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Originally posted by Xoanon
That's it then? We are all going to go mad together on this thread, aren't we?
Stories exert a powerful influence on human thoughts and behavior. They consolidate
memory, shape emotions, cue heuristics and biases in judgment, influence in-group/out-
group distinctions, and may affect the fundamental contents of personal identity. It
comes as no surprise that these influences make stories highly relevant to vexing security
challenges such as radicalization, violent social mobilization, insurgency and terrorism,
and conflict prevention and resolution.
Originally posted by Xoanon
I'm sorry, TG, I really want to create a brief of what we have learned so far along with speculations based on same but am having a crushing day.
First of all, the Aviary does not exist. It was a term of convenience invented by a discredited researcher, Moore, who let his invention get away from him.
Moore thought of himself as a pretty smart cookie and indulged a boyhood fantasy by thinking he could be a real spy and therefore spy on the spies. Instead he got played (or pwned as the youngsters say) and in so doing he helped destroy a man, Bennewitz. And not only that, he got played with the MJ-12 documents, too. I think it is fair to say he was neutralized.
There is no Mr. Big coordinating all these bit players, Boris Badanovs and Natashas, to a central purpose. Indeed, when you look at what all these folks are doing, they are working at cross-purposes with each other.
And just what is our conclusion? Well, it’s pretty nebulous so far. It appears to be that there is some sort of coordinated effort at some sort of “mind control” intended to shape and/or control public opinion in such a way as to allow a group or groups of Bad Guys™ to do whatever it is they want to do.
Originally posted by schuyler
I called no names and kept to the issues. ("Paleface" begs to differ. -ed.) Calling me disingenuous is not something I can take seriously.
And I felt slightly exasperated because there are plenty of potential motives littering the thread, so your reiterating your demands seemed disingenuous.
Originally posted by Xoanon
Yeah, but calling them 'bad guys' kinda drives things off into the weeds. You realize that what these guys are trying to do is get to the core of what it actually takes to 'write' ('dictate' please consider how all these words are related at the moment) how entire societies function. Like the old computer punch cards, they are looking for ways to punch our collective cards so that we all operate on the same program.
They are trying to get a grip on writing narrative 'spells' to be cast on populations. It always comes down to witchcraft. Think of the witchcraft and magic that you learned about while studying Anthropology (the queen of sciences, IMO). Same #, schuyler.
That is hardly a small thing.
Cybernetics is a transdisciplinary approach for exploring regulatory systems, their structures, constraints, and possibilities. Cybernetics is relevant to the study of mechanical, physical, biological, cognitive, and social systems.
Cybernetics is only applicable when the system being analysed is involved in a closed signal loop; that is, where action by the system causes some change in its environment and that change is fed to the system via information (feedback) that enables the system to change its behavior. This "circular causal" relationship is necessary and sufficient for a cybernetic perspective. System Dynamics, a related field, originated with applications of electrical engineering control theory to other kinds of simulation models (especially business systems) by Jay Forrester at MIT in the 1950s.
Concepts studied by cyberneticists (or, as some prefer, cyberneticians) include, but are not limited to: learning, cognition, adaption, social control, emergence, communication, efficiency, efficacy, and connectivity. These concepts are studied by other subjects such as engineering and biology, but in cybernetics these are removed from the context of the individual organism or device.
But perhaps we're facing something which is basically a social technology. Perhaps the most important effects from the UFO technology are the social ones and not the physical ones. In other words the physical reality may serve only as a kind of triggering device to provide images for the witness to report. These perceptions are manipulated to create certain kinds of social effects. If that's true, then the abduction cases are quite revealing. I am not concerned with how many switches there were on the control panel or whether the percipient felt hot or cold when he was inside the flying saucer. Those questions may be totally irrelevant because maybe that person never actually went inside the object.
But the report is extremely important for its symbolic content. It can help us understand what kinds of images are coming through. One might illustrate the difference in this way: An engineer observing a computer would want to look at the back and open up the boxes. He would want to take a probe and examine the different parts of the computer. But there is another way of looking at it; the way of the programmer, who wants to sit in front of the computer and analyze what it does, not how it does it. That's my approach. I want to ask it questions and see what answers I get. I want to interact with it as an information entity.
In the case of the abductions I think we're dealing with the information aspect. I came to that conclusion because abduction cases, in close encounter cases in general, what the witness is saying is absurd.
True and False Memories as an Illustrative Case of the Difficulty of Developing Accurate and Practical Neurophysiological Indexes of Psychological States
An important issue for cognitive neuroscientists concerns efforts to determine whether a person is reporting a true experience or one that is false but believed. In the last decade, there have been innumerable research efforts designed to distinguish true from false memories. Earlier work examining behavioral differences between true and false memories revealed that group differences were sometimes found ...
…A notable exception can be found in the work of Okado and Stark (2005), who examined true and false memories in the context of a misinformation experiment and thus studied richer false memories. Misinformation studies show how readily memory can become skewed when people are fed misinformation…
Richard McNally and his collaborators (McNally, 2003) studied people who had very rich, although likely false, memories of alien abduction have been studied. One study explored whether people who believe they have been abducted exhibit heightened physiological reactivity (heart rate and skin conductance) that occurs commonly in patients who have posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) when they think about their traumas.
The “abductees” studied had experienced apparent sleep paralysis and hypnopompic hallucinations, which are vivid dreamlike hallucinations that occur as one is waking up, such as seeing figures hovering near their beds. Most had recovered memories with such techniques as guided imagery and hypnosis. Some of the recovered memories involved sexual intercourse with aliens or having sperm extracted for breeding purposes. Their physiological reactions were similar to those seen in PTSD patients who listen to audiotaped scripts of their traumas. Thus, expressed emotion is no guarantee that a memory is true.
“Jim is the person I have had the most contact with over the last several months and he seems to be interested in the spreading of viral memes over the internet, particularly in relation to this subject.”…
“The whole subject,” Jim says in wonderfully measured speech, “is composed of three components: delusion, sociological groupthink, and a kernel of truth.” Jim then reminds that he is first and foremost a medical scientist. “My interest in this subject is much, much more professional than it is personal. That is, 90 to 95% of all persons who are engaged fully with this [UFO] subject are psychiatrically ill, and by that I mean that they are on medication or should be.” Jim elaborates that “viral memes,”[see below] in which disturbed people seek validation in numbers on the web, is, or should be, a growing public health concern. That said, Jim nonetheless has a real interest in UFO’s, and seemingly with good reason.
Both Tom and Jim seem to share at least one rationale for their internet excursions: studying the frightening potential of “viral internet memes.”
Coined by evolutionary theorist Richard Dawkins in 1976 (The Selfish Gene), a meme is a unit of cultural information that evolves the way a gene propagates from one organism to another, and subject to all the analogous unintended mutations. In the view of many, computers and blogs could function as powerful meme “replicators.”
Richard Brodie, the creator of Microsoft Word, notes, “Most of these viruses of the mind are spread because they are intriguing or frightening or inspiring, and not necessarily because they're true. That's the problem.” It doesn’t take much intuition to envision an enemy creating memes that can be used to destabilize a society, or a freelance predator utilizing them to cozy up to potential victims. Caryn Anscomb writes online,
“The UFO community has been deeply penetrated by the manipulators of information, who couldn’t really give a fig whether there might be any valuable data pertaining to Aliens and contact hidden behind the deafening noise. That’s not their business; their business is information warfare.”
"If you were to give them the core story right off the bat, they'd get sick, so you do it slowly over ten or twenty years.You put out a bunch of movies, a bunch of books, a bunch of stories, a bunch of Internet memes about reptilian aliens eating our children, about all the crazy stuff that we've seen recently in Serpo. Then one day you say, "Hey, all that stuff is nonsense, relax, it's not that bad, you don't have to worry, the reality is this..." - and then you give them the real story."
..One of the inferences that you can draw from the situation is that before 1979 Bruce was quite cautious, seemingly afraid that he might lose his government classified research job, and after 1979, when he began meeting with the CIA, he seemed to abandon all these cautions and got involved with a lot of things that *seemingly* (were) going up against the government." -Todd Zechel, one of the founders of CAUS…
"One of the inferences that you can draw from the situation is that before 1979 Bruce was quite cautious, seemingly afraid that he might lose his government classified research job, and after 1979, when he began meeting with the CIA, he seemed to abandon all these cautions and got involved with a lot of things that seemingly (were) going up against the government.
"Being one of the lead sponsors of the MJ-12 investigation -- if MJ-12 was legitimate, which I don't believe it was -- then Maccabee was certainly taking a number of risks with his security clearance."
It is Zechel's opinion that since nothing happened to Maccabee, his military employer wasn't displeased with what he was doing.
Maccabee's contact at the CIA who had purportedly told him about the 15,000 documents was Dr. Christopher C. "Kit" Green. Green is now reportedly chief of Biomedical Sciences Dept. at General Motors; his replacement at the CIA is supposedly Pandolfi. Zechel said he once asked Maccabee directly if he was working for the CIA. According to Zechel, Maccabee stated, "You might say that."