Maddie 'is with German family'

This is purely speculation, but this is what I suspect happened...

How many parents would leave a child just shy of 4 years old and a 2 year old alone in an apartment? Not only is it seriously neglectful, It couldn't practically be done. One or both wouldn't sleep soundly enough to be left. One or both would wake up and be distressed - assuming they'd go to sleep in the first place! Any parent will tell you this.

Now, there is a way around that little problem, given that both parents are doctors, and that is to drug the children so that they are unconscious and therefore freeing the McCanns to go out and play.

Obviously, drugs can be very dangerous and here I suspect Madeleine was either given an accidental overdose or she had a reaction to the drug that resulted in her death.

After that it's all down to the McCanns lying to cover it up.

Originally posted by Insomniac
This is purely speculation, but this is what I suspect happened...

How many parents would leave a child just shy of 4 years old and a 2 year old alone in an apartment? Not only is it seriously neglectful, It couldn't practically be done. One or both wouldn't sleep soundly enough to be left. One or both would wake up and be distressed - assuming they'd go to sleep in the first place! Any parent will tell you this.

Now, there is a way around that little problem, given that both parents are doctors, and that is to drug the children so that they are unconscious and therefore freeing the McCanns to go out and play.

Obviously, drugs can be very dangerous and here I suspect Madeleine was either given an accidental overdose or she had a reaction to the drug that resulted in her death.

After that it's all down to the McCanns lying to cover it up.

edit on 31/8/12 by Insomniac because: typo

They c0uld 0f just hired a nanny their d0ct0rs there n0t br0ke

s0me0ne watched them c0ming and g0ing and knew that they *left
the kid in the h0tel. It was n0t the first time 0n that trip they left the kids al0ne.
Sadly pr0bably s0ld in the sex slave trade

Originally posted by Char-Lee

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The only accident I can think of that could cause death in a child that age, falling on her head and breaking her neck, choking on something, could happen while you are there asleep.

Or - they could have given her something to make sure that she stayed asleep whilst they had their cosy romantic evening in the restaurant, only they got the dose wrong.

As doctors they would have had access to suitable pharmaceuticals, but even doctors make the occasional mistake and if I'm not mistaken, it's supposed to be quite difficult to determine the correct dosage of medicines for small children ie: to find the balance between not enough and too much. And of course, if she had died this way - there is no way they could pass it off like that - it would be manslaughter and even if they didn't go down for it, neither of them would ever work again. They would have to get rid of the body.

Well, that is my theory and I don't believe that she is still alive either, at least, I'll be very surprised if she is.

peace
J

ETA - I see the poster above has also arrived at the same theory...

J

Originally posted by Insomniac
This is purely speculation, but this is what I suspect happened...

How many parents would leave a child just shy of 4 years old and a 2 year old alone in an apartment? Not only is it seriously neglectful, It couldn't practically be done. One or both wouldn't sleep soundly enough to be left. One or both would wake up and be distressed - assuming they'd go to sleep in the first place! Any parent will tell you this.

Now, there is a way around that little problem, given that both parents are doctors, and that is to drug the children so that they are unconscious and therefore freeing the McCanns to go out and play.

Obviously, drugs can be very dangerous and here I suspect Madeleine was either given an accidental overdose or she had a reaction to the drug that resulted in her death.

After that it's all down to the McCanns lying to cover it up.

edit on 31/8/12 by Insomniac because: typo

Hadn't thought about that, and your theory is credible. Like I said in my post, I don't think they intentionally killed their daughter. That only leaves the problem of how they disposed of the body.

As has been said, police sniffer dogs smelt the scent of a dead body in the boot of their rental car. I'm not familiar with the surrounding area of the resort, so I don't know where they could of (possibly) disposed of her body and it not of been found by now considering the media/police interest in this unfortunate event.

King

Originally posted by sirnukeem

Originally posted by Insomniac
This is purely speculation, but this is what I suspect happened...

How many parents would leave a child just shy of 4 years old and a 2 year old alone in an apartment? Not only is it seriously neglectful, It couldn't practically be done. One or both wouldn't sleep soundly enough to be left. One or both would wake up and be distressed - assuming they'd go to sleep in the first place! Any parent will tell you this.

Now, there is a way around that little problem, given that both parents are doctors, and that is to drug the children so that they are unconscious and therefore freeing the McCanns to go out and play.

Obviously, drugs can be very dangerous and here I suspect Madeleine was either given an accidental overdose or she had a reaction to the drug that resulted in her death.

After that it's all down to the McCanns lying to cover it up.

edit on 31/8/12 by Insomniac because: typo

They c0uld 0f just hired a nanny their d0ct0rs there n0t br0ke

s0me0ne watched them c0ming and g0ing and knew that they *left
the kid in the h0tel. It was n0t the first time 0n that trip they left the kids al0ne.
Sadly pr0bably s0ld in the sex slave trade

Just because they're doctors and would have a huge income between them is irrelevant. You don't know what personal debt the couple had, mortgage payments etc etc. So too basically state that because they're doctors and should have plenty of disposable income too pay for a nanny is a bit short sighted imo

King

Difficult to tell from that pic, but the nose looks a different shape. That said, the Police would be out of order if they didn't at least follow it up. Should be interesting.. I have always been somewhat suspicious of the parents. I have kids and would never leave them alone in a hotel room while going out drinking. In fact, such a thing is often punished here in the UK, here is an extreme example of someone doing the same thing


reply to post by sirnukeem


Please, for the love of all that is holy, use an o not a 0. It isn't hard.. It is, after all, against the T&C's concerning "text speak" and the like. I hate to be the grammar police, but reading your post makes my eyes bleed.

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They did a lousy job of investigating from the very beginning. The man they questioned that was there at the time has refused to cooperate. Red flags all around this person. I guess we have to wait until another child disappears around this person before something is done. Just like what happened with the Natalie Hollaway case.

Originally posted by kingears

Just because they're doctors and would have a huge income between them is irrelevant. You don't know what personal debt the couple had, mortgage payments etc etc. So too basically state that because they're doctors and should have plenty of disposable income too pay for a nanny is a bit short sighted imo

King

They were 0n a vacati0n 0utside 0f their h0me c0untry, which they paid f0r n0t cheap. If by credit cards they had
t0 have g00d en0ugh credit t0 get a limit 0f th0usands 0f d0llars and suggests they paid their bill 0n time as they hadnt maxed 0ut the card. I d0ubt m0ney was the pr0blem, the pr0blem lies with them believing there children were safe f0r a sh0rt time while they were 0ut, they didnt think n0thing 0f it. al0t 0f smart pe0ple are lacking in c0mm0n sense. They just didnt expect t0 have s0me0ne stalking them just waiting f0r a time t0 snatch the kid. Pr0bably was pegged 0ut at the airp0rt right after landing

reply to post by ProfessorT


Check this out from May 8. 2012 This witness claims she was with a German family plus 2 other kids as well. This may really be her!

'Groggy' girl seemed alienated from German family she was with at Cabopino campsite near Fuengirola

www.dailymail.co.uk...

I rek'n he did pretty well to get that pic...
I mean, if indeed this is a stolen child I doubt the person would so openly let a photo be taken..

i think the kid looks to chubby and young to be her, ... a miracle if it leads to something..

I've always thought the child died while they were at the bar, they buried the body so they wouldnt get done for neglect.. and now they have to keep acting whenever a sighting comes up.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I rek'n he did pretty well to get that pic...
I mean, if indeed this is a stolen child I doubt the person would so openly let a photo be taken..

i think the kid looks to chubby and young to be her, ... a miracle if it leads to something..

I've always thought the child died while they were at the bar, they buried the body so they wouldnt get done for neglect.. and now they have to keep acting whenever a sighting comes up.

Burried the b0dy in a f0reign c0untry t0 them>? H0w they kn0w where t0 bury and it be such a great place, where did they buy a sh0vel fr0m, they c0ncealed it s0 well n0 0ne saw them and still have n0t f0und the remains seems pretty unlikely. Besides kids d0nt just die 0ut 0f n0where which then y0u have t0 tie an0ther st0ry t0 it *like they drugged their 0wn kid.

I do wonder why this man only took one blurry picture, it reminds me of the "typical" UFO photo...only one and blurry. I'm sure after a bus ride and then a flight with these people he could have gotten more pictures.

Also, when people think they see her why do they not do something straight away about it? I find this curious in the different sighting articles I read about people seeing her.

reply to post by sirnukeem


Well, If it was me?

Id just wrap the body up in sheets, blankets what ever I could. Id put it in th washing machine. I would NOT turn it on. I would then open the phone book or internet and look for the nearest bunnings/hardware store.. I would chose a few in the area and slowing buy plastic tarp, bleach, some deoderiser, gaffa tape, 2 shovels. id pay cash. if i had to id get a cab... on the way back I would stop at a car rental place get a car for 1 week and ask about camping area's, scenic drives, day trips etc etc...

return to house wrap body, gaffa tape it, make it a solid cocoon. place in bath tab. shut door
spend every minute scrubbing the house with amonia, bleach, brushes..
burn the clothes I was wearing at the time.

wait until 2/3am, body into car, pretend 'camping' bags packed.. go for a long drive...

scout out a number of places, go for a hike one night.. and come back 1 item lighter.

remember you get caught your life is over.. i think you'd have enough resolve to figure it out as you went along.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


I hope the poor little girl died of an accidental overdose and wasn't sold into child pornographic slavery.

I hope the parents rot in hell for being so stupid and irresponsible.

Originally posted by kingears
This subject is a tough one.

I myself have a 2 year old daughter. I would NEVER leave her alone in a hotel room, and I'm an unemployed man who has HALF the intelligence her parents (two doctors) are meant to have.

This is what I don't get. They are obviously intelligent human beings, so why would they leave their daughter in a hotel room in Portugal, with her two younger siblings? Something doesn't add up.

I personally believe she was killed, by accident. Whether it was something maddie did whilst she was unsupervised, or they did (just my opinion as there's no proof obviously) but the search for Maddie is a charade to cover their tracks. Like I said they are obviously two intelligent people who could, if needed, partake in a charade of searching for their daughter, whilst covering over any wrong doing they may or may not of done themselves.

I'm not alone in thinking they may (or may not) of killed/covered up their daughters death, this survey says it all ---


www.helium.com...

I hope that someday she is found alive and is reunited with her family, but I fear that this will never happen.

King

I feel that I don't have near enough information to say one way or the other. I too hope she is found alive as does everyone else. I have gut feelings as do many others that I choose not to reveal. I find it very unusual that parents would leave children of that age alone in a room while they went for dinner. The most difficult thing for me, is that they are still sticking together. They either didn't have anything to do with it, or they are both sociopaths, or one or both are psycopaths. Like I said, I don't have enough information to form a cogent conclusion.

Originally posted by AmberLeaf
Cadever dogs dont lie, they killed her and got away with murder.

I havent believed a word they said since i learned of the cadever dogs findings.

I didn't want to say it, but this.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by sirnukeem

 

Well, If it was me?

Id just wrap the body up in sheets, blankets what ever I could. Id put it in th washing machine. I would NOT turn it on. I would then open the phone book or internet and look for the nearest bunnings/hardware store.. I would chose a few in the area and slowing buy plastic tarp, bleach, some deoderiser, gaffa tape, 2 shovels. id pay cash. if i had to id get a cab... on the way back I would stop at a car rental place get a car for 1 week and ask about camping area's, scenic drives, day trips etc etc...

return to house wrap body, gaffa tape it, make it a solid cocoon. place in bath tab. shut door
spend every minute scrubbing the house with amonia, bleach, brushes..
burn the clothes I was wearing at the time.

wait until 2/3am, body into car, pretend 'camping' bags packed.. go for a long drive...

scout out a number of places, go for a hike one night.. and come back 1 item lighter.

remember you get caught your life is over.. i think you'd have enough resolve to figure it out as you went along.

It makes m0re sense that they went 0ut t0 eat leaving the kid their thinking n0thing 0f it.
Every year we hear ab0ut parents *leaving a child in a h0t car thinking n0thing 0f it kid dies.

These pr0 kidnappers pick pe0ple m0stly t0urists right fr0m the airp0rt and watch them
f0r a few days waiting f0r the right chance

If there were and accident, what would be the point covering it up, if it came out you left the kids alone either way? Couldn't the couple simply get back to the room, they find she has had an accident and died, and said it happened while they were there asleep or something. Less media attention to that.

The only accident I can think of that could cause death in a child that age, falling on her head and breaking her neck, choking on something, could happen while you are there asleep.

If it was an accident, most people in the world would call 911 or whatever it is wherever. Most would not go bury the body somewhere unless they were involved and/or responsible. Because there is no body, leads one away from an accident in my opinion.

Originally posted by Katie
reply to post by kingears

 

They did a lousy job of investigating from the very beginning. The man they questioned that was there at the time has refused to cooperate. Red flags all around this person. I guess we have to wait until another child disappears around this person before something is done. Just like what happened with the Natalie Hollaway case.

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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by sirnukeem

 

Well, If it was me?

Id just wrap the body up in sheets, blankets what ever I could. Id put it in th washing machine. I would NOT turn it on. I would then open the phone book or internet and look for the nearest bunnings/hardware store.. I would chose a few in the area and slowing buy plastic tarp, bleach, some deoderiser, gaffa tape, 2 shovels. id pay cash. if i had to id get a cab... on the way back I would stop at a car rental place get a car for 1 week and ask about camping area's, scenic drives, day trips etc etc...

return to house wrap body, gaffa tape it, make it a solid cocoon. place in bath tab. shut door
spend every minute scrubbing the house with amonia, bleach, brushes..
burn the clothes I was wearing at the time.

wait until 2/3am, body into car, pretend 'camping' bags packed.. go for a long drive...

scout out a number of places, go for a hike one night.. and come back 1 item lighter.

remember you get caught your life is over.. i think you'd have enough resolve to figure it out as you went along.

Care to comment on the surveilence camera's?