outdoors we've got to be careful not to stir up nests.

I wonder if Yosemite has seen an increase in numbers too? I thought it was just us. We've always had mice but never like this.


This is spot on. This is not the first epidemic of hantavirus in that area, not by a long shot. It's directly related to exploding mouse populations.

Have you noticed a decrease in the number of cats around?

Mouse populations explode when the winter is mild and there's a lot of rain in the summer. When that happens, mice are more likely to enter homes where people are exposed to their urine and feces, and other animals that would normally hunt them, like cats and dogs, are directly infected. If their normal predators start dying off, the population explodes even further.

ETA: See also here.

www.cdc.gov...
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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I've seen more coverage on the hantivirus outbreak this year, which is very little, than the bubonic plague in Colorado.

Wednesday, 29 August, 2012



In 2006, Colorado had four cases of plague, all in La Plata County, Joe Fowler, a disease-control nurse with the San Juan Basin Health Department said.

From the Sunday, 02 September, 2012 update.


A 7-year-old girl from Pagosa Springs is the first confirmed case of bubonic plague in Colorado since 2006. Sierra Jane Downing is in stable condition in the pediatric care




In recent decades, the average number of cases of bubonic plague annually nationwide is seven, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports.



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