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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 09:26 AM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by choos
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Oh please, give me a break, you are acting like a cheerleader screaming >>Give me a "G" - give me an "I" - give me a "B" - give me a "B" - give me an "O" - give me a "R" - give me an "I" - give me an "U" - give me a "M"<<

nope

www.abovetopsecret.com... (reply posted on 31-8-2012 @ 11:12 PM by choos)

Oh yes you do!

do you believe that solar radiation creates gravity?

If it turns out to be true, so in case it turns out to be true then i will of course believe it's true.

do you believe ONLY the earths moon is tidally locked to its respective planet?

NASA need to built a spacecraft that is able to travel very close to each moon in this solar system to finally determine how many moons that are actually tidally locked to their planet and how many moons are not tidally locked to their planet. Who knows, it's possible NASA will built a spacecraft that is able to do so in the future, so untill then i can't answer that question yet. I tell you what, why don't you ask NASA to built that kind of spacecraft?

do you believe that california was reduced to islands in 2004?

Of course i don't believe California was reduced into small islands in 2004, California is still there, it didn't turn into islands, yet.

How about you, do you believe California was reduced to islands in 2004?
Like this native american indian
said >>We were told we would see America come and go<<, so question is, if this is true, then when will this happen? Good question... www.public.asu.edu...
Through the memories and experiences of a man named Nainoa, Wesselman comes to know this future world in which the high tech modern Western civilization as we know it has disappeared and the survivors of humanity have reverted to hunter-gather and simple agricultural lifestyle.

The book called "Spirit Walker: Messages from the future" by Hank Wesselman is a book that describe a dude from the real world who claim to have experienced the future were some part of the United States disappeared under the water, and when he "experienced" sailing in a boat from Hawaii to the mainland (former United States), he claim to have witnessed many small islands (former California) were California is now, during his journey to the mainland.

So question is, if California is going to be turned into many small islands in the future as described in that "Spirit Walker: Messages from the future" book, then when will this happen? Alex Collier claim that the Andromedans showed to him that California will turn into many small islands, but it did not happen in 2004 as Alex Collier said, but when will this happen then? Good question...

do you believe New York was sacrificed and turned to ash in 2000?

Did i ever said that the whole city of New York was turned to "Ash"? No, i didn't... But, do you believe New York was sacrificed and turned to ash in 2000?

do you believe that Moranae knew of "their" plans to sacrifice New York and chose to do nothing to save his "royal" race?

I think you should ask Alex Collier that question, but you can go back and see what i previously posted in that thread, and maybe you will find some answers there.

do you really believe Moranae is from andromeda, and is really not a reptilian?

Only if it turns out that Moranae is from the Andromeda constellation in this galaxy from a star system in the constellation they call Zenetae then of course i will believe that.

If you think Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian being then what make you think Moranae should expose the Draconian reptilian race as the "bad guys" to Alex Collier?
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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 12:12 PM by choos
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Oh yes you do!

really? cheerleading?? you sure? you brought Collier up in that other thread, you were spreading his false words, he is a fraud and a charlatan, who is distancing himself from it all. where is any of his evidence? where is his evidence to solar radiation creates gravity?

If it turns out to be true, so in case it turns out to be true then i will of course believe it's true.

so you will assume that its true for the time being without questioning it?

NASA need to built a spacecraft that is able to travel very close to each moon in this solar system to finally determine how many moons that are actually tidally locked to their planet and how many moons are not tidally locked to their planet. Who knows, it's possible NASA will built a spacecraft that is able to do so in the future, so untill then i can't answer that question yet. I tell you what, why don't you ask NASA to built that kind of spacecraft?

not really, they just need to observe its orbit to determine whether they are tidally locked or not. the more observations the more accurate.

Of course i don't believe California was reduced into small islands in 2004, California is still there, it didn't turn into islands, yet.

How about you, do you believe California was reduced to islands in 2004?

no one believes california was turned to islands in 2004. Collier was wrong again, he just makes things up his strike rate of prediction is reduce to random guesses. so why do you continue to spread his "legacy"?

said >>We were told we would see America come and go<<, so question is, if this is true, then when will this happen? Good question...

history also says all major powers come and go, so whats your point?

So question is, if California is going to be turned into many small islands in the future as described in that "Spirit Walker: Messages from the future" book, then when will this happen? Alex Collier claim that the Andromedans showed to him that California will turn into many small islands, but it did not happen in 2004 as Alex Collier said, but when will this happen then? Good question...

lets guess how far off his prediction is than? thats more fun, his prediction is wrong already so no point arguing about that. you know new zealand wont be there one day also.

Did i ever said that the whole city of New York was turned to "Ash"? No, i didn't... But, do you believe New York was sacrificed and turned to ash in 2000?

probably not, but collier did, do you believe him?

I think you should ask Alex Collier that question, but you can go back and see what i previously posted in that thread, and maybe you will find some answers there.

got an email?

Only if it turns out that Moranae is from the Andromeda constellation in this galaxy from a star system in the constellation they call Zenetae then of course i will believe that.

If you think Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian being then what make you think Moranae should expose the Draconian reptilian race as the "bad guys" to Alex Collier?

first off, i dont believe there is such a being called Moranae, but my point being is why does Moranae know so much about what the reptilians plan to do?

p.s. if you are not preaching about Collier's "works" than why do you bring up his works (without any evidence in more than 15 years) as the truth, over what we humans have been studying ourselves and have been providing evidence for?
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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 02:50 PM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by choos
really? cheerleading?? you sure?

Yeah, you are acting like a
Cheerleader screaming >>Give me a "G" - give me an "I" - give me a "B" - give me a "B" - give me an "O" - give me a "R" - give me an "I" - give me an "U" - give me a "M"<< , you support 'Gibborium' like a cheerleader no matter how false informations 'Gibborium' brings up...

you brought Collier up in that other thread,

Yeah, i brought up Alex Collier in that "Faked Moon Landing - Amazing Documentary" thread because he said something about the Moon and the astronauts that makes the "Faked Moon Landing"-theory even more doubtful and there is absolutely nothing wrong about that...

Page 31 in that www.abovetopsecret.com... thread "reply posted on 7-6-2012 @ 06:29 PM by Anunaki10" were Collier said >>Much of the debris on the surface on the Moon was put there and built purposely to make it look like it isn't<< ,

Page 35 in that www.abovetopsecret.com... thread "reply posted on 1-7-2012 @ 01:22 PM by Anunaki10" www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
Q: Did our astronauts really go there? AC: I know there has been a lot of talk about this. Many of the pictures that you have seen from the surface of the moon were faked, because the actual pictures showed that there was "stuff" all over the place. *) Yes, they did go, but there was manipulation of the result involved. Morenae has told me that the United States government has 53 of its own disks stationed on the moon. *) The astronauts were told to shut up and not say anything.

Alex Collier said the astronauts were told to shut up about the weird stuff and the UFOs on the Moon, which corroborates with other sources, including the Russians who also confirm it, which i also presented during that thread , and Page 35 same thread, "reply posted on 8-7-2012 @ 06:49 AM by Anunaki10" www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
The humans on the moon are Aryans by birth, there with extraterrestrials.

Other sources confirm about extraterrestrials on the Moon, for example this www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
We have accumulated massive research indicating our Moon was colonized and explored by races from other planets, most notably in the Orion constellation

Speaking of Orion, Alex Collier also mentioned extraterrestrials from Orion on the Moon. Wow just wow, what a coincident, don't you think? The above link also mention >>There is also absolute scientific proof that the Zetans have forcibly abducted thousands of Americans, many who were used in bizarre Nazi-like genetic experiments<<. Scientific proof huh, wow just wow, did you know there is scientific proof of that? I can show it to you, if you wish

he is a fraud

Just because Alex Collier is not always accruate it does not necessarily make him a fraud, and like i said in this www.abovetopsecret.com... "Michael Horn attacks Alex Collier" thread, it seems Michael Horn gives Billy Meier Credit, but on the other hand he claim Alex Collier as a fraud despite the fact that lots of Colliers' informations corroborates with other 'contactees', and other interesting informations by Alex Collier you just can't dismiss just like that. In reality, Michael Horn can only say that some informations said by Alex Collier are not accurate, but that does not necessarily make Alex Collier a fraud. I'm not saying that Alex Collier is right about everything, but it's wrong of Michael Horn to judge and treat Alex Collier the way he does. You also have to remember that 'Gibborium' said >>Sounds to me Alex Collier misunderstood these aliens as they spoke to him telepathically<<, and like i said to Gibborium, there is a good chance that maybe Alex Collier misunderstood some of what Moranae reportedly "told" him.

where is his evidence to solar radiation creates gravity?

We have yet to see that evidence, that's correct, but you still don't know whether solar radiation creates gravity or not create gravity, you still don't know that.

not really, they just need to observe its orbit to determine whether they are tidally locked or not. the more observations the more accurate.

That's not good enough, NASA still need to built a spacecraft that is able to travel very close to and stop near each moon in this solar system to finally determine how many moons that are actually tidally locked to their planet and how many moons are not tidally locked to their planet.

no one believes california was turned to islands in 2004

You don't know if there are anyone out there who don't believe that, but it would be more correct of you to say that the majority know that California is still there.

Collier was wrong again

Collier was wrong about when something would happen to New York, he said it would happen in the year of 2000, but 911 happened one year later, so Collier missed one year, that's correct, and he was also wrong when he said that California would turn to many small islands in 2004, because it did not happen, yet.

history also says all major powers come and go, so whats your point?

You mean history shows lots of governments come and go, right? It's not the same as >>We were told we would see America come and go<<. The Roman empire is defeated and gone long time ago, yes, but what make you think that the United States will be defeated/destroyed by war? Do you think the United States will be destroyed by war? You don't know whether it will be destroyed by war or by natural disaster, you don't what will become of the United States.

probably not, but collier did, do you believe him?

Probably not you say, so what you say is that you are not sure whether 911 happened in 2000 or in 2001 Of course i believe it happened in 2001, because fact is it happened in 2001, i also believe only a certain area was turned to "Ash" because it's also fact, and like i just said to you, just because Alex Collier is not always accruate it does not necessarily make him a fraud, and like i said in this www.abovetopsecret.com... "Michael Horn attacks Alex Collier" thread, it seems Michael Horn gives Billy Meier Credit, but on the other hand he claim Alex Collier as a fraud despite the fact that lots of Colliers' informations corroborates with other 'contactees', and other interesting informations by Alex Collier you just can't dismiss just like that. In reality, Michael Horn can only say that some informations said by Alex Collier are not accurate, but that does not necessarily make Alex Collier a fraud. I'm not saying that Alex Collier is right about everything, but it's wrong of Michael Horn to judge and treat Alex Collier the way he does. You also have to remember that 'Gibborium' said >>Sounds to me Alex Collier misunderstood these aliens as they spoke to him telepathically<<, and like i said to Gibborium, there is a good chance that maybe Alex Collier misunderstood some of what Moranae reportedly "told" him.

got an email?

Nope, i don't know about his email adress, and even if i knew about his email adress then what make you think i would give you his email adress so you can harass him, huh? The only way you can ask him is when you coincidentally meet him on the road, or if you attend his next conference.

if you are not preaching about Collier's "works" than why do you bring up his works without any evidence in more than 15 years as the truth, over what we humans have been studying ourselves and have been providing evidence for?

You have not provided any evidence about human study. I'm not preaching his work, i just provide what he brings up. He did show evidence of some part of his prediction about New York, not entirely accurate, but still partly, only a certain area of New York was actually turned to "Ash". He did say it will be a Sacrifice, and that's exactly what it turned out to be, a "Sacrifice" www.cuttingedge.org...

i dont believe there is such a being called Moranae

Oh yes you do believe there is such a being called Moranae, otherwise you would not continue posting here...

but my point being is why does Moranae know so much about what the reptilians plan to do?

Can you point out where Moranae said Moranae know so much about what the reptilians plan to do?
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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 05:21 PM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by choos
if you are not preaching about Collier's "works" than why do you bring up his works without any evidence in more than 15 years as the truth, over what we humans have been studying ourselves and have been providing evidence for?

You have not provided any evidence about human study. I'm not preaching his work, i just provide what he brings up. From about 1:40:00 into this
1996 Moon and Mars Lecture, Alex Collier speaks out about the predictions. It turned out the evidence shows that of some part of his prediction about New York did come through, not entirely accurate, but still partly, only a certain area of New York was actually turned to "Ash", and one year later than predicted. He did say it will be a Sacrifice, and that's exactly what it turned out to be, a "Sacrifice" www.cuttingedge.org...
Finally, this attack on the Twin Towers also was a perfect Satanic Fire Sacrifice , as we detail in NEWS1541. Many pictures abounded that showed a Demon's face in the Fire high up on the Twin Towers. Two former Satanists called me within a couple of hours after those pictures were released, to tell me that those faces looked exactly like Demons they had seen during a ritual when Demons physically manifest themselves in this dimension. Cisco Wheeler further said that some of the most powerful Demons in Satan's kingdom were known as Fire Demons ; it was to these Demons that the ancient peoples -- including Jews -- sacrificed their children to Molech. The appearance of these Demons faces might be proof of what I have been saying -- that the attack was a Fire Ritual Sacrifice carried out by the Illuminati.


i dont believe there is such a being called Moranae

Oh yes you do believe there is such a being called Moranae, otherwise you would not continue posting here...

but my point being is why does Moranae know so much about what the reptilians plan to do?

Can you point out where Moranae said Moranae know so much about what the reptilians plan to do? The Andromedans seems to know a lot, yes, but how they know so much that i can't answer.

Like i answered your post here www.abovetopsecret.com... www.examiner.com...

ET Council: War with grey-Draco reptilian ETs is won, no false flag ET invasion. In an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview by Alfred Lambremont Webre with a human representative-contactee of the extraterrestrial governance council known as the Andromeda Council it has been revealed that the war of liberation against a 4th dimensional Orion grey and Draco reptilian alliance has been won by the forces of the Andromeda Council as of the 3rd quarter of 2011. The attempted the occupation of Earth, our moon and Mars by this grey-Reptilian alliance is over. The defeated grey-reptilian forces have been sent via stargate into the far reaches of our universe.

The Andromeda Council representative states in his ExopoliticsTV interview that the forces of the 4th dimensional Orion grey and Draco reptilian forces that remain on Earth consist of small pockets of isolated forces around such as Washington, DC.



Do you see Moranae mentioned in that link?

The link mention that the Andromeda Council DECIDED to SET ASIDE the LAW of NON-INTERVENTION because if the grey-Reptilians were allowed to go on with their abusive occupation of Earth, moon and Mars, the grey-Reptilians would establish a “tyranny” in this sector of the universe, and the Andromedans themselves and a great many star systems would be affected negatively, that's what it states.
Benevolent beings were reportedly not allowed to intervene untill now, and why they were not allowed to do that until now that i can't answer.

While Collier reportedly have Moranae as Andromeda Council contact person, 'Tolec' claim to have Andromeda Council contacts like Tania as one of them www.andromedacouncil.com...
I asked my Andromeda Council contacts, specifically Vice Chairwoman Tania, this question about peoples valid concern for their domesticated pets: dogs, cats, ferrets, hamsters, gerbils, guinea pigs, rabbits, pot belly pigs, parrots, pygmy goats and the list goes on & on... about peoples domestic animal family friends. And here was her answer: "...they will all make the transition to becoming 4D, higher dimensional, creatures as your planet becomes a higher dimensional world." Vice Chairwoman Tania showed me a fourth dimensional tree that bears a very high protein, as well as healthy enzymes, kind of 'fruit' that our meat eating animal friends will be able to eat & easily thrive on. They will be fine. Of course, for the rabbits, gerbils, hamsters, guinea pigs their transition and how they will survive is an easy one - they are already vegetable eating critters, not a problem here at all for the future of these animals.
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reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 09:38 PM by choos
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Yeah, you are acting like a Cheerleader screaming nip>, you support 'Gibborium' like a cheerleader no matter how false informations 'Gibborium' brings up...

just because i agree with Gibborium, doesnt make one a cheerleader. seriously Collier said solar radiation creates gravity and only the earths moon is tidally locked to its respective planet. he passes these off as the truth with out any evidence at all, he only says some alien told him... telepathically.

that rings fraud/charlatan all over the place.
Yeah, i brought up Alex Collier in that "Faked Moon Landing - Amazing Documentary" thread because he said something about the Moon and the astronauts that makes the "Faked Moon Landing"-theory even more doubtful and there is absolutely nothing wrong about that...

Page 31 in that www.abovetopsecret.com... thread "reply posted on 7-6-2012 @ 06:29 PM by Anunaki10" were Collier said >>Much of the debris on the surface on the Moon was put there and built purposely to make it look like it isn't<< ,

Page 35 in that www.abovetopsecret.com... thread "reply posted on 1-7-2012 @ 01:22 PM by Anunaki10" www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

and what was the purpose? none of what he says has any evidence at all to back up his "claims", most of his "words" belong in the hoax thread, they hold no weight at all. its like bringing the crazy cat lady to a dog convention.
Alex Collier said the astronauts were told to shut up about the weird stuff and the UFOs on the Moon, which corroborates with other sources, including the Russians who also confirm it, which i also presented during that thread , and Page 35 same thread, "reply posted on 8-7-2012 @ 06:49 AM by Anunaki10" www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

The humans on the moon are Aryans by birth, there with extraterrestrials. You can read between the lines to gauge the implications of that last statement.

hang on, you are using Collier's confirmation that the russians confirmed what Collier said about how the astronauts were told to shush?

humans on the moon? so there should be some larger space station base on the moon right? as there is practically no atmosphere on the moon.
Other sources confirm about extraterrestrials on the Moon, for example this www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

haha i like that little made up transcript of Astronauts talking to mission control.. can read the panic in their voices.. too bad in the worst crisis they never panicked like that over the comms.
Speaking of Orion, Alex Collier also mentioned extraterrestrials from Orion on the Moon. Wow just wow, what a coincident, don't you think? The above link also mention >>There is also absolute scientific proof that the Zetans have forcibly abducted thousands of Americans, many who were used in bizarre Nazi-like genetic experiments<<. Scientific proof huh, wow just wow, did you know there is scientific proof of that? I can show it to you, if you wish

coincident?? not really, am i right to assume that all these different species are all living inside the moon? why are they forcibly abducting thousands of americans only? are they bringing them to the moon for their experiments? and yes i would like to see this scientific proof.
Just because Alex Collier is not always accruate it does not necessarily make him a fraud,

what makes him a fraud is saying that solar radiation creates gravity without any evidence, and passing it off as truth.
nip>You also have to remember that 'Gibborium' said >>Sounds to me Alex Collier misunderstood these aliens as they spoke to him telepathically<<, and like i said to Gibborium, there is a good chance that maybe Alex Collier misunderstood some of what Moranae reportedly "told" him.

ill leave that subject to that thread.. honestly i dont think gibborium believes him and is poking fun at you, he says it in a similar tone to how i say Moranae is a reptilian and is tricking Collier. although you need his confirmation on that.
We have yet to see that evidence, that's correct, but you still don't know whether solar radiation creates gravity or not create gravity, you still don't know that.

all our physics models is based on Newtons gravity equations, and they work quite well. i see no relationship between solar radiation and our current gravity equations.. at all. it doesnt fit.


reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 09:58 PM by choos
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You have not provided any evidence about human study. I'm not preaching his work, i just provide what he brings up. From about 1:40:00 into this

no offence but have you learnt anything about newton? any relatively famous astronomist? copernicus? cassini?
heres a list of astronomers and astrophysicists who have made contributions in the field of astronomy.
en.wikipedia.org...

does Colliers "words" overrule all of these people?
1996 Moon and Mars Lecture, Alex Collier speaks out about the predictions. It turned out the evidence shows that of some part of his prediction about New York did come through, not entirely accurate, but still partly, only a certain area of New York was actually turned to "Ash", and one year later than predicted. He did say it will be a Sacrifice, and that's exactly what it turned out to be, a "Sacrifice"

yea you gone over this, and ive told you what i believe. incase you missed it, his predictions isnt accurate, its late and its only a the WTC that was sacrificed, not New York city which is what he predicted. i can still visit New York city today if i wished, but i cannot visit the WTC of New York city.
Oh yes you do believe there is such a being called Moranae, otherwise you would not continue posting here...

do you understand my position? im calling Collier a fraud, therefore he made "Moranae" up, im here to see if its at all possible to help you notice that Collier is a fraud/charlatan.
Can you point out where Moranae said Moranae know so much about what the reptilians plan to do? The Andromedans seems to know a lot, yes, but how they know so much that i can't answer.

he told Collier about the reptilians plans, not once but twice (that i know of) New York city and california.. so how did he come by these plans? is he a spy for the andromedans doing spy work and reporting to Collier and his council members? i dont know why he should warn Collier though, no normal spy would do that as that could endanger their plans.
or, is moranae a reptilian pretending to be an andromedan council member making up the council completely, to mislead Collier, to mislead you?
Do you see Moranae mentioned in that link?

The link mention that the Andromeda Council DECIDED to SET ASIDE the LAW of NON-INTERVENTION because if the grey-Reptilians were allowed to go on with their abusive occupation of Earth, moon and Mars, the grey-Reptilians would establish a “tyranny” in this sector of the universe, and the Andromedans themselves and a great many star systems would be affected negatively, that's what it states.
Benevolent beings were reportedly not allowed to intervene untill now, and why they were not allowed to do that until now that i can't answer.

While Collier reportedly have Moranae as Andromeda Council contact person, 'Tolec' claim to have Andromeda Council contacts like Tania as one of them www.andromedacouncil.com...

moranae knows too much about what the reptilians plan to do, what does that suggest to you?
the andromedan galaxy is very far away, occupying earth moon and mars is 3 bodies in one solar system, consisting of billions of solar systems in our galaxy, which is very far from the andromeda galaxy.
and when you say they werent allowed to act until now, when is now exactly? is it back in 1996?

p.s. why are Colliers contacts so high up? vice chairwoman? the council sure like to expend the top brass for mundane jobs, not very efficient way to run things.
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reply posted on 3-9-2012 @ 09:08 AM by wmd_2008
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watched first 32 mins will watch the rest later what an a55hole he is, seriously he keeps on saying gravity is not due to rotation WHO said it was due to rotation gravity is all about mass

The guy is an idiot


reply posted on 3-9-2012 @ 02:43 PM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by greyer
Well at least it brings no pressure to summarize one whole thread into one small word - fraud.

You don't believe he is a fraud, otherwise you would not be posting here

And like i said in this
www.abovetopsecret.com... "Michael Horn attacks Alex Collier" thread, it seems Michael Horn gives Billy Meier Credit, but on the other hand he claim Alex Collier as a fraud despite the fact that lots of Colliers' informations corroborates with other 'contactees', and other interesting informations by Alex Collier you just can't dismiss just like that. In reality, Michael Horn can only say that some informations said by Alex Collier are not accurate, but that does not necessarily make Alex Collier a fraud. I'm not saying that Alex Collier is right about everything, but it's wrong of Michael Horn to judge and treat Alex Collier the way he does.



reply posted on 3-9-2012 @ 03:21 PM by Anunaki10
Originally posted by choos
no offence but have you learnt anything about newton?

That's long time ago

yea you gone over this, and ive told you what i believe.

Nope, you did not tell what you believe about the "Sacrifice".

incase you missed it, his predictions isnt accurate,

You mean you missed it, you're still struggling trying to understand what is being posted but you apparently also have problems with your english language as well. And not only that, as you previously admitted yourself, you don't know much! Don't you feel you are wasting your precious time here?

Like i previously said on "reply posted on 2-9-2012 @ 02:50 PM by Anunaki10" this thread, Collier was wrong about when something would happen to New York, he said it would happen in the year of 2000, but 911 happened one year later, so Collier missed one year, that's correct, and he was also wrong when he said that California would turn to many small islands in 2004, because it did not happen, yet.
He did show evidence of some part of his prediction about New York, not entirely accurate, but still partly, only a certain area of New York was actually turned to "Ash". He did say it will be a Sacrifice, and that's exactly what it turned out to be, a "Sacrifice"
www.cuttingedge.org...
Finally, this attack on the Twin Towers also was a perfect Satanic Fire Sacrifice , as we detail in NEWS1541. Many pictures abounded that showed a Demon's face in the Fire high up on the Twin Towers. Two former Satanists called me within a couple of hours after those pictures were released, to tell me that those faces looked exactly like Demons they had seen during a ritual when Demons physically manifest themselves in this dimension. Cisco Wheeler further said that some of the most powerful Demons in Satan's kingdom were known as Fire Demons ; it was to these Demons that the ancient peoples -- including Jews -- sacrificed their children to Molech. The appearance of these Demons faces might be proof of what I have been saying -- that the attack was a Fire Ritual Sacrifice carried out by the Illuminati.


im calling Collier a fraud, therefore he made "Moranae" up, im here to see if its at all possible to help you notice that Collier is a fraud/charlatan.

You don't believe Collier as a fraud, come on, you better stop lying... Don't you see how foolish you make yourself look like? You are sinking lower and lower... This is so sad for you...

Beside, if you look below you will see yourself saying >>moranae knows too much about what the reptilians plan to do<< , which means this further confirm that YOU DO NOT believe Collier as a fraud/charlatan, like YOU DO NOT believe he made up Moranae... Gotcha...

he told Collier about the reptilians plans, not once but twice (that i know of)

You need to prove where Moranae told Collier about the reptilians' plans... Please point it out for all to see

or, is moranae a reptilian pretending to be an andromedan council member making up the council completely, to mislead Collier, to mislead you?

Moranae reportedly expose the Draconian Reptilians as the "Bad guys" to Alex Collier... If Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian then why should Moranae expose the Dracon Reptilian race as "Bad guys" to Alex Collier? Like i previously said to you on "posted on 2-9-2012 @ 09:26 AM" this thread, if you think Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian being then what make you think Moranae should expose the Draconian reptilian race as the "bad guys" to Alex Collier? Come on, you still need to answer that question... Or is it really so difficult for you to answer such simple question? Would it help if i repeat it to you in big words?

If you think Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian being then what make you think Moranae should expose the Draconian reptilian race as the "bad guys" to Alex Collier?
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reply posted on 3-9-2012 @ 10:21 PM by choos
reply to post by Anunaki10



That's long time ago

do you mean to say you learnt it a long time ago or did you mean to say newton came up with those equations a long time ago?
Nope, you did not tell what you believe about the "Sacrifice".

i have told you what i believe, i believe Collier is a fraud/charlatan. New York city was not sacrificed end of story. WTC may have been sacrificed (this is an open ended debate as you will never know whether or not it really was so its useless debating it) but that was not the prediction. New York city still exists today and has not been sacrificed and was not turned to ash, the WTC of New York city however was turned to ash and does not exist in its previous state prior to 2001.
You mean you missed it, you're still struggling trying to understand what is being posted but you apparently also have problems with your english language as well. And not only that, as you previously admitted yourself, you don't know much! Don't you feel you are wasting your precious time here?

you really are childish with your retorts arent you?
its been shown time and time again that you have trouble with english so ill repeat it again, i said WE dont know much, as in the human race which, presumably YOU, also belong to.
wasting my time? yes this is wasting my precious time. like seriously, talking about reptilians, andromeda council, collier talking telepathically? but at least im enjoying it.
He did show evidence of some part of his prediction about New York, not entirely accurate,

enough said.
You don't believe Collier as a fraud, come on, you better stop lying... Don't you see how foolish you make yourself look like? You are sinking lower and lower... This is so sad for you...

Beside, if you look below you will see yourself saying >>moranae knows too much about what the reptilians plan to do<< , which means this further confirm that YOU DO NOT believe Collier as a fraud/charlatan, like YOU DO NOT believe he made up Moranae... Gotcha...

honestly, who gives you the authority to SAY what i believe or dont believe? if i didnt believe Collier is a fraud and charlatan than why am i trying to convince you that he is?
and do you not know when im poking fun at you?? do you know what sarcasm is? maybe you should read up on it.
You need to prove where Moranae told Collier about the reptilians' plans... Please point it out for all to see

very well, in the video in your OP about 1.40, did Collier say that New York city will be sacrificed, will be turned to ash? how did Collier come about this knowledge? answer - Moranae
remember where Collier gets his information from?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
in this above post you stated that it was the reptilians plan to sacrifice New York city.
these are your own words, let me summarise for you, Moranae told Collier about the reptilians plans to sacrifice new york city..... telepathically.
Moranae reportedly expose the Draconian Reptilians as the "Bad guys" to Alex Collier... If Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian then why should Moranae expose the Dracon Reptilian race as "Bad guys" to Alex Collier?

because its double agent like stuff, you know, super secret missions, 007 stuff, to mislead Collier into making a fool of himself giving him wrong predictions for him to lose his credibility and all that stuff
if you think Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian being then what make you think Moranae should expose the Draconian reptilian race as the "bad guys" to Alex Collier? Come on, you still need to answer that question... Or is it really so difficult for you to answer such simple question? Would it help if i repeat it to you in big words?

read above, to mislead Collier and make him a fraud/charlatan.

If you think Moranae is a Draconian Reptilian being then what make you think Moranae should expose the Draconian reptilian race as the "bad guys" to Alex Collier?

read above, to mislead Collier and make him a fraud/charlatan.

p.s. i dont believe any of this tripe, i am just humoring you.
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reply posted on 4-9-2012 @ 10:23 AM by Gibborium
reply to post by Anunaki10

I told you what I thought about Alex Collier and his being a contactee. It was posted HERE at abovetopsecret.com. Here is a small snippet:
You must understand the statement, "Sounds to me [like] Alex Collier misunderstood these aliens as they spoke to him telepathically" in the context of the post. I am calling him a fraud! Stating that he must have misunderstood is a sarcastic statement. It is a form of ridicule. I do not believe anything Alex Collier, aka Ralph Amagran, aka Ralph Amigron has to say. He is a liar, a cheat, and a charlatan.

I do know that he is not a contactee. He has never been contacted by any off world alien race of any kind.

And, this is what I am enthusiastic about. He is a charlatan, faker, fraud, hoaxer, humbug, mountebank, phony, pretender, quack, quacksalver, ringer, sham, copycat, imitator, impersonator, mimic; actor, bluffer, counterfeiter, deceiver, duper, feigner, misleader, trickster; poseur; cozener, defrauder, dodger, fraudster, scammer, scamster, sharpie, skinner, swindler crook, deceit, dishonest, double-dealer, duper, lying, mendacity, prevaricator; chicaner, skuldugger, swindler, two-faced; treacherous, underhanded, unscrupulous; shady, sneaky, shifty person! Webster's Thesaurus

Can I say it any plainer? No part of me believes anything about Alex Collier, including his name!

Again, I do NOT believe Collier is in any way a "contactee" of any kind. I think he is a copycat, plagiarist. I do NOT believe anything he has said about being a "contactee", nor the things he has plagiarized from anyone else. He is a fraud and a charlatan.

You have shown absolutely no evidence of any kind to support your belief in Collier nor his idiotic story of being an alien contactee. You, Anunaki10, show absolutely no comprehension of physics or anything pertaining to it. You don't understand sarcasm, and you don't have a good understanding of basic English. When I was ridiculing Collier, you thought I was supporting him.

To summarize: Alex Collier, aka Ralph Amagran, aka Ralph Amigron is a plagiarizing charlatan!
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