Republican voting restrictions in Ohio blocked by judge, page 1

Some of the most unbelievably biased voting restrictions in modern history have been temporarily blocked by a judge. I still can't believe this ever passed in the first place, and why the American people aren't revolting over such blatantly unconstitutional theft of their voting rights.

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reply to post by CB328

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F&S for the OP!

This is good news indeed. We just got a similar ruling from the federal courts here in Texas with respect to ongoing attempts by our republican controlled state legislature to enact new voter ID laws prior to the November election.

This is a good thing because these new laws are nothing more than a solution in search of a problem that doesn't exist and are actually intended to do nothing more than suppress the vote. Evidence of actual "in-person" voter fraud is so infinitesimally small that even if all the known cases over the past 10 yrs. were thrown together into one individual political contest, I doubt it would be enough to sway the election. Furthermore, I believe that in reality these new voter ID laws and reduction in early voting days are nothing more than a smoke screen for the real widespread voter fraud that is being orchestrated across this nation within the electronic voting and counting system.

While I'll admit that IMO, the intelligence level of the typical TP/GOP republican is only slightly higher than that of a box of rocks, (I do however find them to be quite devious in nature) I find it hard to accept that their elected representatives are naive enough to believe that these new laws will hold up to constitutional scrutiny in the long run. Therefore, IMO there must be an underlying anterior motive to explain their actions.

I remember when Texas was a blue state and I agree that it was probably voter fraud that changed it to red. Problem is, it wasn't the kind of "in-person" voter fraud that these new laws are supposedly intended to eliminate, ha ha.

I'm convinced that the real voter fraud is taking place within the electronic voting machine system, including those electronic scanning machines that are used to record and count paper ballots. This is how they steal our elections and to my knowledge, there is very little being done to correct this "problem," or should I say, the real "voter fraud."

Don't be fooled into thinking that we've just won the voter fraud issue. We only won the part they intended for us to win while their real goal of keeping us occupied with these issues of voter suppression has kept us side tracked and prevented us from taking action to stop the real voter machine fraud being used to control the actual outcome of our elections.

I believe that in 2008, the only reason we were able to elect President Obama was due to the fact that the number of Obama supporters overwhelmed the fraud capacity programed into the machines. In other words, they, (the GOP) weren't expecting those kind of numbers to come out in favor of Obama. Anyone who would program fraud into the machines would have to keep the vote switching to a minimal level, (in order to evade detection) while just high enough to sway the election in their favor. I think the actual support for Obama was greater than the programers expected and this is why we won. I wouldn't expect them to make the same mistake again.

You know the old saying from Texas & Tennessee; "Fool me once..... Shame on..... Shame on you..... Fool me, you cain't get fooled again."

reply to post by CB328

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The only people who are revolting is the elite, they are truely revolting and disgusting. As for civil unrest or civil war, well thats up to us as a whole. We have a choice, accept the criminals as our leaders and let them do what they want with us or we remove them by force and steing em up.

The choice is simple, but as long as people have poisoned food on their plates they are happy, go figure the moronic behaviour of sheeple.

Originally posted by marg6043
But I don't get it, who is getting cheated, illegals trying to get register or regular citizens trying to be register.

Why I ask? I am not trying to be controversial but Here in Ga, I am a register voter since I move here in 96, I never have any problem with elections and I don't have to register every time elections comes, my name is always and has been active since the day I register for the first time.

Perhaps don't understand what all this is about.

I'll tell you who gets screwed, "everybody!" Here's how;

To impose a cost on voting is considered to be a "poll tax" under the U.S. Constitution and requiring voters to produce a voter ID costs them money. For instance, where I live it's 45 miles to the nearest DMV where I can get a government approved ID suitable for voting under the new statutes. That's a 90 mile road trip plus the cost of obtaining the ID from the state.

Now if you're talking about having the government pick up these costs and provide the required IDs at no expense to the voter, we may be talking about something that would indeed hold up to constitutional scrutiny but at what cost to the taxpayers? How often would these photo IDs need to be updated so that poll workers can identify the voter with his/her ID? What are the ongoing cost to the taxpayers?

Now for the most important question of all; How much "in-person" voter fraud is actually occurring in our elections and is it worth the anticipated cost of producing and maintaining photo IDs in order to eliminate it? Here's the answer to that question;

www.drudge.com...

Voter impersonation fraud, which could be prevented by the types of voter ID laws passed in Republican-led states the past few years, is virtually nonexistent, according to a new study. The investigative reporting project News21 sent public information requests to all 50 states and found 10 cases of alleged in-person voter fraud since 2000. Out of the 146 million registered voters in the U.S., that number represents one case of voter impersonation fraud for every 15 million potential voters.

www.motherjones.com...

The analysis of 2,068 reported fraud cases by News21, a Carnegie-Knight investigative reporting project, found 10 cases of alleged in-person voter impersonation since 2000.

www.rawstory.com...

“Voter fraud at the polls is an insignificant aspect of American elections,” said elections expert David Schultz, professor of public policy at Hamline University School of Business in St. Paul. “There is absolutely no evidence that (voter impersonation fraud) has affected the outcome of any election in the United States, at least any recent election in the United States.”

etc...etc...etc... There is no significant "in-person" voter fraud taking place in our elections! At least not enough to sway an election, much less enough to allocate millions, if not billions, of taxpayer dollars to produce voter IDs in an attempt to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

reply to post by Liquesence

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Voters Ids? I don't have a state approved Id, all I do when voting is give away either my drivers license or military ID as my husband is retired marine.

And this is Ga also, we just voted on local elections a few weeks ago and not specific ID was asked for, BTW I am Spanish and supposedly minority still not problems with voting, ever, been a register voter since 88.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Liquesence

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Voters Ids? I don't have a state approved Id, all I do when voting is give away either my drivers license or military ID as my husband is retired marine.

And this is Ga also, we just voted on local elections a few weeks ago and not specific ID was asked for, BTW I am Spanish and supposedly minority still not problems with voting, ever, been a voter since 89.

edit on 1-9-2012 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

Driver's license and military IDs are state approved/issued IDs.

The county i live in, i KNOW the people who head the polling places and i still have to show ID. Of course, i live in probably the biggest conservative county in GA, soo...

reply to post by Flatfish

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Thanks, I see now what is all about, passing the cost of IDs to the people, I do not agree with this either.

reply to post by Liquesence

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Thanks for taking your time to explain, but you know I still do not understand how in this time and age people can go around without some type of ID specially when you have to show identification for almost anything you do, from health care to cash checks or credit card or bank cards use.

reply to post by marg6043

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Citizens who become politically engaged for the
First time and New voters.

These laws were trying to create a precrime mentality.
Innocent voters are not guilty of the behaviors of
Evil doers.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Flatfish

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Thanks, I see now what is all about, passing the cost of IDs to the people, I do not agree with this either.

Every state passing voter ID has offered FREE ID including Georgia, so no its not a poll tax as some claim.

Ohio's legislature passed change removing early voting across the state. By federal law it had to continue offering early voting to active military members.

The shills are using the military vote as smokescreen to make their claims never acknowledging Ohio legislature was following federal voting requirements.

reply to post by Phoenix

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Actually yes it is. Because the cost of the ID in many cases is irrelevant, you have to include the costs of getting the supporting documentation to get said ID. So tell me just how screwed the woman that has a different name on SS card, and Birth Certificate is. That is even if you know exactly where it is you were born, or have a Birth Certificate at all. The fact is it is not really all that difficult to get by in life without a certified ID because so many that have one assume every one has a drivers license.

reply to post by KeliOnyx

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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
Because the cost of the ID in many cases is irrelevant, you have to include the costs of getting the supporting documentation to get said ID.

Plus the cost of getting to the approved state building to get an ID. Not everyone can jump in their car (that they don't own) and fill it up with gas (with money they don't have) and take a day off work to toodle on over the the state capital or other major city.

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