posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 09:38 AM
reply to post by jjf3rd77
Honestly aren't we all Republicans in name only? I represent the status quo of the Republicans. The moderates. You are a neocon. Paul
supporters are libertarians.
I’m not a neocon, I’m a conservative and, to use a phrase coined by Jessie Ventura, I’m “Libertarian Lite”. Neocons are people like GB, Dick
Cheney, John Boehner, John McCain et al. The neocons are the status quo establishment Republicans. I don’t think you know the true definition of
Neoconservatism (or new conservatism) is rooted in a group of former liberals, who in the late 1960s, began to embrace nationalism and
interventionism in opposition to the rise of the USSR and moved significantly to the right of the spectrum. The term "neoconservative" (sometimes
shortened to "neocon") was initially used in the 1930s, to describe American liberals who criticized communists for following a path closer to Soviet
Neoconservative foreign policy is a descendant of Wilsonian idealism. Neoconservatives support democracy promotion by the U.S. and other
democracies, based on the claim that they think that human rights belong to everyone. They criticized the United Nations and detente with the Soviet
Union. On domestic policy, they support a welfare state, like European and Canadian conservatives and unlike U.S. social conservatives. According to
Norman Podhoretz, "the neo-conservatives dissociated themselves from the wholesale opposition to the welfare state which had marked American
conservatism since the days of the New Deal" and . . . while neoconservatives supported "setting certain limits" to the welfare state, those limits
did not involve "issues of principle, such as the legitimate size and role of the central government in the American constitutional order" but were to
be "determined by practical considerations."
Neocons are big government Republicans like those you advocate for. I’m for limited government and I’m against the welfare state.
I am quite happy that the GOP chose to go this route. Romney and others clearly did not want any crazies messing up their chances to beat
Obama and after the horrendous selection of so-called conservatives that fringe bases came up with: Rick Santorum= Religious, Ron Paul= Libertarian,
Michelle Bauchmann= crazy conservative chick etc... I don't blame them! Get off my lawn, leave my party, and stop whining when you lose! You hijacked
this party from the start. Get a clue!
Leave my party? The GOP of today is a bunch of neocons that have highjacked the republican party! The GOP used to be conservative….it is you who
needs a clue.
The GOP has always been about big business and corporate rights. We also like to talk about the constitution and yell at the establishment
democrats when they stray too far off the system!
You got that right! You like to “TALK” about the constitution and then do the exact opposite. TARP and the bailouts are neocon ideas and they’re
unconstitutional! The Patriot act and NDAA are both unconstitutional usurpations of power and neocons and liberals alike were ALL OVER IT!
The establishment parties on both sides are destroying this country IMO. It’s time conservatives break from the GOP since our efforts to take the
party back from the neocon establishment are failing.
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