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The Truth about Roswell and Aliens: an alternative perspective

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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Ok I watched the video and i thought wow an alternate veiw and wow was i wrong.This is just another aleins are demons thread.Why would demons waste there time pretending to be aliens?To me its a waste of time.I would sooner infiltrate the various religions and stir up trouble that way or go the political route if i were a dem

The universe is very old so there is a possibility that life exists else where.Is it intelegent or not is up for debate.Now with our understanding of the universe and laws of physics and quantum physic at out current level all we have are theories for FTL drives but who knows in the future the theories might become fact.




posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Prove to me the earth is "millions of years" as you claim.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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I knew someone who worked for NASA during this time.

They told me what really happened. Take this however you want to.

It wasn't a "weather balloon" but a "balloon" used to monitor nuclear testing in the atmosphere so they could see if the Soviets were doing anything. At the time, they couldn't let that get out.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Gary has been speaking on the creation/evolution issue since 1990. With a background in management and marketing, in 2002, he was invited to join the ministry full-time in Brisbane and eventually became its Head of Ministry

creation.com...

So, management and marketing...no science, no physics.
It goes on to say he “undertook specialist research” and is now a “Leading Christian authority in this area.”
What kind of research? Who is he to say what science can and cannot do in the future?
All he is doing is applying his religious beliefs to something that scares him. It’s part of his theology that the universe is 6,000 years old and there is no life except on earth. So, of course there can be no aliens in his world view, so he replaces them with biblical demons.
As DaTroof said replacing one unsubstantiated faith-based belief system with another....

The Universe is 14.6 billion years old.
map.gsfc.nasa.gov...
www.astro.ucla.edu...
The earth is 4.54 billion years old.
www.talkorigins.org...

You don’t have to believe science. You are free to ignore the evidence.

Is there something out there? More than likely.
Has it been here? Couldn’t say.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by inverslyproportional
 


Prove to me the earth is "millions of years" as you claim.


The Earth is not millions of years old , its around 4.6 billion years old
Radiometric Dating

Finally, I would like to raise the issue of motive in these questions of the age of the earth. Scientists have no reason to claim an age of the earth of 4.5 billion years except for the results of decades of research and thousands of tests by independent researchers indicating the effectiveness of radiometric dating and that 4.5 billion years is the correct age of the earth.

Creationists, on the other hand , have an extreme interest in proving the age of the earth to be 6 - 10 thousand years - it is required by their fundamentalist (literal) Biblical theology. To them, the earth must have been created in six literal days six thousand years ago.

Any other possibility is a violation of their deeply held religious beliefs. In fact, all of the creation "science" organizations require members to adhere to clearly religious "creeds" that require them to accept the authority of the Bible in all matters. While this may be good religion, it is very, very bad science!Can we really trust such people to make a fair and unbiased attempt to determine the true age of the earth? We certainly haven't seen any evidence of it so far.



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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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You have done no research at all.



Why would demons waste there time pretending to be aliens?


Because its got most atheists and some Christians into a spiritual deception. By posing as aliens here to save humanity they get you to believe they created life, that they are our savours, that we should worship them and not God, and that they have all the answers to the questions in life. By believing in aliens you also have to automatically believe in evolution, which is another lie touted as being scientific. It makes perfect sense.

You have not proven that the universe is very old, not all scientists believe this to be the case. You have a blind faith that the earth is old, what if your wrong?



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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You did not watch the video, this is exactly what the guy mentions.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Everyone has a world view, evolution is not science, the government can put on there websites that the earth is billions of years old, that doesn't make it a fact. There are many scientists who believe in a young earth, I propose to you that the government has an agenda and they are pre-conditioning society to blindly accept evolution as science. Top leading atheists such as Richard Dawkins are now coming to the realization that the universe was intelligently designed, they just replace almighty God with "aliens" which are really fallen angels in disguise.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Everyone has a world view, evolution is not science, the government can put on there websites that the earth is billions of years old, that doesn't make it a fact. There are many scientists who believe in a young earth, I propose to you that the government has an agenda and they are pre-conditioning society to blindly accept evolution as science. Top leading atheists such as Richard Dawkins are now coming to the realization that the universe was intelligently designed, they just replace almighty God with "aliens" which are really fallen angels in disguise.


I'll probably kick myself later for asking, but what's the agenda?



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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So, Hinduism can trace it's traditions and beliefs back some 8000 years with hard physically verifiable archaeological evidence, with stories relating to events that happened some 16,000 years ago.

Hinduism, it would thus seem, is older than the planet?

Can there be a rule where threads like these get moved over into the Religion and Philosophy section regardless their mention/hijacking of events and stories relating to the UFO phenomenon?



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by TheLieWeLive



Reason: You cannot defy the laws of physics. Even if aliens had 'advanced technology' it would still be physically impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. Now you might turn to science fiction in order to get round that problem, but that's all it is, science fiction. What place does that have in reality? The fact is there are certain constraints in the universe that cannot be broken materialistically.


It's not possible with our current knowledge but you can't say that it's physically impossible. A hundred years ago many things we do today where impossible through our understanding of physics and science, but not anymore. Take a computer back just a hundred years and see how fast you are considered an abomination to man and get stoned to death.

God is an alien. Angels are also alien and yes, so are demons. They aren't from here originally which makes them alien to us. People can argue inner-dimensional or outer-dimensional all they want. It's all still alien.


A nice comment and well thought out. If a electron can with quantom leap dissapear and appear at another place in 3D reality then why would not more knowledgable beings be able to do it. I think Op is right that the unknow god for most and known personaly by fewer can protect someone from outside influence. Whatever name you use does not matter but who you are calling. But I do not think everything unknown is demonic. I think many people fear angels or just out of place spirits because the do not understand what they are meeting. They probably left because the notice that they are scaring us and do not want to do that. I have myself been afraid off paranormal effects and was pushing it down and not listening to my spirit was telling me. It was very ignorant of me and I pushed away help that I could have gotten earlier and not had to suffer as much as I did.

The op:s post is fearbased on the unknown and egobased duality driven that he knows what is going on, since his mind tells him thru faith what is going on. I do not really understand how faith can be so dualitydriven in some and so nondualitydriven in others. It is like faith is pushing us to either hate for unknown extreme or love for all extreme for the people who have faith and not a known personal relationship with the unknown.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by DaTroof

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Christianity is the only faith that provides substantiated evidence


Oh, OK. I'll be sure to let the Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Sikh and everyone else know.


Frankly from my viewpoint Sikh are more in tune with telling the reality of what god is without any possibility to missunderstand it. The Old testament and Jesus only point in the right direction and are hidding it in what some of the Jews and Christians are misstakes in the bibe
, since the people are not ready to cope with that nature of what god really is. You have to lose small mind and ego to understand the bible.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Changed my mind. Delete it.
edit on 3-9-2012 by apushforenlightment because: Bah not needed. Should stop playing with duality and just be.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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actually i have done a little research into abductions and i think most are caused by electromagnetic fields interacting with the brain causing the brain to misfire,sleep paralasis.Hence no real abduction just in our minds.Having said all of that there might be a extremely small percentage of real abductions.

now as for proof as to how old the universe is or how old the earth is you aren't going to believe me anyway.So why give any.I could google and give you various websites about the age of the earth and universe but you will dismiss it because you go thou life with blinders on.Me i go thou life with out blinders and keep a open mind.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Project Mogul is what the government says is true. Are you going to trust the people in the government or are you going to trust the one formal response of the overall government 'entiity.' What makes you want to trust the overall government 'entiity' rather than the individuals inside of the government? In this case the individuals inside the government are saying something different than the formal government response so overall it is just a let down - somebody is lying and people are so ignorant that they trust a government entity over the individuals inside of the government itself.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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Oh here we go again!


Please tell me how you know that its impossible for
other beings to come here because of the distance.
There are already theories out there that do not rule
out other ways of getting about the universe. Bending
space time, and yes, even worm holes.

You think us, the primitive race we are, know everything
about what is possible when it comes to space travel? LOL

Imagine a race that has a million years head start.

As for your religon, where is the proof your GOD is real?
Thats right, there isn't any!




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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 


So, Hinduism can trace it's traditions and beliefs back some 8000 years with hard physically verifiable archaeological evidence, with stories relating to events that happened some 16,000 years ago.

Hinduism, it would thus seem, is older than the planet?

Can there be a rule where threads like these get moved over into the Religion and Philosophy section regardless their mention/hijacking of events and stories relating to the UFO phenomenon?



Pulease. With sugar sprinkles on top.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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ok,i gotta step in after tat comment.
you saywe have never in the past broke the laws of physics.
what about your god then?! walking on water,water to wine,virgin birth,etc....
yes these may be 'god like miracles', but apparently 'someone' cane break the laws of physics!!!!
so,there is a way!!!



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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I thought theoretical physics found a way to travel long distances by finding folds in the fabric of space/time and pretty much saying wormholes could be used to pretty much jump across anything.

And I hate to be a jerk- but "god" (I am no longer a believer. Blame the church.) has certain time travel/ wormhole based powers as well. The bible is rife with examples. Now, if demons have the same powers god has... well, that's a sticky mess, aint it? A deity should have restricted evil beings from having the basic abilities: appear/ disappear at will, superior speed, ability to be anywhere instantly, invisibility, intangibility, flight, ability to control people...

This of course, opens up a diff can of worms.



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