reply to post by SaturnFX
I note you're using the information supplied by the Office of the Democrat Leader (and the graph states the source as the Treasury Department);
however, the chart is dated May, 2011. To say the information is outdated is a gross exaggeration.
There is a June, 2012 blog article about the matter in
e Washington Post
which provides charts and numbers; however, though the Post is a reputable source, the article is a blog and the information
comes from Crossroads GPS
. I don't know anything about this group other than their 'about' page indicates
they are 'a policy and grassroots advocacy organization' but a brief look through doesn't indicate if they are hard left, hard right or balanced in
Crossroads GPS offered this explanation for their claim:
January 20, 2009: The National Debt Was $10,626,877,048,913.08 (Obama Takes Office). (Treasury Department, accessed 5/23/12)
May 22, 2012: The National Debt Was $15,721,218,607,447.09 (Most Recent). (Treasury Department, accessed 5/23/12)
Obama Has Been In Office For 1,219 Days (1/20/09-5/22/12). (Convert Units, accessed 5/17/12)
$5,094,341,558,534.01 ÷ 1,219 Days = $4,179,115,306/Day
So, while I wish I could find something more current from a generally accepted reliable source, the most current information from such a source that I
can find is from March, 2012:
National Debt has increased
more under Obama than under Bush
Thankfully, it is published by CBS and they tend to lean a little more favorably toward President Obama so, if anything, it is slanted in his favor -
which is good for this rebuttal.
I apologize for not knowing how to embed it; however, there is a chart at the link, since you requested "any response should be met with numbers."
According to the article:
The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took
The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626
trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day.
The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation's Gross Domestic Product, the total value of goods and services.
The article ends with this paragraph:
If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his
second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
Though I was certainly NO fan of him, President Bush upped the debt by "only" $4.899 trillion, which would put Obama just *barely* under doubling
Bush's increase in the debt IF he sticks with his current budget. I posit that there will be no way to stick with his current budget with the
increasing wars and the as yet 'surprise' expenses that will begin to make themselves known once all the aspects of the Affordable Care Act come into
I urge you not to miss the article and to give the chart it provides some attention, as well.
As you, I don't have much appreciation for 'adjusted truths,' either; therefore, I've striven to provide a more accurate picture of the debt scenario
under President Obama.
I would respectfully request you to defend your statement of President Obama having "reigned over the least amount of government in ages." To me, he
seems just as guilty as the past several. =(
edit on 1-9-2012 by SeesFar because: typo; probably more of them; sorry