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Originally posted by EmperorXyn
You guys are all set against our agenda, give me reasons why we do more harm then good. I really believe we do try and help and because we police, everyone looks at us bad, but the world is a better place with us here possibly. I say that, because somebody needs to step up and maintain order in such a young planet. It's like the early earth. You have the few who have matured and the few young with deadly weapons who need to be controlled[Iran], but hell, we keep everyone in check so far. And seriously people, nobody should fear a US invasion unless your harming your own people.
Bring it on.
Originally posted by Expat888
reply to post by Drunkenparrot
yaaawwnnn.... spare me the propaganda speaches ... Ive witnessed firsthand the results of u.s foriegn policy ... put way too many people back together and buried far too many that experienced american foriegn policy ... there isnt enough soap in the world to wash the blood off america's hands ...
Extremely well explained DP.Too bad its wasted upon the ignorant,rude,pompous,hypocritical,self deluded cretins that have decided to spew the same ridiculous,fantastical lines of bull # on a daily basis.Thread derailment and trollish threads and replies has made this a joke glp look alike.Personally I believe we should have left Europe to the Germans and Russians.We should have let the Japenese have Australia.IF my country offers aid in ANY form I shall bombard their offices with charges and complain
Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Originally posted by Expat888
world is far worse due your countries mass murder for profit ... only thing u.s brings the world is pain ... destruction.. death... oppression and tyranny ...
It's funny how the knee jerk anti U.S. rhetoric conveniently ignores the billions in foreign aid, global disaster relief, technological innovation, scientific contributions and educational opportunities etc. that the U.S. contributes for the betterment of the world.
If the U.S. was truly the global tyrant that you disingenuously choose to portray we would not practice soft international diplomacy but instead force our will upon others through military force alone and there would be little to stand in our way.
The post WWII world has been a time of relative peace, there has not been a direct confrontation between the major world powers (and the catastrophic loss of civilian life that accompanies such events) for 67 years which is a record in modern history.
The restraint shown in the limited confrontations the U.S. has become involved with in recent history only reinforce the fact.
When China intervened on behalf of the young DPRK in 1951 Korea, Harry Truman kept the war contained to the Korean peninsula rather than expanding the war into China or resorting to nuclear weapons despite tremendous military pressure to the contrary.
The whole debacle of Vietnam would have been over in 1965 had we ignored world convention and strategically bombed the North as was made painfully evident from the 1972 linebacker II campaign that forced the Democratic Republic of Vietnam to ratify the Paris Peace Accords.
When the NVA violated the treaty and invaded the south in 1975 (two years after the complete U.S. military withdrawal) the U.S. did not a initiate punitive bombing campaign and left the destiny of Vietnam to the Vietnamese.
U.S. intervention was pivotal in reigning in the Israeli counter invasion of Egypt and Syria while ultimately brokering a peace agreement that saw the Sinai being returned to Egypt along with a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel.
The U.S. did not rise to the bait and attack Iran when members of the Islamic revolution stormed the U.S. embassy and took our citizens hostage nor have we expanded the multiple confrontations in the Persian gulf in retaliation for Iranian attempts to interfere with global shipping in the Persian Gulf.
The U.S. defeated the communist coup and Cuban invasion of Grenada, reinstated the Grenadian constitution and immediately withdrew, leaving Grenada to its citizens.
The U.S. removed the tyrant dictator Manuel Noriega from power and returned Panama to a civilian constitutional government.
The U.S. expelled the Iraqi invasion force from Kuwait, destroyed the Iraqi military with minimal civilian casualties and returned Kuwait to its rightful government. Of note is that the U.S. resisted the temptation to go beyond the U.N. mandate and expel Saddam Hussein from power.
U.S. peacekeeping forces attempting to bring order to lawless Somalia were killed and their bodies paraded through the streets. Had the Rangers in question been the ruthless shock troops some imply they would have indiscriminately opened fire and saved themselves, killing hundreds in the process.
The U.S. led NATO coalition stopped the Serbian ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Bosnians and brought relative peace to the Balkans.
The 2003 invasion of Iraq removed the tyrant Saddam Hussein from power and the U.S. military has since withdrew, leaving the destiny of Iraq to the Iraqi's. It is hard to argue that U.S. motivations were economical as China is receiving the bulk of Iraqi oil production.
The ongoing occupation of Afghanistan is slowly bleeding the U.S. yet we remain engaged with the hope that a successful secular Afghani government will eventually mature and become self sufficient or would you prefer the Taliban were returned to power?
In short the U.S. has done more to secure global peace and security and paid a strong price in the blood of her young men. A consistent theme that I see with most that denigrate the U.S. role in the world community seems to be a painfully obvious ignorance of modern history.
Some of you should make an effort to educate yourselves before you repeat the anti U.S. rhetoric trumpeting the evil of the country that protects your right to be an ill informed jerk.
Originally posted by felixjames20
This thread is awesome
It has it all
The total belief that the US it the center of the universe and going around sticking there nose in other countries business is a good thing. Well heres a fact for you, its NOT. The US used to be a great country now its seen as the bully of the whole planet, going around saying "Do what we tell you and ifne. I say bring all
The US overseas policy is so flawed, it is creating the very terrorist it says it wants to rid the world of. Terrorist are popping up everywhere, and when they learn to corporate in their mutual goal of taking out the US, then its the end of the world for all of us.
Great idea!Back the most brutal murderous regimes on the planet,genuis.And for the simpletons that use the bombing of Japan guess what?Even if Pearl harbor,the bataan death march and torture of American service men in their POW camps the obvious escapes the barely literate.After thousands of American dead trying to take Okinawathe American deaths were projected to be hundreds of thousands.So why dont you bigmouths try to tell us that YOUR oh so morally would not have done the same if in our spot after 4 damn years yet again defending a weak ass europe.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Terminal1
It does not matter. In the event of any Nuclear Attack upon the U.S. or it's allies in any form...the response is too terrible to contemplate. Split Infinity
Originally posted by EmperorXyn
give me reasons why we do more harm then good.
Bring it on.edit on 31-8-2012 by EmperorXyn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by SplitInfinity
Is the US going to use these very same weapons on the civil population?
I see it happening, with the race-war, class-war, get rid of these mindless, stupid welfare people, and the smarter, hard-working, wanting the constitution back, liberty minded people.