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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:22 PM
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The recent thread about OBVIOUS fraud committed against conservatives (and Ron Paul) last week has really upset me. For those who haven’t seen this fraud, take a look.

The vote for rule 16 concerning the binding of delegates was completely scripted!! There was never a vote!! Delegates were also purposely kept from attending the vote.



We have OBVIOUS fraud perpetrated by the corrupt neocon/RINO segment that comprises a majority of the GOP. This move was intentionally designed to shut down the right wing/conservative side of the party in this and ALL future elections.

Now, take a look at Sen. Scott Brown’s perception of the GOP.


(Washington Times) Sen. Scott Brown was quick to distance himself from the Republican establishment after arriving in Tampa on Thursday morning, saying he’s happy to be at the convention’s final day but warning that he disagrees with parts of his party’s conservative platform.

Locked into a hard fight against Democrat Elizabeth Warren to keep his Senate seat, the Massachusetts Republican has been painting himself to voters as a centrist even as the GOP moves to the right on many issues.

“Obviously me being here is important in that it shows as someone who’s a pro-choice, moderate Republican is here as part of the big tent that we have and should have and will continue to have,” he said, speaking to reporters at the Tampa Marriott Waterside Hotel and Marina, next door to the convention center.
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Scott Brown thinks the GOP is TOO FAR TO THE RIGHT?????


So let me get this straight……the Speaker of the House commits obvious FRAUD that will marginalize conservatives (the real right) in this and ALL future elections and Brown thinks the GOP is too far right?? The VP nominee voted for NDAA!! The P nominee was pro-choice before he was pro-life (both times when convenient) and he designed Romneycare, the model for Obamacare!!

The “RIGHT” upholds the constitution. The “RIGHT” respects the voting process. The “RIGHT” rejects the Patriot Act, NDAA, SOPA, ACTA, etc.! The RIGHT isn’t represented in by the GOP!!!

Now take a look at this spin! When I Google “Tea Party leaves GOP” I get a dozen stories with the title “Tea Party leaves imprint on GOP convention”. Here is one of those stories:


There's a marriage of convenience at the Republican National Convention this week.

Mitt Romney needs the tea party's vigor to ensure the GOP's conservative base is fired up and works on his behalf this fall. The three-year-old tea party movement needs the Republican Party and its new standard-bearer to champion its causes and get its agenda enacted. And the two sides have never had much affinity for the other.

Yet, the tea party has left a solid imprint on its first GOP presidential convention, from the speeches to the platform to the displays of deep opposition to President Barack Obama. With this backdrop, Romney — hardly the first choice of this group of insurgents — will accept the nomination Thursday.
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"Insurgents"????


They talk about how the GOP needs the Tea Party and what a great impact the Tea Party had at the convention at the same time Boehner is faking votes and Brown and others are distancing themselves from the convention and calling conservatives "insurgents"?


The Tea Party is being placated, marginalized and used by the GOP!!

A-holes like Brown (he and ¾ of the GOP) are NOT THE RIGHT! The GOP isn’t representative of “THE RIGHT”. The GOP and Democrats in today’s two-party system aren’t much different; hence the false left/right ¬paradigm charge.

The REAL RIGHT is getting SCREWED; RP got screwed; Conservative Americans are getting screwed! Conservatives must break from the GOP after this November election.

I’ve heard no call by the Tea Party for conservatives to break from the GOP (at least not from the national level). We all must agree at this point that the Tea Party at the national level has indeed been co-opted by the GOP. We’re being placated and used by the GOP and MSM!

I’ve heard no call by the RonPaulREVOLUTION for conservatives to break from the GOP. In fact, I’ve heard many paulites say they’re voting for Obama!! WTF? How can you possibly call yourself a conservative if you vote for a Marxist???


Where is the movement for conservative Americans to break from the GOP and the two-party fraudulent monopoly because I want to sign up!!!




posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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Wow.

I knew if I persisted and waited for it long enough, I would 1 day agree with you.

Todays the day, the first Flag and Star I ever gave you.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
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Wow.

I knew if I persisted and waited for it long enough, I would 1 day agree with you.

Todays the day, the first Flag and Star I ever gave you.




That makes two of us !
Star and Flag.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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Wow.

I knew if I persisted and waited for it long enough, I would 1 day agree with you.

Todays the day, the first Flag and Star I ever gave you.


FIRST S&F????

You haven’t been paying attention, friend!


So give me your take on this issue! Based on our previous conversations you don’t strike me as conservative, so why does this thread strike your fancy?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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I’ve heard no call by the RonPaulREVOLUTION for conservatives to break from the GOP. In fact, I’ve heard many paulites say they’re voting for Obama!! WTF? How can you possibly call yourself a conservative if you vote for a Marxist???


Don't see how they could vote that way but they will.

The fact is both sides call themselves labels they are not the winner of elections has become who lies the best.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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"Tea party" as in those one who injected Sarah Palin and friends etc, or the real Liberty movement tea party? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but when we start making this about something it's not, that tends to get pretty frustrating as well. Remember, the "tea party" was infiltrated by Palin and pals and it totally put a blanket over the real tea party started by Ron Paul supporters.

I agree there is a split in the GOP, and the new rules equate to pure insanity but let's give credit where credit is due in terms of WHY they chose these new rules in the first place.
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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When you lie with fleas, you get dogs!

Oh wait...



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

So give me your take on this issue! Based on our previous conversations you don’t strike me as conservative, so why does this thread strike your fancy?
I used to be a solid GOP supporter.

Bush and Cheney and Rumsfield and Rice and the rest of the Neo-cons turned me off the GOP, mostly that ******** Cheney.

And with more Neo-cons representing the GOP, I`ll have to vote Obama again.

I mean cmon man, you pay attention for once, a guy (McCain who came within a few % of being the POTUS) going around singing Bomb Iran.

This is the Party for you.............



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Don't see how they could vote that way but they will.

The fact is both sides call themselves labels they are not the winner of elections has become who lies the best.


I know they will…many have said so.

Both political parties are indeed facades hiding the singular agenda while superficially hinting at the real and distinct ideologies that back them with votes.

I subscribe to the conservative ideology and I’ve said dozens of times here on ATS that I HAVE NEVER had a candidate that represents me even 90%...NEVER!

I’m tired of it….when will the conservative break from the GOP happen?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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I’ve heard no call by the RonPaulREVOLUTION for conservatives to break from the GOP. In fact, I’ve heard many paulites say they’re voting for Obama!


Where are you hearing this, do you have any sources to back that up? I don't know ONE Ron Paul supporter who isn't either a: Writing in Ron Paul or b: Voting Gary Johnson.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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I agree there is a split in the GOP, and the new rules equate to pure insanity but let's give credit where credit is due in terms of WHY they chose these new rules in the first place.


They chose these rules because the establishment felt threatened…grass roots movements always threaten the establishment.




"Tea party" as in those one who injected Sarah Palin and friends etc, or the real Liberty movement tea party? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but when we start making this about something it's not, that tends to get pretty frustrating as well. Remember, the "tea party" was infiltrated by Palin and pals and it totally put a blanket over the real tea party started by Ron Paul supporters.


I’m not talking about the national co-opted tea party. I’m referring to the Tea Party that I know locally. I’m talking about constitutional conservatives who support the constitution and are ill at the prospect of 4 more year of another Bush or Obama.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Threatened by Ron Paul and that's all there is to it.
Don't try to tell us they were threatened by Rick Santorum! lol. Carry on...



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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This is what I've been trying to tell the conservatives here in Alabama. The GOP has been hi-jacked by progressives. They are in denial because of their hatred for Obama. They keep saying that if Romney doesn't do the job they will get rid of him. The RNC just took that power from the grassroots. I strongly believe that a Romney presidency won't be much different than the current one and the GOP has already made arrangements for the backlash.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Where are you hearing this, do you have any sources to back that up? I don't know ONE Ron Paul supporter who isn't either a: Writing in Ron Paul or b: Voting Gary Johnson.


Regrettably I do not….I was referring to paulites here on ATS and posts I’ve seen on FB and other places.

I’m sure some of the ATS paulites will chime in and defend this Obama position if they see this thread. Otherwise you’ll have to take my word for it because I don’t intend to dig through 3,000 threads to post examples for you.

Trust me…it’s been said many times here on ATS and I certainly don’t get it! It makes sense to me that they would back Johnson but many have indicated other intentions.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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I'll take your word for it, I have no reason to believe you're lying. But If any Paul supporters are voting in Obama rather than Gary Johnson, then that is a serious problem and they haven't been paying attention. It makes me wonder if they are just Democrats who posed as Paul supporters.
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Threatened by Ron Paul and that's all there is to it. Don't try to tell us they were threatened by Rick Santorum! lol. Carry on...


Sure they were threatened by Rick; and Cain too!

They picked their puppet long ago! Romney was the lock…nothing was going to change that.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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Ron Paul supporters are pissed right now. I think once things calm down they will realize Johnson is the only other option. I see Ron Paul throwing his support to him. The GOP has already tried to get a 3rd party option removed from the ballot in Nov.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 09:05 PM
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I'll take your word for it, I have no reason to believe you're lying. But If any Paul supporters are voting in Obama rather than Gary Johnson, then that is a serious problem and they haven't been paying attention.


I will PM someone who has seen this trend too….I know Neo has but he’s not responding. Maybe I can get back to you with some examples from ATS.



It makes me wonder if they are just Democrats who posed to be Paul supporters.


That’s exactly what I was thinking. This rush to Obama after RP was failing was what really turned me off from voting RP. I could never pin down some of the supporters and I always thought this was some type of democrat scheme to derail other candidates.

We’ll never know…



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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While I will agree all grassroots GOP candidates are threatned by this from now on, neither Gingrich or Santorum were any threat to the establishment GOP as both of those candidates were establishment candidates. Not to mention neither of those candidates had any real passionate support behind their politics. Looks like we're going to disagree on this.
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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While I will agree all grassroots candidates are threatned by this from now on, neither Gingrich or Santorum were any threat to the establishment GOP as both of those candidates were establishment candidates. Not to mention neither of those candidates had any real passionate support behind their politics. Looks like we're going to disagree on this.


Yes, those two are both establishment but they also posed threats. They were both a little more right than the party wanted to go…especially Santorum with his religious influence.

What about Cain? He’s never held office and was a big Tea Party favorite.






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