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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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reply to post by RealSpoke
 


If Obama says ACA was a mistake and wants to repeal it. I will vote for Obama. Just for the record, Obama is my favorite Democrat and Clinton is my least liked Democrat. History will be kind to Obama.




posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
I wait with baited breath that those people who did not waste any time "pointing" out the errors of the evil Republicans and do the same to the Democrats. The DNC convention is up and coming and I want to see those critics hold their own party to the same standards they set for the Republicans This week.

That won't happen.

For the past four years we've seen it all over these boards. The left screams about how bad Bush43 was (and they are correct), but then they make excuses or turn a blind eye to the corruption of Obama and his administration. They turn a blind eye to his lies and they make excuses for his campaign promises which never happened. They turn a blind eye to Obama's racism but they scream that the Republicans are racist. The left can't stomach the Tea Party which wants fiscal responsibility ... but yet they refuse to talk about the fact that Soros and the left wing Unions are the ones who are pushing that Occupy Wall Street garbage in America. Bash bash bash when a republican idiot comes to light (like Akin), but totally ignore the democrats when their idiots (like Ellen Barkin, Al Sharpton, J.Jackson Jr.) make themselves known.

So, Neo. I hate to tell ya' .. you are waiting with baited breathe ... but it won't happen.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by xavi1000
Obama is smaller evil .Period. If romney wins you will see hell on earth .Neocons are not human beings.


Yup. All of Romneys picks are Bushs' warmongers Neo-con Zionist team.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:24 AM
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I think it's funny that you think the guy who was the first to use Obamacare is actually going to repeal it. It was from a right-wing thinktank after all. Obama initially wanted a public option, Republicans in the senate would not have that, so they came up with Obamacare.



The only thing Romney might repeal is the part that actually helps the little people. Like the able part that says people under 26 can stay on their parents insurance. And that insurance companies cannot deny you for pre-existing conditions.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:24 AM
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So you are a left wing basher?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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I know I'll get a lot of attacks for saying this. Clinton has the most responsibility for this recession.


Originally posted by RELDDIR
reply to post by RealSpoke
 


If Obama says ACA was a mistake and wants to repeal it. I will vote for Obama. Just for the record, Obama is my favorite Democrat and Clinton is my least liked Democrat. History will be kind to Obama.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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ACA PASSED WITH ZERO (0) REPUBLICAN SUPPORT IN CONGRESS (BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE)


Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by RELDDIR
 


I think it's funny that you think the guy who was the first to use Obamacare is actually going to repeal it. It was from a right-wing thinktank after all. Obama initially wanted a public option, Republicans in the senate would not have that, so they came up with Obamacare.



The only thing Romney might repeal is the part that actually helps the little people. Like the able part that says people under 26 can stay on their parents insurance. And that insurance companies cannot deny you for pre-existing conditions.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:29 AM
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No, Clinton and the Repbublicans that were in congress at the time played a huge part in the 2008 crash by repealing the Glass Stegal Act.

Only 5 out of the 200 republicans in congress at the time voted to NOT repeal, and they wrote the bill.


When Clinton signed the Republican repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, he planted the seed that grew into the housing bubble crash and the need to bail out Wall Street - and the Democrats have been left to reap that crop.


gaanderson.hubpages.com...



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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Stop the blaming. Clinton has executive powers, he could have stopped anything from passing Congress.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by RELDDIR
 


No, Clinton and the Repbublicans that were in congress at the time played a huge part in the 2008 crash by repealing the Glass Stegal Act.

Only 5 out of the 200 republicans in congress at the time voted to NOT repeal, and they wrote the bill.


When Clinton signed the Republican repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, he planted the seed that grew into the housing bubble crash and the need to bail out Wall Street - and the Democrats have been left to reap that crop.


gaanderson.hubpages.com...



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Because they know it would pass regardless. It's all in the plan. Now they get to pretend like they hate Obamacare. Even though I know that Obama is much of a corporatist as much as they are.




posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:33 AM
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Um, I'm blaming both of them because it is accurate. Republicans wrote the bill, Clinton signed it.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
Clinton has the most responsibility for this recession.

I don't think so. Not 'mostly' ....

Bush43 and Obama are responsible and all the 'others' who contributed like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi .... ALAN GREENSPAN ... Bernie Madoff .. AMERICANS WHO OVERREACHED and then wanted a free ride and for their fellow Americans to pay for their greed ....



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by neo96
I wait with baited breath that those people who did not waste any time "pointing" out the errors of the evil Republicans and do the same to the Democrats. The DNC convention is up and coming and I want to see those critics hold their own party to the same standards they set for the Republicans This week.

That won't happen.

For the past four years we've seen it all over these boards. The left screams about how bad Bush43 was (and they are correct), but then they make excuses or turn a blind eye to the corruption of Obama and his administration. They turn a blind eye to his lies and they make excuses for his campaign promises which never happened.


You're wrong, quite blatantly.

You can go back through all of my political posts on ATS and you'll see that my opinion of Obama is not a good one.

I regularly point out his failings (but seriously, racism? That's just deluded) and I agree wholeheartedly that Obama did more to destroy trust in government than any president before him. He made promises that he couldn't or wouldn't keep. The "hope" was hyped up to ridiculous degrees.

BUT, you have a two party system. You either vote left or you vote right.

Regardless of the opinions of national health care, or your opinions on Obama's failings, would you rather support a party that has now been caught ON CAMERA rigging their OWN party systems?

Do you not think that you are cutting off your nose to spite your face?

What is more important here, having a government that makes a decision you don't agree with, but will actually not affect you that much (and might actually work, as it does in other nations using similar national healthcare systems), or supporting a party that has proven to be corrupt, religiously led and supportive of the wealthy over everyone else?

Would you rather hand power to a party that has been proven, over and over again, to be supportive of the rich, while abusing the poor? Would you really support a party that has spoken out against Americans, has plans to force their religious ideals onto others and to enact laws affecting millions of people adversely, and all simply because you think Obama didn't do enough?

I fully accept that Obama has failed in many respects. But the idea that people would support the Republican party and all that this entails just because of a few things they don't agree with from Obama, well that's just stupid!



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:49 AM
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After reading a few threads about the last week that was nothing more than bash the evil righties I wait with baited breath that those people who did not waste any time "pointing" out the errors of the evil Republicans


Get over it. Jesus Christ, have you ever even been to an article linked by the Drudge Report or been on Breitbarts website? GET OVER IT



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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That was the Tea Party before it got hijacked and the message got cloudier and cloudier


The Tea Party was never hijacked nor was it ever grass roots. It was always ALWAYS bankrolled by the Koch brothers. This propaganda about it being "hijacked" started going around once people noticed it was the Kochs that was behind it.

The Tea Party is the modern day Business Plot minus the coup de tat.



edit on 1-9-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


No the tea party hasn't always been bank rolled by the Koch brothers. It was started by Ron Paul and when the Koch brothers became involved he washed his hands of it.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 07:04 AM
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Poor Neo your having such a hard time boo hoo welcome to the club. It's not the Dems fault the Repubs made no effort to hide the corruption at the convention. If you want to cry about it then whine to the repubs for them being so stupid.

And with as many threads you make bashing the left you are a hypocrite for complaining when someone from the left does the same thing.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by detachedindividual
You're wrong, quite blatantly.

No .. I"m correct. The left has a VERY hard time accepting that Obama and his administration are just like the republicans that they say they hate so much. Your post was a perfect example.

You can go back through all of my political posts on ATS and you'll see that my opinion of Obama is not a good one.

Funny ... you say this but then go on to side with the dems when in fact they are, in their own way, just as bad as the republicans.


Originally posted by detachedindividual
(but seriously, racism? That's just deluded)

But seriously, YES RACISM. To say it's not there is just deluded.
Perfect example of what I was talking about. Thank you for providing it.
ATS Thread - Obama's Church Not Your Average Christian Church


But the idea that people would support the Republican party and all that this entails just because of a few things they don't agree with from Obama, well that's just stupid!

Wanna' start throwing around the 'stupid' word. Okay.
- People disagree with Obama for more than 'a few things'. To say it's 'just a few things' is stupid.
- But the idea that people would support Obama and all his administration entails just because of a few things they dont' agree with .. well, that's just stupid! gee .. I can say it too! That makes just as much sense (none) as when you said the mirror image of it.




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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by neo96
I wait with baited breath that those people who did not waste any time "pointing" out the errors of the evil Republicans and do the same to the Democrats. The DNC convention is up and coming and I want to see those critics hold their own party to the same standards they set for the Republicans This week.

That won't happen.

For the past four years we've seen it all over these boards. The left screams about how bad Bush43 was (and they are correct), but then they make excuses or turn a blind eye to the corruption of Obama and his administration. They turn a blind eye to his lies and they make excuses for his campaign promises which never happened. They turn a blind eye to Obama's racism but they scream that the Republicans are racist. The left can't stomach the Tea Party which wants fiscal responsibility ... but yet they refuse to talk about the fact that Soros and the left wing Unions are the ones who are pushing that Occupy Wall Street garbage in America. Bash bash bash when a republican idiot comes to light (like Akin), but totally ignore the democrats when their idiots (like Ellen Barkin, Al Sharpton, J.Jackson Jr.) make themselves known.

So, Neo. I hate to tell ya' .. you are waiting with baited breathe ... but it won't happen.



Lol most of Obama's policies have been nothing but an extension of Bush's policies so next time you want to cry about a policy make sure it's really Obama's. The tea party in no way wants fiscal responsibility because their owners the Koch brothers want nothing to do with it. If they really cared about responsibility they would want all the corporate welfare to end along with the tax breaks companies get for moving overseas. Did you ever see the tea party saying any of these things? No just more stop regulations and end corporate taxes. The left doesn't hate the tea party they pity the tea party for being so easily used. The unions are not pushing OWS they are joining it because they are out of work also and OWS had been going on for a while before the unions joined so to say they are pushing it is just ignorance to the facts.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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I think there is something that needs to be remembered. To the current GOP crop of 2012, Richard Nixon would be a communist. What we are seeing now is something approaching nazisim. The moderates of the party are being pushed out by far right wing extremists. I say this as an objective observer. I think a lot of people used to be able to identify with some conservative positions, myself included. But the platform now seems to be anti labor, anti environment, anti science, anti civil rights, and pro corporate. They are hostile to every program that helps the average person, and they embrace an ideology that promotes plutocracy. To them, anyone who disagrees with them is either a leftist or a socialist. They are alienating a lot of people with their level of extremism and I think its going to show up in the election results (unless its a Deibold win again). Also, I dont think a lot of democrats are crazy about Obama, but to them he is the only alternative to the lunatic fringe that has taken over the republican party. Its sort of like having to chose between drinking vinegar or poison. Most people dont want to drink vinegar but they will take it over poison. And lastly, I dont think ANYONE is going to vote for candidates who want to remove social security and medicaid, in an economy where people are just barely making it to begin with and cant save for retirement.
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
most of Obama's policies have been nothing but an extension of Bush's policies so next time you want to cry about a policy make sure it's really Obama's.

That's exactly my point. There is no real difference between the substantive Bush and Obama policies. And yet the left continually hugs Obama and blasts Bush. But they are same/same.

The left doesn't hate the tea party they pity the tea party for being so easily used.

... and yet the left can't see that Soros and the Unions are using them with Occupy Wall Street. So like I said ... same/same. The left trashes the Tea Party (which was hijacked by the extreme right) but then makes excuses for Occupy Wall Street. Same/Same.

The unions are not pushing OWS they are joining it

That's funny. The big unions are backing it. The union members are joing it.
They are all pushing it. That's just the truth of the matter.

to say they are pushing it is just ignorance to the facts.

To say they aren't pushing it is just partisan and ignorance to the facts.
Thank you for providing yet another perfect example of what I was talking about.
The left hits the right up on things .. but then makes excuses and fails to see that
they are doing the exact same thing that the right does. Mirror image. Same/same.

Capital Research Center - Left Winger George Soros Funds Occupy Wall Street
3.6 Million from Left Wing Soros supports Occupy Wall Street
OWS Finance Team

Some protestors have questioned the finance committee’s dealings with Amalgamated Bank, which is owned by unions but recently made a deal to sell shares to billionaires Wilbur Ross and Ron Burkle, as well as Magic Johnson.* It is also currently the subject of an FDIC consent order. “Why is OWS putting people's donations into the corrupt banking system?” asked one occupier. Others still are concerned about a lack of fiscal transparency. The inaugural financial report hasn't placated the naysayers: Some occupiers want a continuously updated open spreadsheet. “Listen, this money is in an account, somewhere,” one wrote recently on the occupation’s official forum. “Start by posting that statement/downloadable item, daily. Protect us, before this becomes a problem?

The OWS Money goes to Amalgamated Bank - The Largest UNION Bank
AFL-CIO Blowing Union Money on OWS Movement
Corrupt ACORN Playing Behind Scenes Role in Occupy Movement


NYCC’s connection to ACORN isn’t a tenuous one: It works from the former ACORN offices in Brooklyn, uses old ACORN office stationery, employs much of the old ACORN staff and, according to several sources, engages in some of the old organization’s controversial techniques to raise money, interest and awareness for the protests.

Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day - to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.

At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests


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