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Originally posted by Carseller4
If we don't hold politicians accountable, things will never get better.
Obama has the leadership skills of a Community Organizer and it shows.
I can see not pulling the trigger for Romney, but voting for Obama again? That is ignorant, try denying it.
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by HamrHeed
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by HamrHeed
What a load of crap.. Obama has no control over that anyways. Get a grip please, your country is dying
Congratulations, you did everything but answer the question presented in the OP. If i didn't know better, I'd say you have difficulty either understanding and/or following simple instructions.
If you wish to speak for kaploink, I suggest you ask permission.
Don't act like I'm an asshole for noticing that Obama didn't deliver anything really, except racial divisions.
To answer the OP: If I were an american during that last election, i would have picked up on the vibes that he gives off/ Yes his speeches were convincing, moreso at the beginning,,
But thats besides the point. You guys claimed bush a nazi, then vote in obama who continued everything, every rotten policy you pinned to bushes forehead.
What a joke
In other words, we can safely assume that the answer wound be a "no" on a vote for him this time.
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
After the Republicans gave us Iraq, Afghanistan, 911, deregulation of the markets and the subsequent economic meltdown, TARP and "too big to fail" bailouts to the guilty bankers, not to mention the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretapping, and election fraud, and now, rampant voter-suppression in swing states. I vowed never - EVER - to vote Republican again.
Obama signed NDAA - but it was Republicans who WROTE the NDAA. Obama failed to close GITMO - but it was Republicans who refused to back closing it and BLOCKED Obama's January 2009 executive order to close it. Obama shares in stimulus and bailout spending blame.
I did not vote for Obama in 2008. I will consider voting for him 2012.
We can't "write in" a vote for Ron Paul, since no state now allows write-in votes (the GOP removed write-in options for the last remaining state to allow it, NV, just recently, all part of their grand voter suppression agenda). After the cheating by the GOP against Ron Paul during the primaries, that party is utterly dead to me.
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
After the Republicans gave us Iraq, Afghanistan, 911, deregulation of the markets and the subsequent economic meltdown, TARP and "too big to fail" bailouts to the guilty bankers, not to mention the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretapping, and election fraud, and now, rampant voter-suppression in swing states. I vowed never - EVER - to vote Republican again.
Obama signed NDAA - but it was Republicans who WROTE the NDAA. Obama failed to close GITMO - but it was Republicans who refused to back closing it and BLOCKED Obama's January 2009 executive order to close it. Obama shares in stimulus and bailout spending blame.
I did not vote for Obama in 2008. I will consider voting for him 2012.
We can't "write in" a vote for Ron Paul, since no state now allows write-in votes (the GOP removed write-in options for the last remaining state to allow it, NV, just recently, all part of their grand voter suppression agenda). After the cheating by the GOP against Ron Paul during the primaries, that party is utterly dead to me.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You didn't ask me ... but I'll answer anyways ... I"m voting Gary Johnson this time.
He isn't qualified .. but it's my protest vote.
Oh .. and to the previous poster ... Obama is not 'less likely' to get into a war.
He's bombed more countries than Bush43. He's just like the others ... no hope/no change.
Originally posted by HamrHeed
If you wish to speak for kaploink, I suggest you ask permission.
Don't act like I'm an asshole for noticing that Obama didn't deliver anything really, except racial divisions.
To answer the OP: If I were an american during that last election, i would have picked up on the vibes that he gives off/ Yes his speeches were convincing, moreso at the beginning,,
But thats besides the point. You guys claimed bush a nazi, then vote in obama who continued everything, every rotten policy you pinned to bushes forehead.
What a joke
Originally posted by illuminnaughty
It really dosnt matter who we vote for. They are all controlled puppets. Left right or what ever. Its all the same choice. One puppet sets it up, for the next puppet to implement it.
Obama the Nobel peace prize winner. On that strength alone he was guarentee`d to win, as people had more than their fair share of war and were sick of it. What has he done? All he did was to bail out the system with our money and keep it running for a while longer. A few cosmetic changes here and there. But nothing has really changed.
As a brit I realise that we are no better off. Labour liberal or tory, its all the same gang. I guess Americans going on about how they have the constitution. Is the same as us brits saying we have the magna carta. Which has been repealed and is now a useless document. Same as that god dammed scrap of paper, that bush was talking about.
If we let things continue, then we are all well an truely screwed.
Whats the answer? hmm What about just not voting at all? Vote for no one. How would they govern us then? If we dont elect them, then they have no power over us?
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
After the Republicans gave us Iraq, Afghanistan, 911, deregulation of the markets and the subsequent economic meltdown, TARP and "too big to fail" bailouts to the guilty bankers, not to mention the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretapping, and election fraud, and now, rampant voter-suppression in swing states. I vowed never - EVER - to vote Republican again.
Obama signed NDAA - but it was Republicans who WROTE the NDAA. Obama failed to close GITMO - but it was Republicans who refused to back closing it and BLOCKED Obama's January 2009 executive order to close it. Obama shares in stimulus and bailout spending blame.
I did not vote for Obama in 2008. I will consider voting for him 2012.
We can't "write in" a vote for Ron Paul, since no state now allows write-in votes (the GOP removed write-in options for the last remaining state to allow it, NV, just recently, all part of their grand voter suppression agenda). After the cheating by the GOP against Ron Paul during the primaries, that party is utterly dead to me.
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by HamrHeed
If you wish to speak for kaploink, I suggest you ask permission.
Don't act like I'm an asshole for noticing that Obama didn't deliver anything really, except racial divisions.
To answer the OP: If I were an american during that last election, i would have picked up on the vibes that he gives off/ Yes his speeches were convincing, moreso at the beginning,,
But thats besides the point. You guys claimed bush a nazi, then vote in obama who continued everything, every rotten policy you pinned to bushes forehead.
What a joke
Wasn't speaking for Kaploink, I was speaking for myself and as far as I know, there are no rules here on ATS limiting one's post to responses directed specifically at themselves. In other words, I don't need to ask permission.
Personally, I never once accused Bush of being a Nazi. However, I will contend to my dying breath that he is indeed a war criminal of the highest order for taking this nation to war based on fabricated lies, killing tens of thousands in the process.
Furthermore, while I'll agree that President Obama has continued "some" of the rotten Bush policies, for reasons unbeknownst to me, it's a far stretch of the truth for you to state that he has continued "every rotten policy pinned to Bush's forehead." While I would very much like to see the Patriot Act repealed, Gitmo closed and a thorough investigation and prosecution of those responsible for taking us to war with Iraq, to say that Obama is the same as Bush is just flat out false.
President Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Act of 2009, eliminated "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, removed the vast majority of our troops from Iraq, enacted the Affordable Care Act which will expand access to medical care and provide subsidies for people who can't afford it and fix the "pre-existing condition" travesty within the health insurance industry. He created "The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau," appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court and has attempted to re-regulate the financial sector with the creation of the Dodd-Frank bill, which I admit is too weak but that's because of republican obstructionism during the process. He got help for people who's health was injured during the clean-up after the 9-11 attacks, invested in clean energy and quit defending DOMA in the courts. I could go on, but I won't. Now, how many of these accomplishments qualify as "rotten policies" pinned to Bush's forehead?
Originally posted by HamrHeed
Alright, before I read more, I'm assuming you want bush and all the dems who voted in favor of the bombing of iraq?
I have been around the block and I know you're lying.
Mccain and Palin was a ticket put together by a political party that wanted to lose.
All it took was obama whispering sweet nothings in your ear. Lol so pathetic
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by HamrHeed
Alright, before I read more, I'm assuming you want bush and all the dems who voted in favor of the bombing of iraq?
I have been around the block and I know you're lying.
Mccain and Palin was a ticket put together by a political party that wanted to lose.
All it took was obama whispering sweet nothings in your ear. Lol so pathetic
The Dems who voted to authorize Bush to use the threat of force did so after being fed a bunch of manufactured lies about Iraq's involvement in the 9-11 attacks and possession of weapons of mass destruction. So, no I wouldn't be in favor of prosecuting them, only those responsible for creating the lies.