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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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reply to post by FlyersFan
 


You've ignored my points, and tried to twist what I have clearly stated in the post. I DO NOT AGREE WITH OBAMA, BUT HE IS MUCH BETTER THAN A REPUBLICAN NUT CASE!

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?


But, I should have accepted such from a Republican - ignore the facts, twist the argument, refuse the truth, sing a happy tune and pretend that all the facts will go away.

You've just witnessed you OWN PARTY changing the rules to suit the rich politicians over all others. You've seen their blatant corruption and lies for yourself, and you STILL support them.

I'm starting to wonder if "blind faith" is applied not only to the religious views many Republicans hold, but also to their ridiculous political choices too. Forever ignoring the facts laid out right in front of them, irrefutable evidence of the intention and motivations of a political party, and still people swallow the BS like holy wine at a communion.

It's absolutely astounding.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Actually I think most of the people bashing the right wing were actually right wingers. We are actual conservatives bashing the GOP for allowing a candidate to change the rules. A CANDIDATE that should have NO POWER now has all the power to pick delegates, bind them to them, and kill all future grass roots movements. One day you will see how this effects us. Ronald Reagan wouldn't have been president if someone had enacted the rules Romney has now put in place.

The shut out Ron Paul's delegates, the stole their signs, the censored his name, they removed his delegation, they wouldn't let him speak. The GOP is doomed to split and fail.

Why would you see the same at the DNC? They are just picking Obama again. What does it matter?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Clint Eastwood was a car wreck !


He ranted at Obama and Biden.


Clint Eastwood attracted millions of people to watch the RNC Convention and proved to them all what a freakshow the party is !

edit on 1-9-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)


Fixed to be more accurate and to reflect reality as 99% of the Human population saw it.

BTW, do you have any comment on the teleprompter incident where the opinions of the people in attendance was completely ignored? Just asking



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Uniceft17

Originally posted by RELDDIR
reply to post by RELDDIR
 


Republicans are a one-sided coin, Make Money Period. Democrats are a two-sided coin, make just enough money...then redistribute the money asap.


Bottom line, Obama and Romney are both going to raise the debt and continue spending at the same levels, Romeny wants to spend more on the military Obama wants to spend more on social policies, so tell me how are our core problems going to be changed under either of them. They aren't.


The sad reality well stated, Uniceft17.

"Our ‘two party system’ is smoke and mirrors. In reality it is the functional equivalent of a coin—-it wears two faces, but it has only one value no matter which side is up." - T.S. Anderson



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Implying the President is a leftist is laughable. I challenge anyone to list what leftist things he's tried to do, much less done. By historical standards, he is right of center. By western standards he is conservative. Leftists are supposed to be socialists right, and even communists if you go further left.

Well, most all Obama's actions have been massive give away TO big business. If he was socialist, he'd be nationalizing business.

- Obamacare. Huge giveaway to the insurance conglomerate. In the law there is no element of government control over people's care.
- Afghanistan. He just continues Bush's policies here, which dumps hundreds of billions into the Mil/Intel industry.
- Finance. His DOJ has not prosecuted ANY leading figures and only tossed out some token fines that the big banks then write off and represent simply a minor cost of doing business -- an investment if you will. Were he socialist, he'd have nationalized the banks, not given them more power and let them consolidate even more.
- Energy. He invested in alternative start-ups like Solyndra (a plan which was put together by the Bush administration). As Romney said in his own speech, business is both about failing and succeeding, the key thing is to try. Well, we did with Solyndra (and others). Were he socialist, he would have nationalized the big energy giants. Instead, production in oil, natural gas, coal and wind have ALL increased under Obama leading to our lowest dependency of foreign energy in the modern era. Meanwhile, oil company's profit has hit record levels under Obama and their cash position is the best its ever been. How is that socialist? Well the big oil subsidies ARE corporate socialism, but name me a Republican clammering to kill those?
- NDAA, expansion of the Patriot Act, 4x the drones killings of Bush. Where's the soft on terror, for the people "socialism." That's far closer to fascism and the Right are his greatest champions in this effort, with support of many Democrats.

So where's the socialism. Let me guess, you are going to trot out "social issues" (read: things the Right Christians regard as aganst the Bible), like ending Don't Ask, Don't Tell, support of gay marriage, etc.

To the Right, "socialism" means "things the Bible is [supposedly] against." Other than that, the idea that Obama is a socialist is the most ignorant of jokes.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by SeesFar

Originally posted by Uniceft17

Originally posted by RELDDIR
reply to post by RELDDIR
 


Republicans are a one-sided coin, Make Money Period. Democrats are a two-sided coin, make just enough money...then redistribute the money asap.


Bottom line, Obama and Romney are both going to raise the debt and continue spending at the same levels, Romeny wants to spend more on the military Obama wants to spend more on social policies, so tell me how are our core problems going to be changed under either of them. They aren't.


The sad reality well stated, Uniceft17.

"Our ‘two party system’ is smoke and mirrors. In reality it is the functional equivalent of a coin—-it wears two faces, but it has only one value no matter which side is up." - T.S. Anderson


I absolutely agree.
And based on what I have seen, I would personally rather choose the more level-headed and sane side of the coin - the lesser of two evils. They might be the same on the large issues when it comes to their puppetry, but there are a lot of smaller issues that directly affect people too, and Republicans will attack minorities and the poor.

It comes down to one basic thing, given that no one has the choice to make it a real democratic system right now (even though we know both are the same, this isn't going to change any time soon) do you vote for the ones who will do the same but not attack minorities and the poor, or do you vote in a party proven to be on the verge of being a fully-fledged dictatorship?



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by neo96
 


The Leftists next week will swoon over the oratory skills emitting from the pie-holes of the idiots speaking of everything but;
the economy, unemployment, GDP, consumer confidence, the war in Afghanistan, Obama's kill-list, raising taxes, cost of food increases, cost of gas increases, Hurricane Issac, drones in AMerican skies, UN tax decrees, ACA, ad nauseum.

Everything you're complaining about concerning the Democrats, Bush did THE EXACT SAME THING. America wouldn't be in a war right now in Afghanistan if it wasn't for Bush. The economy wouldn't be in the mess it's in if it wasn't for Bush and his war effort(not to mention the Pentagon losing trillions of dollars before 911 even happened) . How about hurricane Katrina?? Remember how well your boy Bush handled that one? I guess not since most republicans I know have a real short attention span and can't see past four years ago

And again the government has done a swell job at dividing up the nation. Now we keep bickering at one another which completely distracts us from the real threats to this nation. They keep us thinking that there is actually a difference between the left and right.
You my friend have lost the game. So keep making this a left and right thing. Keep throwing anger at your neighbors instead of fighting to take our nation back from crooks. You are doing exactly what they want you to do.
edit on 1-9-2012 by intrepid because: Insult removed.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Clint Eastwood was outstanding !


He blasted Obama and Biden.


Clint Eastwood attracted millions of people to watch the RNC Convention and hit a home run !

edit on 1-9-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)


Clint Eastwood: Lawyers as President? Not a ‘Good Idea’
Mitt Romney: Harvard Lawyer
yep.


anyhow, now comes the list
#2 — John Adams (Harvard, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#3 — Thomas Jefferson (College of William & Mary, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#4 — James Madison (College of New Jersey — now Princeton — then read law)
#6 — John Quincy Adams (Harvard, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#7 — Andrew Jackson (self-taught lawyer)
#8 — Martin Van Buren (Kinderhook Academy, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#10 — John Tyler (College of William & Mary, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#11 — James Polk (University of North Carolina, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#13 — Millard Fillmore (clerked for and studied under New York Judge Walter Wood)
#14 — Franklin Pierce (Bowdoin College, then studied law)
#15 — James Buchanan (Dickinson College, then studied law)
#16 — Abraham Lincoln (No formal education, a self-taught lawyer)
#19 — Rutherford Hayes (Kenyon College, Harvard law)
#21 — Chester Arthur (Union College, then studied law)
#22 — Grover Cleveland (apprenticed as a lawyer)
#23 — Benjamin Harrison (Miami University in Ohio, then studied law)
#25 — William McKinley (Allegheny College, Albany law)
#27 — William Howard Taft (Yale, Cincinnati law)
#28 — Woodrow Wilson (College of New Jersey — now Princeton — then UVA law)
#30 — Calvin Coolidge (Amherst, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#32 — Franklin Roosevelt (Harvard, Columbia law)
#37 — Richard Nixon (Whittier College, Duke law)
#38 — Gerald Ford (University of Michigan, Yale law)
#42 — Bill Clinton (Georgetown University, Yale law)
#44 — Barack Obama (Columbia, Harvard law)



edit on 1-9-2012 by intrepid because: Insult removed.

edit on Sat Sep 1 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: Mod Note: Big Quote



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by pluginkid
America wouldn't be in a war right now in Afghanistan if it wasn't for Bush.


disagree a bit here.
I think we would. can't lose towers and not kick some butt. Afghanistan was bipartisan agreed upon to "get em!".

Iraq however would have been ignored.

I am wondering why suddenly the right wing is against Afghanistan...they basically were calling anyone against the war in Afghanistan anti-american/western for even bringing up the argument..suddenly a new potus comes into power and they turn into hippys? heh

They think for some stupid reason that Obama promised that Afghanistan would be ended when he took office, when what Obama said was stop Iraq and put focus back on Afghanistan where we do have rights to and sort of our mess we have to clean up.

Not sure if its a flat out lie, or they just are still not up on the facts (its been over 3 years, you would think they would read up on the promise).

but ya, we need to draw down now. Osama is gone, mission finally accomplished, train the police and get out.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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Just like Romney was hand-picked months ago, if not a year ago, to be the RNC nominee, the next President has been pre-determined as well.

You need to understand one thing; the left in this country doesn't care about anything but "winning". Their candidate could be Hitler and they would still want him to "win". They think the election is the Super Bowl. Win, win, win, no matter the consequences. The reason is simple; if the president sucks, they can still look to the government for a bail out. Those dependent on the government despise anybody who will make them "learn how to fish" instead of just "giving them a fish". They hate that ideology. They truly view the government as their keeper and savior.

Very soon, the failed (but intentional) policies of the loser in the White House will start to affect the liberals in this country. They will see their healthcare insurance attacked, their rights violated and freedoms eroded. Eventually the chickens DO come home to roost and those on the left who think they are immune to the leftist policies are going to get a great, big kick in the ****s.

Finally, think of the mentality of Obama's voting base; the woman who believed Obama would pay her mortgage and buy her gas for her car. People lined up in Detroit to get some "Obama Money", which they had no idea where it was coming from. The people interviewed and asked, "Do you think Sara Palin was a good pick for Obama's running mate" and they responded, "Yes, absolutely. I think she'll do a good job". This is the mentality of a huge portion of the Democrat voting bloc. Why do you think Obama gave 11th hour amnesty to millions of illegals? Do you really think it was about "compassion"? LOL! I don't think so. He doesn't have a compassionate bone in his body. He's a narcissist. The left will take votes wherever they can get them. They are the dregs of our democratic system (ok, limited republic for all you moronic nitpickers). Obama is literally dredging the swamp for any scum he find at the bottom who might put a check next to his name without having a clue what they are voting for.

Trying to debate or hold an intelligent conversation with the left is would be like trying to reason with the Rain Man.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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It'll be, "We didn't screw you over well enough the first 4 years, give us a little more time to totally urinate over your rights and freedoms."

Oh wait, you said that, HOPE v2.0.





Right! 8 year of the same failed policies driven bu the same people who advise the government......

The left/right march of the Repos and Dumbos is nothing more than "Hopeless Change"

both parties suck for the average person.....



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Best Clint Eastwood lines:

- We own this country.


( That one really has the socialists bewildered !)


- When someone does not do the job, you got to let them go.

( Bye...bye....Obama)

edit on 1-9-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Clint Eastwood was outstanding !


He blasted Obama and Biden.


Clint Eastwood attracted millions of people to watch the RNC Convention and hit a home run !

edit on 1-9-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)


Clint Eastwood: Lawyers as President? Not a ‘Good Idea’
Mitt Romney: Harvard Lawyer
yep.


anyhow, now comes the list
#2 — John Adams (Harvard, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#3 — Thomas Jefferson (College of William & Mary, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#4 — James Madison (College of New Jersey — now Princeton — then read law)
#6 — John Quincy Adams (Harvard, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#7 — Andrew Jackson (self-taught lawyer)
#8 — Martin Van Buren (Kinderhook Academy, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#10 — John Tyler (College of William & Mary, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#11 — James Polk (University of North Carolina, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#13 — Millard Fillmore (clerked for and studied under New York Judge Walter Wood)
#14 — Franklin Pierce (Bowdoin College, then studied law)
#15 — James Buchanan (Dickinson College, then studied law)
#16 — Abraham Lincoln (No formal education, a self-taught lawyer)
#19 — Rutherford Hayes (Kenyon College, Harvard law)
#21 — Chester Arthur (Union College, then studied law)
#22 — Grover Cleveland (apprenticed as a lawyer)
#23 — Benjamin Harrison (Miami University in Ohio, then studied law)
#25 — William McKinley (Allegheny College, Albany law)
#27 — William Howard Taft (Yale, Cincinnati law)
#28 — Woodrow Wilson (College of New Jersey — now Princeton — then UVA law)
#30 — Calvin Coolidge (Amherst, then apprenticed as a lawyer)
#32 — Franklin Roosevelt (Harvard, Columbia law)
#37 — Richard Nixon (Whittier College, Duke law)
#38 — Gerald Ford (University of Michigan, Yale law)
#42 — Bill Clinton (Georgetown University, Yale law)
#44 — Barack Obama (Columbia, Harvard law)



edit on 1-9-2012 by intrepid because: Insult removed.

edit on Sat Sep 1 2012 by DontTreadOnMe because: Mod Note: Big Quote


It was a ridiculous comment, wasn't it? But everything he said was out there. I still love Clint though.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:29 PM
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posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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That's one. We are serious people.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


Best Clint Eastwood lines:

- We own this country.


( That one really has the socialists bewildered !)


- When someone does not do the job, you got to let them go.

( Bye...bye....Obama)

edit on 1-9-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)


Oddly, the first thing that popped in to my mind when Clint said, "WE own this country!" was an image of America pre white man. It hit me to wonder why white people (I am one) think in terms of owning everything. We die, our stuff is still there. Seems to me, most of us are owned by our things -- debts on our homes, credit cards, credit loans, etc. Perhaps the most free, truly, are those who own nothing at all. Sure would be nice if our reflex was to think we are stewards of the world around us, not owners free to exploit. ...I am just being philosophical here and wondering and I understood Clint's point.



posted on Sep, 1 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by detachedindividual

Originally posted by SeesFar
The sad reality well stated, Uniceft17.

"Our ‘two party system’ is smoke and mirrors. In reality it is the functional equivalent of a coin—-it wears two faces, but it has only one value no matter which side is up." - T.S. Anderson


I absolutely agree.
And based on what I have seen, I would personally rather choose the more level-headed and sane side of the coin - the lesser of two evils. They might be the same on the large issues when it comes to their puppetry, but there are a lot of smaller issues that directly affect people too, and Republicans will attack minorities and the poor.

It comes down to one basic thing, given that no one has the choice to make it a real democratic system right now (even though we know both are the same, this isn't going to change any time soon) do you vote for the ones who will do the same but not attack minorities and the poor, or do you vote in a party proven to be on the verge of being a fully-fledged dictatorship?


I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that one of the parties is 'more level-headed and sane' than the other. I read some of your reasoning, but believe there has to be more.

You say "based on what you've seen;" i would ask: what have you seen and for how long have you seen it? Do you believe we are in the condition we're in due to the amount of time the Republicans have been in a position of power, for example?



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