reply to post by Oceanborn
I had to create an account just to point out how ridiculous you sound. Jesus on multiple occasions pointed to the Old Testament and referred to it as
the law. In Matthew 22:31 he asks "Have you not read that which was spoken to you by God?". Not only does that provide proof that he found merit in
the Old Testament, it also strongly implies that you better find merit and read it too! In Matthew 21:16 he literally quotes Psalm 8:2.
In Luke 10:25-28 Jesus points out that the law (10 commandments) are still valid and the key to life eternal.
"All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" 2 Timothy 3:16.
When that was written, the Old Testament was the only Judao-Christian scripture in existence.
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid" Luke 16:17. The only law
Jesus can be addressing here is the Old Testament law.
"Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" is from Matthew 5:18
and punctuates just how important that crappy Old Testament was to Jesus. Anyone who claims Christianity or purports to follow Him, would be a fool (a
poorly read fool at that) to not put weight in the Old Testament. Knowledge of the Old Testament and even reverence for it is demanded by the Deity
made flesh that you claim to worship. Ignorance of this is almost as inexcusable as tracking someone down to demean them and damage the religion you
claim to represent in the process.
The OP point stands valid and if he chooses to use the Old Testament to debate you, it is because he has more clearly understood the words of Jesus
than have you. As a non-believer, he can be rebuked just as voraciously as you deem necessary (remembering that love of your neighbor was the most
important commandment to Jesus), but it is to be done with the full armor of God. If you do not possess the knowledge to don that armor, then you
deserve a much harsher rebuke than could he ever. When you attack in such a vicious manner and bring next to zero knowledge with you, you do far more
harm to your faith, than good.
In Mark 7:14 Jesus teaches that it is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes from within "the heart". The greatest sin in this
post, biblically speaking, is not what was offered for consideration, but the venom that has been spewed from hearts.
I would also caution against dismissing texts that you aren't familiar with. At the council of Nicea there were groups of newly converted pagans
deciding what books to include and which to dismiss. Those that didn't fit with the views of these Romans were labeled heretical. Over the ensuing
centuries there were countless episodes of mass murder (speaking of human sacrifice, what religion on earth could claim more blood than organized
Christianity?) committed to prevent those texts deemed unworthy from seeing the light of day. By what seems almost miraculous fortune, those books
traveled through time and space to make themselves available for you now. Ignoring them seems unwise. The Cathars of France possessed these books and
revered them. When faced with willingly handing them over or death, they marched themselves down the hill and lay themselves into the Christian flame.
Horrid, devil worshiping Gnostics? Maybe, but they held no fear of death and that is a faith to be admired.
I pray that religions find some way to tolerate each other before they love us all to death.