Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?

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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Bush Unemployment rate January 2001 4.2%
Bush Unemployment rate January 2009 7.8%

An Increase of 86% under Bush

Obama Unemployment rate Feb 2009 8.3%
Obama Unemployment rate now 2012...8.3%

An increase of 0%


Average yearly Bush gas price 2001 $1.43
Average yearly Bush gas price 2008 $3.26

An increase of 128% Under Bush.

Average yearly Obama gas price 2009 ................$2.35
Average yearly Obama gas price so far 2012........$3.83

An increase of 68% Under Obama.




posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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It's convenient to manipulate numbers in ones favor, only when it is necessary to win that arguement.

On Sunday, All 4 major networks asked the same question to all of Obama's Top Aides. ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN 4 YEARS AGO? NONE OF HIS AIDES ANSWERED THAT QUESTION WITH A "YES."

Originally posted by Nomadmonkey



Bush Unemployment rate January 2001 4.2%
Bush Unemployment rate January 2009 7.8%

An Increase of 86% under Bush

Obama Unemployment rate Feb 2009 8.3%
Obama Unemployment rate now 2012...8.3%

An increase of 0%


Average yearly Bush gas price 2001 $1.43
Average yearly Bush gas price 2008 $3.26

An increase of 128% Under Bush.

Average yearly Obama gas price 2009 ................$2.35
Average yearly Obama gas price so far 2012........$3.83

An increase of 68% Under Obama.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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OMG .. you are funny. You answered in the same manner that Axlerod and the rest of the Obama surrogates did. THEY DID NOT ANSWER. And neither did you. Just number manipulations and a total avoiding of simply answering the question ..... Are you better off now than you were four years ago??

It's very simple. Why can't you answer yes or no??



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Yes. I have the best paying job of my life after spending the 00's looking for any kid of work and I pay less in t axes.

There is far less threat of terrorism as well. I spent the last decade being warned about the alert color on a daily basis.
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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and the speaker of the house bears responsibility as well

including all members of congress actually

oh, and bankers

oh and idiots who took out mortgages they couldn't afford

and corporations downsizing for profit

oh, pretty much all of us

we don't have a prayer of getting out of this as long as we all sit around on our asses wiating for the executive branch of the federal gov't to waive a magic wand and make it all better



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Why does honest factual numbers scare you guy so much? Op was implying that Gas was somehow cheap under Bush
And that Unemployment did not go up 86% under the great leadership of GWB. Below is a quote from the OP article. I think Axelrod did a good job answering the question, and is smart enough not to overlook things like FACTS.





Axelrod, on Fox, said, "I can say that we're in a better position than we were four years ago in our economy in the sense that when this president took office, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. The quarter before he took office was the worst quarter that this country has had economically since the Great Depression



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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What was the average price of gas under Bush's time in office? What was the average price of gass under Obama's time in office? What about inflation? Give me FACTS, not numbers manipulation. Since you used February 2009 as a refrence date, can we use that as a starting point in a Reagan vs. Bush 43 vs Obama economic recovery analysis? Do you dare?

Originally posted by Nomadmonkey
reply to post by FlyersFan
 


Why does honest factual numbers scare you guy so much? Op was implying that Gas was somehow cheap under Bush
And that Unemployment did not go up 86% under the great leadership of GWB. Below is a quote from the OP article. I think Axelrod did a good job answering the question, and is smart enough not to overlook things like FACTS.





Axelrod, on Fox, said, "I can say that we're in a better position than we were four years ago in our economy in the sense that when this president took office, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. The quarter before he took office was the worst quarter that this country has had economically since the Great Depression
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Food, expenses, gas, taxes etc prices have skyrocketed ......

Job is the same, 3% raise which is 3 years behind (thanks union and state) cannot keep up with what is going on...

not only have college prices skyrocketed, Obama's new laws put parent's on the line for the loans not the students.....how does that help anyone?

Now We have more to worry about with retirement 4 years away instead of less...have to sell the family home just to be able to continue on.

The middle class is NOT doing better.....no way...we are sunk.
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?


Sure!

Just as long as;
You're not on Obama's kill list.
Not a target fo domestic drones.
Not under penalty of ACA.
Not on a no-fly list.
Not geting groped by TSA.
Not a target of DHS.
or
Not an American.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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No thanks. I have seen your "efficient" use of facts already. And I love that other thread you started, about how Democrats have killed 65 times more soldiers in wars then the Republicans. I can't argue with honest and truthful people such as you.




posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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I am better off now then I was 4 years ago, I got a job that has plenty potential for promotions, but it wasn't because of Obama. It's good to have friends that actually care
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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sheep distraction thread



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
Here are the stats:

Unemployment: 7.8% then, 8.3% now
Median income: $54,983 then, $50,964 now
Gas prices: $1.85 per gallon then, $3.78 now
National debt: $10.6 trillion then, $15.9 trillion now

Are Americans better off? Obama aides won't say
By BEN FELLER and DAVID ESPO | Associated Press
news.yahoo.com...


Where have I heard that before?

Oh, that’s right, I wrote it!


You can make out the royalty checks to SEABAG!


By the way, I don't think Seabag is an acceptable source here in ATS!
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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
What was the average price of gas under Bush's time in office? What was the average price of gass under Obama's time in office?


How much did it go up under Bush?
How much under Obama?



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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lol, my thread was created a day earlier than you!

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by RELDDIR
Here are the stats:

Unemployment: 7.8% then, 8.3% now
Median income: $54,983 then, $50,964 now
Gas prices: $1.85 per gallon then, $3.78 now
National debt: $10.6 trillion then, $15.9 trillion now

Are Americans better off? Obama aides won't say
By BEN FELLER and DAVID ESPO | Associated Press
news.yahoo.com...


Where have I heard that before?

Oh, that’s right, I wrote it!


You can make out the royalty checks to SEABAG!


By the way, I don't think Seabag is an acceptable source here in ATS!
edit on 3-9-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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No. And now we await the heavy hand of Obamacare tax soon to befall the entire American populace. That's right, and you either buy it or pay for it either way.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by RELDDIR
 



Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?


Sure!

Just as long as;
You're not on Obama's kill list.
Not a target fo domestic drones.
Not under penalty of ACA.
Not on a no-fly list.
Not geting groped by TSA.
Not a target of DHS.


I do not know anyone that has those problems.
What have you done so wrong?
Who are the good guys being targeted by domestic drones?
Who are the innocent people on the kill list?



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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lol, my thread was created a day earlier than you!


Whoops! My Bad!!


I guess we got our stats from the same source!

Here’s my source…glad I saved the picture!





posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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No worries man. We're all for the same cause.



posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Fromabove
No. And now we await the heavy hand of Obamacare tax soon to befall the entire American populace. That's right, and you either buy it or pay for it either way.


What the hell are you talking about?
I already have health insurance.
What am I going to be forced to "buy?"





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