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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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If I remember correctly, when the ATS community was polled over who their choice for leader would be. Ron Paul won by a country mile. He is without doubt a Right wing conservative. Not a lefty in Anyway. The vast majority of posts about politicians on ats are about Ron Paul, not any left leaning candidate. So I would say the majority of people who have been slagging off the RNC convention are most likely Ron Paul supporters who feel they have been sidelined by the party in place of a candidate that has been chosen for them, by the establishment. Not Democrats

I imagine most leftists don't care. There is no representation for leftists on the Political spectrum . Obama is bought and paid for and has presided over a Wall Street government.He has not kept any promises and has continued many of Bushes policies. No lefty in their right minds would support this.




posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 02:55 AM
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Anyways I was RIGHT. The Kochs have been aiding the TP the entire time.


Americans for Prosperity has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement’s inception. In the weeks before the first Tax Day protests, in April, 2009, Americans for Prosperity hosted a Web site offering supporters “Tea Party Talking Points.” The Arizona branch urged people to send tea bags to Obama; the Missouri branch urged members to sign up for “Taxpayer Tea Party Registration” and provided directions to nine protests. The group continues to stoke the rebellion. The North Carolina branch recently launched a “Tea Party Finder” Web site, advertised as “a hub for all the Tea Parties in North Carolina.”


www.newyorker.com...



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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Yeah.....the "awful" party that wants to save this country from the likes of socialists backed by non US citizens such as Soros. We have a constitution and we won't let commie, Marxist nut cases who think Europe is better, destroy it....some day you will thank us for that...unless you want to live under a dictatorship or monarchy or god knows what.

If you think there is a better form of government than that set up under our original constitution, then move there.

(And don't pull out the old tired slavery argument, because that is not what any of us want)

When we say the original constitution we mean the SMALL government, no fed etc constitution.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
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Sure, it was hijacked, happy?

Maybe I was wrong, will have to research again. But like I said Ron Paul is bankrolled by billionaire bilderberg steering committee Peter Theil, so it isn't really anything to be proud of.




Like I said, former RP supporter too.....


Fact of the matter is this. MANY people in the Tea Party movement, are and were INDEPENDENT. I know personally, EX-Democrats and Republicans that want nothing from their former Parties. Those labels really mean nothing. The "real" Tea Party member's are not seeing Republican or Democrat. They are looking for CHANGE. Screw the Labels.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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www.democracynow.org...

The Romney/Koch handshake at the convention. I wonder what the Koch's will want in return for the millions they have donated to the campaign.


Romney shaking hands further down the aisle as he ascended the stage. Groups in the network of David Koch, and his brother Charles, intend to spend nearly $400 million ahead of the 2012 election.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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When Bush signed TARP, I quit the GOP and joined the Tea Party.

Also changed my registration to "Indy".



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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Wow, you really dont read anything posted do you?

The first original TP get together was FEB. 2009......


I am done with you....every time I talk to you, I regret it, you will never listen to anything but what your brainwashers say.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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You should read what socialism and communism is. I can't speak to ignorance. Oh and read the wealth of nations while you're at it too.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:01 AM
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In all fairness, I found source references to Realspokes statements here but am still researching to see if I can corroborate, compare, and fact check - things I likely won't get to tonight.

So, let me clarify, for the sake of honesty... I was in agreement with the ideals expressed by the initial grass roots movement that became referred to as "The Tea Party" early on in the process... from watching interviews of actual protesters and agreeing with the things they were saying.

I lost my interest when I began to see hints of troubling things like racism, elitism, and a general fear in those same "from the field" interviews. The night I lost total interest was a night when I saw a biker/veteran Tea Party guy interviewed and he made a comments to the effect that he was not going to let "them" "steal" his "Social Security and Medicare". My immediate thought was "Who is 'them' and why are you calling 'them' 'leeches' when you, yourself are receiving these things?" I suddenly realized that this guy was basically saying "I got mine and to Hell with you getting yours." And it offended me.

As I discuss openly and often, I was diagnosed with PTSD and Bipolar disorder quite a long time ago. I always took pride in working, supporting myself and my family, and being productive - in spite of my problems. But I also volunteer at a local mental health clinic, and have for a very long time. I saw first hand who "them" were. People with extreme disabilities who looked normal, on the outside, but who simply could not function in society with any degree of success. This is where my ideals of social responsibility and my humanitarian side was born. I could no longer live by the credo that "Real men support themselves, so to Hell with those who won't try". I saw, with my own eyes, the frustration and pain on the faces of decent people who wanted so badly to do the right thing, but who simply couldn't.

This began my disillusionment with conservatism and the rhetoric that sometimes comes from the far right. We have a culture where you have to be a square peg or a round peg. Period. Cookie cutter specifications for a cookie cutter society. And, if you happen to be a bit misshapen? Well tough luck. In being around some of the folks who didn't fit the mold I quickly realized that they weren't failing society, society had failed them. They had things to offer the world - but, because they didn't fit the right shape, they were prevented ( or at least severely inhibited ) from doing so.

I've gone a long way around the bush to make my point because I wanted to explain, fully, why I strongly need to make it.

I do not identify myself with any party label. I don't care you if you call me a libtard and start a national libtard movement in my honor... if the policies and morals of that movement match my sense of right and wrong I'll gladly vote for any and all libtard candidates that run for office. The name of the party matters not - It's what they stand for that means something. And, for awhile, the Tea Party seemed to be saying the things I wanted to hear.

~Heff



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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And I suppose Obama owes nothing to Soros, Buffet etc??

You're funny....



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by sonnny1
 


When Bush signed TARP, I quit the GOP and joined the Tea Party.

Also changed my registration to "Indy".


Tarp was paid back altho where is that money now?

www.housingwire.com...

Bush spent 5 trillion in 8 years?

The current dude spent 6 in 3 ?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:04 AM
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I have schooled YOU in previous threads and proved to you, you are wrong about Socialism...so you go study...like I said...you like that kind of government go live there....no one is stopping you.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:04 AM
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Alright, so it got taken over a few months after its inception.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by sonnny1
 


When Bush signed TARP, I quit the GOP and joined the Tea Party.

Also changed my registration to "Indy".


I went Independent, long before that.



Funny how everyone thinks the Independents vote is for the GOP.

52% will tell you they voted for Obama, last election. WHY?

Because of the Change, he promised.


Funny how the Label doesn't fit, after seeing that, hey?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:06 AM
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I understand what you mean Heff. Sometimes I'd wish people would give a damn.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:07 AM
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I have schooled YOU in previous threads and proved to you, you are wrong about Socialism...so you go study...like I said...you like that kind of government go live there....no one is stopping you.


You can't school me on something you don;t understand...sorry...lol



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:09 AM
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I am enoying this better than WWE lol



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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reply to post by sonnny1
 


Why are you a former RP supporter?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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You are freaking kidding me right??

You actually post that as a credible source?

It was written by a civil liberties liberal and the New York Times.

I already posted the proof from the woman who had the first TP event.

And it was a result of Rick Santelli's tirade on HNN or whatever channel it was...I was actually watching his broadcast at the time....so I am also a first hand witness as are millions of others. And it most certainly was grass roots, just little groups getting together in cities and towns around the country.
The first one here in Albany, NY in the spring of 2009 had maybe 100 people.....no Koch money or any money.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 03:11 AM
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