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posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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You brought up Christianity,not me. I'm not talking about "convenient parts",I'm talking about the Word which is what Christians follow.

So you can prove your point by using only non-Christianic examples? By not reading Christ's word? Then you're not talking about Christianity to begin with.




posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Oh but I did. However, you said it is not relevant, but I said it was. If the NT was all that mattered there wouldn't be an OT would there? You wanna throw out the 10 Commandments along with Moses, and David, Solomon? You are incredible.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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You did? the only time you did was to misquote Matthew. I asked you why and still you haven't answered.

Why there wouldn't be OT? Nobody said it'll vanish or anything.

I'm not throwing anything out btw,I'm saying what it matters for a Christian to keep.

You had plenty of time to think so now answer,why did you misquote Matthew?
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 07:20 AM
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So, you said that if I activate my pineal gland, I will then be aligned with Satan's consciousness? How did you come across this info?

Keep in mind, I'm a neutral observer in this debate, trying to make up my mind to devote my life to Jesus, or to Mystery Knowledge, or the third option, a combination of both, or the final option, I will do nothing and instead I will ponder my choices for another few years. Ok and now I shall continue.

What if my pineal gland accidentally activates? Is that possible?

How can I positively be sure to NOT activate my pineal gland that God so Devilishly implanted in the center of my brain? (Sorry, I felt this topic needed a little humor, what with the threat of inadvertently aligning myself with the consciousness of Satan hanging over our heads and all...)

Would drinking flouridated water help? What is your opinion on this?

Would it help if I make sure I do not meditate at all ever? What is the opposite of meditating? Should I be doing more of whatever that is?

I assure you, I am not joking around one bit here. Except for that last bad joke I did. Other than that one joke, I am being totally serious. My soul, my future, the fate of my family and unborn children... it all hangs in the balance. So yeah. I would like some answers, and you seem to know a heck of a lot more than I do.

How will I know its happened?

What if I wake up one morning, and then all the sudden I'm Jack the Ripper?
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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The "doors" are not shaped like a pyramid, but follow the ancient greek architecture which is the Lambda (Λ) shape.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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EDIT: Nevermind,I didn't notice how obvious your trolling was and I actually answered.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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I asked you why and still you haven't answered.


I didn't misquote Matthew. I pasted the quote of Matthew 6:22 directly from the Bible site. If you have issues, take it up with them. I also did explain about the eye. The 'eye' is a tool; which can be used for good or bad intents. If you can't use common sense to see that, our discussion is done.

bible.cc...




King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.


I didn't misquote anything, you only chose the interpretation that you wanted to. Should I take a picture of my Bible next?




So you can prove your point by using only non-Christianic examples?


It depends on what you consider 'non-christianic', because guess what? Your opinions and interpretations are different than mine.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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Or you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Either way.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Matthew 6:22 is half the sentence and that makes the point unclear. I have no issues with the bible site because they didn't tell you to post half of it,you did it on your own.
Once again,by common sense you mean imagination because there's nothing even implying the eye as a tool.

By picking the translation you see fit and using only 6:22 which cuts the sentence in half is misquoting. Simple as that.




Or you don't have a clue what you are talking about.


I do and that's the reason you keep using your imagination,trying to give answers.

Sources that I consider non-christianic are the ones out of the NT and the reason is because Christ said "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.If you had known me, you would have known my Father also; henceforth you know him and have seen him."
I guess it seems crazy to you that Christians should follow Christ. Well,that's how it goes. You don't have to like it but that's how it goes.

I'm adding this because this leads nowhere.

I've made my point several times,if you wanna keep the act,by all means do so. I'm done with this thread. If some people will be fooled by this thread after all this then I'm afraid they get what they deserve.

Go ahead.
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Second edit. Since you posted fast,I'll read and reply for a last time if that's ok with you.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Once again,by common sense you mean imagination because there's nothing even implying the eye as a tool.


That's why it is called common sense....You are supposed to think it out for yourself without someone handing it to you on a silver platter....It has nothing to do with imagination...It has to do with using your brain, which very few religious people know how to do, because they can't take their 'Gods' out of the equation.

What does the 'third eye' do? Well, it allows you to perceive things in the physical realm that you couldn't ordinarily see. This is where you dreams take place at night, and how you see them. What are dreams? Messages from God. What is astral projection? It's a god-given ability. What else does the 'third eye' do? It produces Melatonin, which is what makes you sleepy at night, and affects your brain waves, to get you into a more meditative state; sleep. Now if meditation was such a bad thing, then why did God design our bodies that way?

I don't know about you; but that sounds like a tool to me. But go ahead and keep thinking what you want. I didn't misquote anything, because the part of darkness is irrelevant. Obviously if it is a tool that can be used for good, it can be used for bad as well. How do you think the "Satanists" exert so much control over us? Because they can know things that we can't; especially if they keep us ignorant of it in the first place.

I won't keep ranting; but you are wrongity, wrong, wrong, trying to come to my thread and accuse me of purposely deceiving people...That's what religion does for you; it blinds you to people with different opinions than your own...
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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That's why it is called common sense....You are supposed to think it out for yourself without someone handing it to you on a silver platter....It has nothing to do with imagination...It has to do with using your brain, which very few religious people know how to do, because they can't take their 'Gods' out of the equation.


Like I've said before,if there was anything like you describe in NT then you wouldn't need to fool around with paintings etc. You needed something to make your claim look more legit so you added them. How's that for using common sense?
Stereotyping religious people is a bit overdone and it's meant for people who can't form their own opinions. I can so spare me.




What does the 'third eye' do? Well, it allows you to perceive things in the physical realm that you couldn't ordinarily see. This is where you dreams take place at night, and how you see them. What are dreams? Messages from God. What is astral projection? It's a god-given ability. What else does the 'third eye' do? It produces Melatonin, which is what makes you sleepy at night, and affects your brain waves, to get you into a more meditative state; sleep. Now if meditation was such a bad thing, then why did God design our bodies that way? I don't know about you; but that sounds like a tool to me. But go ahead and keep thinking what you want. I didn't misquote anything, because the part of darkness is irrelevant. Obviously if it is a tool that can be used for good, it can be used for bad as well. How do you think the "Satanists" exert so much control over us? Because they can know things that we can't; especially if they keep us ignorant of it in the first place.


What you described might be a tool but what you described it's nowhere to be found in the NT.
Half the sentence is "irrelevant"...? Now that's something! Well,good for Christians of ATS that have you telling them which parts of the Word they should keep and which ones not.

About the satanists: They play in their home turf...for now. I'm sure you know this too so I'm not gonna elaborate.




I won't keep ranting; but you are wrongity, wrong, wrong, trying to come to my thread and accuse me of purposely deceiving people...That's what religion does for you; it blinds you to people with different opinions than your own...


Woah there...! I was thinking to leave this thread but this made things interesting. I'm not accusing you,I'm stating the obvious which I backed up several times. This is what His Word does for people,it opens their eyes and they can see who's honest and who's not.
Your own OP is proving me right. Am i wrong? change your OP and put this from RSV:
22The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is sound, your whole body will be full of light;
23but if your eye is not sound, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!

The whole thing and from another translation. If you're right then you can use this instead and still be right.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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Like I've said before,if there was anything like you describe in NT then you wouldn't need to fool around with paintings etc. You needed something to make your claim look more legit so you added them. How's that for using common sense? Stereotyping religious people is a bit overdone and it's meant for people who can't form their own opinions. I can so spare me.


I didn't 'fool around' with paintings...If you don't like religious artwork that agrees with me, then that's your problem. I don't 'need' anything to make my claim legit, it's called supporting evidence. Ever heard of it? I don't know how that is for common sense. Seems way off the mark to me. I can't form my own opinion? Maybe you should take a look at this OP and what you are complaining about....I don't think you can form your own opinions...that's the problem.



What you described might be a tool but what you described it's nowhere to be found in the NT. Half the sentence is "irrelevant"...? Now that's something! Well,good for Christians of ATS that have you telling them which parts of the Word they should keep and which ones not. About the satanists: They play in their home turf...for now. I'm sure you know this too so I'm not gonna elaborate.


Listen to me carefully, mkay? I do not care what you think is relevant to the bible or not. You can't just pick the NT and exclude everything else. If Christianity was just about the NT, they wouldn't have included the OT would they? They sure as hell didn't see fit to include the Books of Enoch or Yahweh did they? But I mean let's forget that little inconvenient point for you, shall we? Christians follow The Bible, and that is what I will use. You can like it, or you can leave this discussion. I care not.



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"Remember him—before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it." - Ecclesiastes 12:6-7


The 'Eye' was mentioned in Matthew 6:22-23, and the silver cord of astral projection was already mentioned in the OT. The Gospel of Thomas, which once again, you can like it or leave, also mentions making the two become one. Isn't that the point of marriage now? And by irrelevant; I meant that it didn't need saying, because I presumed, capable thinking people, would obviously realize the reverse is true. But please tell me...what relevance does Matthew 6:23 hold to debunking the statement I made? Not a damn thing, because the only way you can distance yourself from that argument is by claiming, the eye is not a tool.




Woah there...! I was thinking to leave this thread but this made things interesting. I'm not accusing you,I'm stating the obvious which I backed up several times. This is what His Word does for people,it opens their eyes and they can see who's honest and who's not. Your own OP is proving me right. Am i wrong? change your OP and put this from RSV: 22The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is sound, your whole body will be full of light; 23but if your eye is not sound, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!


No, you haven't stated anything obvious. What you have done is used your prejudice to attempt and influence members of this forum. There is nothing close to 'stating the obvious', when what you are really trying to do is say, I'm a general of Satan's army because I don't agree with you. You are A) wrong, and B) I don't know if you have a single clue who or what Satan really is. You can see who is being honest and who isn't? Great, please do tell me how well you perform as a psychic circus act.

Do you know what 'sound' meant in those terms? Strong, solid, stout. Which came first, the darkness or the light?

If you want to disagree with me, that's fine. But to beat around the bush, saying in round about ways, how I am deceiving and manipulating people on purpose, is not only wrong, it is deceptive in it's own. Just because someone disagree's with you doesn't mean they are being deceptive...It's called having an alternate opinion. Sheesh..



Just asking more directly, since you wanted to accuse me of not answering questions...If the NT is all that matters, doesn't that mean that the 10 Commandments of the OT is null and void? So I can kill right? I can go steal? What about fantasizing about my neighbors wife? I suppose since the OT doesn't matter, neither do those commandments, huh?
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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In the NT Jesus comes as savior to mankind because the Israelite s could not keep that covenant. As in follow the rules of God.

So in a sense yes the commandments are null and void in that mankind could in no way follow them. That does not give one a license to kill or steal though.

Also why are you trying to use the Bible to support your world system based on the mystery schools when the mystery schools are clearly outlined in the Bible as teachings of the fallen angels (Mystery Babylon)? The standard opinion of mystery school students is that Christianity is a perversion of their system.

Most of the supporting interpretations from the OT are from that of Kaballah and the Talmud, both of which are remnants of Egyptian and Babylonian (Sumerian) mystery school teachings. The Torah is supposed to be held above both of those and it contradicts most of the teachings found in the prior two.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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I didn't 'fool around' with paintings...If you don't like religious artwork that agrees with me, then that's your problem. I don't 'need' anything to make my claim legit, it's called supporting evidence. Ever heard of it? I don't know how that is for common sense. Seems way off the mark to me. I can't form my own opinion? Maybe you should take a look at this OP and what you are complaining about....I don't think you can form your own opinions...that's the problem.


Supporting evidence which are not from the source of the religion we're talking about. Should we start taking into account movies too? Of course not.

I didn't mean you can't form your own opinion. I was talking about people who adopt stereotypes,not the ones who make them.




Listen to me carefully, mkay? I do not care what you think is relevant to the bible or not. You can't just pick the NT and exclude everything else. If Christianity was just about the NT, they wouldn't have included the OT would they? They sure as hell didn't see fit to include the Books of Enoch or Yahweh did they? But I mean let's forget that little inconvenient point for you, shall we? Christians follow The Bible, and that is what I will use. You can like it, or you can leave this discussion. I care not.

So what Christ said is just my imagination? Is just what I think?
The OT is included where? Christianity? It is mentioned by some Christians,it can be read by Christians but not followed. That would go against their own religion.
No,Christians don't follow the bible,they follow Christ. I've said this over and over again.




The 'Eye' was mentioned in Matthew 6:22-23, and the silver cord of astral projection was already mentioned in the OT. The Gospel of Thomas, which once again, you can like it or leave, also mentions making the two become one. Isn't that the point of marriage now? And by irrelevant; I meant that it didn't need saying, because I presumed, capable thinking people, would obviously realize the reverse is true. But please tell me...what relevance does Matthew 6:23 hold to debunking the statement I made? Not a damn thing, because the only way you can distance yourself from that argument is by claiming, the eye is not a tool.

The simple eye,the good eye,the innocent eye.

The eye not only is not mentioned as a tool but also Matthew 6:22 and 6:23 together make it clear that it doesn't talk about single eyes etc. Some translations say single and some others don't and by reading 22 and 23 together we see it's not talking about what you want it to talk.




No, you haven't stated anything obvious. What you have done is used your prejudice to attempt and influence members of this forum. There is nothing close to 'stating the obvious', when what you are really trying to do is say, I'm a general of Satan's army because I don't agree with you. You are A) wrong, and B) I don't know if you have a single clue who or what Satan really is. You can see who is being honest and who isn't? Great, please do tell me how well you perform as a psychic circus act.


I did and you can't undone it no matter how hard you try. "Prejudice"- your opinion,it's not backed up by anything factual and if anything,in page 5 I gave you a chance to think again but you said that you have researched etc. So I even gave you the benefit of the doubt while I shouldn't.

When did I call you a "general of Satan's army"? More lies.



You can see who is being honest and who isn't? Great, please do tell me how well you perform as a psychic circus act.

Common sense and observation.




Do you know what 'sound' meant in those terms? Strong, solid, stout.

In BB it says "true",in WNT it says this "If then your eyesight is good" (I added more than one word for obvious reasons),in YLT it says "perfect",in MOF it says "generous" and in greek it says "ἁπλοῦς" which means "simple. Do they all mean "strong" or "single/sole/one"? No.



Which came first, the darkness or the light?

You want a reply from Genesis or you're just fooling around as usual? I thought you know your OT.




If you want to disagree with me, that's fine. But to beat around the bush, saying in round about ways, how I am deceiving and manipulating people on purpose, is not only wrong, it is deceptive in it's own. Just because someone disagree's with you doesn't mean they are being deceptive...It's called having an alternate opinion. Sheesh..

"Beat around the bush"? I'm always going straight to the point.
You said that before but I'm not talking about your opinions,I'm talking about what you posted and how you posted it but I'll also tell you this: If you think I'm being unfair and "deceptive" then I'm asking you to let the mods know.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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Also why are you trying to use the Bible to support your world system based on the mystery schools when the mystery schools are clearly outlined in the Bible as teachings of the fallen angels (Mystery Babylon)? The standard opinion of mystery school students is that Christianity is a perversion of their system. Most of the supporting interpretations from the OT are from that of Kaballah and the Talmud, both of which are remnants of Egyptian and Babylonian (Sumerian) mystery school teachings. The Torah is supposed to be held above both of those and it contradicts most of the teachings found in the prior two.


Because for all we know, Satan who is the ruler of this world (see II Corint, 4:4), edited the Bible to support his agenda of making everybody worship him. How else do you convince people you are really God? God isn't about control, which the Bible attempts to beat into your head that he is. I don't know about you, but any real conception of Satan, would involve controlling to the subjects (because he's a King remember?) to the utmost degree.

Therefore, I consider the path of Spirituality, minus the middlemen of the Church, to be the true way to Heaven. What if I believe that the Pineal Gland IS Jesus Christ and that is the way to the father?



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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Did the so called Satan change the Bible or did he change the method/practice of worship to fit his designs? You mention the middlemen of the church so I am assuming you primarily mean the Roman Catholic Church which is just watered down Mithraism (mystery school) with a dash various other pagan Roman celebrations.

Walter Veith has a fairly detailed analysis of the Roman Catholic Church here and if you make through I would also suggest the video 'Battle of the Bibles' as it also clears up a lot of mistakes people make between the Bible and the church.



Sorry Jesus is not the pineal gland, however activation of the pineal gland was a keystone of the mystery schools. I am not saying there is anything wrong with it as it is essentially what could be called he astral plane or the heavenly plane but it is not Jesus. Jesus from the Bible is clearly identified as the creator God incarnated into the impure world of man, this is in no way a pineal gland. The quote from Jesus about 'if thine eye be one' would indicate that he is not the eye. Also he is not nature or the material things, those were created by him, so saying God is everything is also not from the Bible. The Bible says God created the Heavens and the Earth, not that he is those. I have always wondered why/how people mistake this who claim to have read the book.



posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Supporting evidence which are not from the source of the religion we're talking about.


Who said the other points had to be? This thread is not about Christianity. Don't get things twisted.I can use any supporting evidence I choose to, as long as it is indeed truthful. Another point I would like to make is



Should we start taking into account movies too? Of course not.


Well, why not? I know a lot of movies that have factual evidence in them. Should I not be able to bring that up? Seems like you are extremely caught up in removing everything but the NT from the equation, which is not the case or the point.



I was talking about people who adopt stereotypes,not the ones who make them.


Cool beans. I'm not being mean; I'm just saying it's a little hard to have a proper discussion or debate when you only want to look at the evidence that you choose.



So what Christ said is just my imagination?


I would daresay it was probably somebody else imagination, and not your own. Mind showing me a video where you witnessed Christ saying these things, or are you just taking it on the faith of what your 'Kings' said?




The OT is included where? Christianity?


Are you being purposely obtuse? No, not Christianity...The OT is included in the BIBLE...



It is mentioned by some Christians,it can be read by Christians but not followed. That would go against their own religion.


Now I'm not sure whether you are religiously trolling or still being obtuse...Well now that you want to keep bandying about 'Christians', let's do a grammar and history lesson, shall we? Jesus name was not Jesus, namely because the letter J did not even exist in the Hebrew alphabet. Neither was it Christ. Christ comes from the Greek, Christos. Now if we follow this back even further to Sanskrit, which predates Hebrew and Greek(I believe?), the word is Krista. Now, do you know what Krista is? It was the name used to address Krisnha in prayers.

www.salagram.net/jesus-christ-kristos-page.htm

And I will also leave you this little link here, about all the fascinating parallel's between Latin, Greek, and Sanskrit. By the way, it's a .edu, so I am sure you will love it!


web.cn.edu/kwheeler/IE_Main4_Sanskrit.html




No,Christians don't follow the bible,they follow Christ. I've said this over and over again.


And it has sounded entirely devoid of logic, each and every time you have said it. You are about to eat your love for the NT....Listen carefully... The words of Christ are where? Written in the books of the NT. Where is the NT at? It's in the Bible, right after this section called the OT. You can twist your words any which way you like. Christians read the bible, so therefore you will accept the WHOLE bible in this argument.



That would go against their own religion.


Wouldn't worshiping a pagan winter solstice ritual, using the name of a Hindu deity as their savior, and concluding prayers with the word Amen, as in Amen-Ra; go against their religion as well? Just checking....




The eye not only is not mentioned as a tool


If I had to most definitely say anything was a tool, I think I would have to start with you....Dude come on...You need to 'think' a little bit, or else this discussion is going to get nowhere.....Remember what we said about common sense? Well, you need to use it here. The Bible talks about 'the eye', well guess what you only have one 'single' eye, you would not refer to your plural eyes in the singular; or does that go back to Genesis, and God talking to himself in pluralities again? Well guess what, we know what the only single eye is, and that's the Pineal, hence the 'Third Eye', because it doesn't have a mate to it.




Some translations say single and some others don't and by reading 22 and 23 together we see


Who is this we stuff? More singular nouns talking about themselves in plurality again? I think there was this one time this happened, it's a Jesus story, so I'm sure you will love it; he happened upon a man who spoke in the plurality like that too. Turns out this dude was possessed by a legion of demons; and oh boy was Jesus not having that #, so he took the demons and cast them into 2000 or so random pigs that just happened to be nearby. Then, they mysteriously ran out into the water and drown themselves....Sounds like a lovely story...



it's not talking about what you want it to talk.


Wrong again, it's not talking about what you want it to mean. I mean gosh! Anything that brings your religion closer to the mystery teachings must be denied at all costs right? I mean, let's just exclude the possibility, that they are one and the same, and certain stuff is being withheld from us by Satan, because he doesn't want us to be more spiritually progressed....How would you control people who can move mountains?



I did and you can't undone it no matter how hard you try.


No, in reality what you have done, is accuse someone of attempting to mislead people because you don't like what they say; and then say you aren't accusing them in a kind of
way.




Prejudice"- your opinion,it's not backed up by anything factual and if anything,in page 5 I gave you a chance to think again but you said that you have researched etc. So I even gave you the benefit of the doubt while I shouldn't.


Read the above....You are indeed being prejudice. You are saying I'm being deceptive and dishonest, because your opinions don't agree with my opinions, and you are using that prejudice of your religion is better than all, to make me out as some sort of con-man demon. Your religion, Christianity, is prejudice against anything that doesn't involve bowing a knee to their God...God's don't demand worship, tyrants do.

You gave me the benefit of the doubt? Oh boy,
Once again, you are letting your pre-conceived ideals, the lens of Christianity, prejudice the discussion we are having, because Christianity takes this to be 'work of the Devil', do tell me how he created the Eye in us, and the Melatonin/Circadian rhythm's, and just maybe, maybe we will get somewhere in the light of your viewpoint. But if that narrative involves using demons to play dress up as ET's and manipulate our DNA, etc,etc, you can save it. Mkay?




When did I call you a "general of Satan's army"? More lies.


Remember what I said about beating around the bush? Again, you have to resort to calling me a liar in an attempt to discredit me, but that is okay. I wouldn't expect any less from a 'Krishnan'.



Common sense and observation.


Please. Tell me more about how you have used them...




You want a reply from Genesis or you're just fooling around as usual? I thought you know your OT.


I wasn't aware that "Krishnans' or 'Christians' read the OT? I thought that was all null and void, remember? I would like a common sense reply, but of course you can't give me one of those. Think chicken and the egg paradox.




"Beat around the bush"? I'm always going straight to the point. You said that before but I'm not talking about your opinions,I'm talking about what you posted and how you posted it


Oh, but is what I posted not my opinions?
What is deceptive though, is trying to damage my image by not only accusing me of being a liar, but purposely 'misquoting', and attempting to deceive people, simply because you either don't like what I say, or it doesn't agree with your pre-conceived notions of your own religion. Either way it's your choice.
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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You are being disingenuous in your use of the term Christianity.

You have not even asked what denomination they hold to.

Honestly you are comparing the God of the Bible to a solar deity when the Bible itself calls Satan by the name of another solar deity Appolyon. The OT is by in large about the Israelite peoples separating themselves from a nation ruled by another solar deity in the Osiris/Isis/Horus which was merely another interpretation Baal/Astarte/Tammuz of Babylon.

Again Mystery Babylon is identified in the Bible as a church which is against the true God of the Bible. By all symbols and rituals Roman Catholicism is Mithraism and was even founded by the head of a Mithraic Sun cult from the Sol Invictus branch, Constantine.

It sounds like you hate Catholicism and yet you seem to know very little about it or its origins.

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And after you go into the roots of the words please don't bring up the weak association of Jesus as the son of God and try to use that as evidence that they meant the Sun . . . the Greeks used Helios, in Latin it is Sol, in Sanskrit it is Surya, in old English it is Swegl, the closest it comes to sounding like son is the Germanic Sunna while in Egypt it was Ra. . . .
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posted on Dec, 26 2012 @ 11:54 PM
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Honestly you are comparing the God of the Bible to a solar deity when the Bible itself calls Satan by the name of another solar deity Appolyon.


And Yahweh was identified with Adonai, what is your point?

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The Greek Ἄδωνις (Greek pronunciation: [ˈadɔːnis]), Adōnis was a borrowing from the Semitic word adon, "lord",[2] which is related to Adonai, one of the names used to refer to the God (אֲדֹנָי) in the Hebrew Bible and still used in Judaism to the present day. Syrian Adonis is Gauas[3] or Aos, to Egyptian Osiris, to the Semitic Tammuz and Baal Hadad, to the Etruscan Atunis and the Phrygian Attis, all of whom are deities of rebirth and vegetation.





the Bible itself calls Satan by the name of another solar deity Appolyon.


The Bible also tries to associate Satan with Lucifer, who he is not. So I'll take that with a grain of salt.



Again Mystery Babylon is identified in the Bible as a church which is against the true God of the Bible. By all symbols and rituals Roman Catholicism is Mithraism and was even founded by the head of a Mithraic Sun cult from the Sol Invictus branch, Constantine.


You realize how ridiculous this sounds right? Why would Roman Catholicism outcast Freemasons as Demons, when they would essentially be 'brethren'? Or they are trying to keep something from us. That is my pick...

Satan took the Bible, removed all the relevant parts, and set it's masses against their very salvation, by saying you can only get to Heaven through him....If that doesn't sound like a trap to you; I don't know...But my bull# alarm is going off.



posted on Dec, 27 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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Most of the supporting interpretations from the OT are from that of Kaballah and the Talmud, both of which are remnants of Egyptian and Babylonian (Sumerian) mystery school teachings. The Torah is supposed to be held above both of those and it contradicts most of the teachings found in the prior two.


This is again, ridiculous...How many letters are there in the Hebrew alphabet, which was given to the Jews by God? 22. Now how many bones did he put into our skull and cranium? 22. How many paths are on the Tree of Life, Ten Sephiroth, of the Kabbalah? 22. No way. Does each one correspond to a letter of the Hebrew alphabet? Why yes it does. Now how many major arcana's are in the Tarot, which can be traced to Egypt? 22. Are they related? Yep.





By the way; Tree of Life also contains the Hexagram through which all 22 letters can be drawn. But let's deny or ignore all of this, as long as we can distance it from Christianity, right?





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