Multiple Human Species Were Likely The Norm

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posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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Multiple Human Species Were Likely The Norm


This month, a new fossil analysis out of East Africa shows that several kinds of humans coexisted around 2 million years ago, near the dawn of all human species. Scientists say the familiar cartoon image of increasingly upright creatures progressing to a human male is misleading. We should picture a bushy tree, with multiple branches or types of humans existing at different points in time. Many early models of humanity were not our ancestors, but simply died out.


Even after Homo sapiens emerged, we coexisted with Neanderthals as well as a lesser-known group called the Denisovans, the long-lived species Homo erectus, and the diminutive “hobbit” species Homo floresiensis. The last group didn’t go extinct until about 12,000 years ago, which is an eyeblink in evolutionary time. “There have been many experiments in becoming human, most of which didn’t succeed in the long run,” said William Kimbel, who directs the Institute of Human Origins at Arizona State University.



As many of you know I proposed this possibility in a couple of the threads I've written, most notably Man's Genetic voyage. Fact, Speculation and Theories and to a lesser extent Who Were the Ancient Megalithic Builders?

In them {Well worth the time to read if you haven't already} I proposed that maybe the reason why the scientific community sometimes find objects which obviously show signs of intelligence yet do not fit into our {Homo Sapiens} timeline which may have been created by those who were our Genetic cousins of sorts.

For those of you who are like me find this fascinating possibility intriguing should read the above linked article in it's entirety and I would love to hear your opinions and thoughts.

As always.

Stay tuned....
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posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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Sounds like there were some different types amongst the Amalekites/Philistines.

Its interesting that the Bible talks about giants.

The hobbit and the massive jaw bones that have been found kinda put questions on the evolution story we are sold.
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posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by freemarketsocialist
Sounds like there were some different types amongst the Amalekites/Philistines.

Its interesting that the Bible talks about giants.

The hobbit and the massive jaw bones that have been found kinda put questions on the evolution story we are sold.
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Its also funny that the bible talks about other people outside of Adam and Eves offspring, Cain went and mated outside that blood line.

people often mistake the creation story of Adam and Eve as humans beginnings, its not, its the history of the Semitic people told to Moses (who is believed to have written the first books of the bible or torah)

As to the OP.

Its amazing the more we learn the more we see how little we know.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 01:35 AM
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Well. Think about it critically for a few minutes.....

If I were the aaliens that "made" man, I would also make several different varieties, choosing what traits I liked in each seet and combining them into the one final product.

Or perhaps evolution decided to make a lot of different copies of the dominant predator to fill multiple niches in their part of the world.

Either way it is interesting to me.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 02:12 AM
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As always, thank you for the excellent read and topic, Slayer.

S&F. I will comment after I've read it in its entirety.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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There have certainly been many human species (take a look at the Wikipedia page on human evolution), and some of them were contemporaneous.

'Species' is a word whose definition is highly arguable. The common-or-garden definition is a population capable of successful interbreeding. Still, we tend to regard Homo sapiens and Neanderthals as different species in spite of interbreeding, so it's a grey area.

If there were contemporaneous human species that could not interbreed at any time in prehistory, but whose ranges in space and time nevertheless overlapped, and if all were intelligent to some degree, then I am certain they would have competed with one another, and one lot would eventually have wiped out all the rest. If they could interbreed, then they would probably be subsumed rather than literally exterminated.

But it is more likely they were isolated from each other, and died out without meeting their intelligent contemporaries. That's what happened to Homo floresiensis, by all accounts.

Exciting to think that deadly confrontations between intelligent species was part of Earth's history. I have often wondered whether the myth of Cain and Abel encodes the story of our elimination of a cousin species. Perhaps this is also the root of the notion of original sin. I am glad to live in an era when the dominance of H. sapiens is uncontested.


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posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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I thought I'd post this topic related article...


Exciting times

Genome of mysterious extinct human completed, scientists say

The genome of a recently discovered branch of extinct humans known as the Denisovans that once interbred with us has been sequenced, scientists said Thursday.

Genetic analysis of the fossil revealed it apparently belonged to a little girl with dark skin, brown hair and brown eyes, researchers said. All in all, the scientists discovered about 100,000 recent changes in our genome that occurred after the split from the Denisovans. A number of these changes influence genes linked with brain function and nervous system development, leading to speculation that we may think differently from the Denisovans. Other changes are linked with the skin, eyes and teeth.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 03:05 AM
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This is nothing new in itself. Haven't we known this since the Neanderthals?
But it's always fascinating to find new species. This has always been a reason for creationists to think that there's a missing piece in evolution.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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Bravo yet again SLAYER69!
Wonderful post.

Human ancestry is always fascinating considering the dynamic volatility of understanding constantly under way.
Who's who, when and where, and the controversies of who did who in the sack, and who did who in are always fun avenues to explore.

What's always fascinated me as well is the seeming spontaneous parallel adaptation and innovation of vastly separated groups developing similar methodologies for solving problems at or around the same time without any seeming contact.

In reference to Homo floresiensis, or the "hobbit", there's speculation regarding the cryptid Orang Pendek, that O.P. might very well be related to Homo floresiensis in consideration of the recent extinction.
This, of course is speculation as no Orang Pendek have been found, but, it'd certainly be amazing were we to find an actual living hominid species still extent in the wild.



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posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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While it might be nothing new in basic concept, it is interesting for it's reinforcement of our human genome being a stew of many other species and sub-species.

Another subject this makes my mind wander to is, which of the mythical humanoids of lore, does this newly confirmed humanoid represent?



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 04:38 AM
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The focus on the flesh/bone container/shell of the Soul has been unfortunate for it seems to dissuade one from the point. If man is to assume he was created in the Image of his Creator, that would be the very Soul, the 'essence' the plasmic, electromagnetic field, the halo, the ambience etc.

ET folks appear more versed in this area as they often make their own shells/containers. Flesh don't work well in space for all the right reasons; I suppose.

Even man can manipulate his own genome/flesh/bone though the Soul, the spArk of the first beat of the heart is another matter/substrate altogether.

Nonetheless, interesting to witness the shells of antiquity which 'never' appear in chronological order of evolution; for a reason I suppose. Slayer69; always thinking; it's appreciated more than you may know.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by tamusan
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While it might be nothing new in basic concept, it is interesting for it's reinforcement of our human genome being a stew of many other species and sub-species.

Absolutely. All I meant to say that the news was formed as sensational, rather than a confirmation of what we +already know and/or suspect.



Another subject this makes my mind wander to is, which of the mythical humanoids of lore, does this newly confirmed humanoid represent?

None, as mythical creatures will most likely continue to be...mythical.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 05:12 AM
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None, as mythical creatures will most likely continue to be...mythical. undefined

That is such clever irony, it produced laughter.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 05:15 AM
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Should it be hard for one to fathom that perhaps their Soul as been in many containers/shells while trapped on the purgatorial rock with the possiblity for Ascension once earned/ready? What is 'time' to one's Creator? Seems meaningless and means much less in space as science itself has proven. Gravity itself ages the human body more than anything though less stress, organic food, natural springwater, communion (enhancing, empowering one's being, energy) preserves as well. The Solfeggion frequencies, Gregorian chants do much to extend the flesh for it heals the cells, repairs dna and energizes one's beeing all at the same time for Good reason so 'I' understand. U? There are many other life-extending technologies though the Frequency atunement is the Key that continues to get 'lost' in time.....and again.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 05:21 AM
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Our indoctrination to believe that humans are the sole inhabitants of earth to possess a soul is rather shallow. I suspect no one could factually convince me that animals have no soul, any easier than they can factually convince me that humans indeed have a soul. I'm inclined to believe we do, but having faith alone does not make it true.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 05:30 AM
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Naturalpathic medicine from nature.
Who needs pharmacetaKills (with debilitating, deadly -side- affects) when a community could grow it's own 'natural' enzymatic (+energized+) medicine of which is Of their Creator? Even the best buiding materials, stone/hardwoods/adobe etc. are frOm nature and renewable. Cut one tree, plant 5 seedings. It's the Dole-ar that enslaved mankind both rich and poor for what the truly seek is communion/fellowship/acknowledgement/appreciation for what each has to offer as a unique being, a unique creation of which can only create as a unique being could create if given that chance.

The Golden Rule and Hypocratic Oath are what I would consider human Natural law of which need not be written or interpreted but rather seen/understood for what it IS by the Conscience; a Creator given trait from what 'I' understand. Many of the giants of the past were telepathic and/or communicated with sYmbols just as ET folk do today as in the past.

Self sufficient communities/guildes of specialties of which could/should trade amongst another is to be the a life one could believe in with.....pershaps gold/silver to satisfy unequal barters till mediums of Xchange, other than Brotherhood are no longer necessary. Technology, free energy is here and now in many forms though unfortunately Not in use as it should/could. There are no excuses less indifference/greed/selfishness; certainly not traits of any 'worth'.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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All living 'things' have a life force, a lesser form of spirit, whichever label or word one should choose though I have yet to meet an animal with a Conscience, Sapience, Sentience, Logic, Reason, Rationale, Wisdom, Knowledge, Creativity, Freewill (of which implies a 'choice' rather than a deterministic or programmed being) {freewill vs. determinism}.
I'm an avid animal lover though am not afraid to eat meat of my own farmed animals, or to eat the excess/overpopulated species in the forest from occasion. It should seem reasonable man was given dominion over the animal kingdom for I've yet to meet an animal that had dominion over man; less as a snack, sometimes a deserved one.



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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The term 'humanoid' could be seen as the shell/container of a plasmic being/Soul whether it was made fOr them or made by them. Does a Soul have a choice which container/shell it is to experience time to time, regardless of the differences inherent in one genome or another, the Conscience (the guide) remains.

Perhaps a well versed Soul would be more Xperienced, sympathic, empathetic, more understanding, knowledgable and wise if it was to be of/from a shell of many colors past to present? Communities of one custom or another could live apart or together in peace once one learns to speak to the Soul of the other rather than to it's shell. Till then, human beings will continue to allow themselves to be divided and conquered till death do their carcusses part.

Interesting topics for perspective anyhow for it's not place to preach, only to reason/debate where the opportunity may provide itself. :|



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 06:14 AM
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I've just been reading about the Denisovan cave girl on the bbc website, very interesting, here's a link www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Aug, 31 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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I eat more than my fair share of animals. I've also cared for many different species at both an individual and professional level. I'm not proclaiming that animals have a soul. I'm up to running the fact test, but I think the solid evidence is lacking to definitively prove they have no soul. Much like the facts are lacking to prove we humans have a soul. I certainly believe that mankind was not given dominion over animals. I'm fairly certain history shows that we have taken the dominion over the animals by our own doings.

Getting closer to the origin of the genes, which are linked to the development of human brain function, and our nervous system is a very interesting group of facts to be zeroing in on. That's the kind of information which will help us understand how we came to successfully infest and and exploit everything we discover.





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