Originally posted by RELDDIR
Here are the stats:
Unemployment: 7.8% then, 8.3% now
Median income: $54,983 then, $50,964 now
Gas prices: $1.85 per gallon then, $3.78 now
National debt: $10.6 trillion then, $15.9 trillion now
Are Americans better off? Obama aides won't say
By BEN FELLER and DAVID ESPO | Associated Press
These are such childish and misleading numbers. Your numbers likely reflect the end of 2008. No president takes office until the next year and then
nothing he does has ANY effect for quite a few months. This is why all educated and non-partisan groups use a metric that, for numbers sake, starts in
near the middle of the new president's first term. They do this no matter the party of the president. Only the liars and partisans so blatantly
mislead like this...and only the ignorant believe them. You insult readers and your fellow Americans when you post lies like this.
How about we try a few facts. Here's a good chart. Notice an undeniable trend? Looks to me like a reversal of disaster under Bush. Keep on scrolling
How about we look at gas prices. You cherry-picked a date. Every number cruncher will tell you the ONLY reason to do that is to mislead the reader.
The ONLY way to accurate present this is statistical trend over time. Like this:
Notice how high they went during Bush's term? That said, saying gasoline prices are the fault of the president is ridiculous and NO person of
integrity uses this metric. Gas prices are driven today by speculation, you know, one of those unregulated games on the commodities market -- or as
the Right likes to call these sorts of things: "financial innovations."
Now let's continue this lie countering exercise by looking at the debt and the source of it. This is the picture that should help the fact
Clearly it was Bush's gross fiscal delinquency that exploded the debt and forms the largest bulk of its continued explosion.
Now let's tackle your last lie by omission. Nice try once again taking a snapshot of 2 dates. That's about as honest as saying Hitler did not kill 6
million Jews by pulling a number of dead from a date from 1938 as evidence. Once again, let's look at the facts HONESTLY, without your BS sophomoric
manipulation. This is from the U.S. Census Bureau:
An honest person will note median household income has been under great pressure since the late 1990s, and the time Glass-Steagall was reversed and
the Great American Rape began. To assign that to Obama is the most disingenuous of fact frauds.
In closing, the very best quote to rebuke the "Are you better off?" little game the Right wants to play is from Chris Matthews the other day:
""To leave this country in hell and now claim it isn't heaven."
Go pound sand. I SOOO beyond sick of the abject, blatant, insincere, disingenuous, insulting and manipulative lies on the Right this cycle. You freaks
would embarrass Goebbels.
Rail all you want back about me some sort of liberal Obama lover. That, of course, is a lie. What I am is an honest American who refuses to be
insulted or played by a bunch of science denying, pathelogical liars on today's Right. For you people under 30, there was a time when this crap did
not happen, not to this scale and not with such blatancy and not so disproportional from one side. And these people are NOT Republicans, they are
Christo-fascists -- the bastion of the most ignorant Americans alive -- who have usurped what once was a viable party.
Even as recent as the mid-90s when Gingrich was the Speaker under a GOP House and a Democratic president the parties were pretty darned partisan. But
even then, they were able to work together on substantial matters like Welfare reform, vs. a literal total refusal by today's Right to engage on
ANYTHING. And back then, partisan as it was, evidenced by the GOP shutting down the government, the then GOP would NEVER had pulled the stunt this
crew did in summer 2011 when they held the Nation's credit worthiness hostage by refusing to increase the debt ceiling even though they'd raised it
repeatedly as a simple matter of course many, many times under Bush. In other words, the ONLY reason they did not had zero to do with principle, zero
to do with conviction and 100% everything to do with Obama being in office.
edit on 3-9-2012 by pajoly because: arghh