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Although aiming to reflect some of the features present in diagnosable mental illness, schizotypy does not necessarily imply that someone who is more schizotypal than someone else is more ill. For example, certain aspects of schizotypy may be beneficial. Both the Unusual experiences and Cognitive disorganisation aspects have been linked to Creativity and academic achievement. Jackson proposed the concept of ‘benign schizotypy’ in relation to certain classes of religious experience, which he suggested might be regarded as a form of problem-solving and therefore of adaptive value. The link between positive schizotypy and certain facets of creativity is consistent with the notion of a "healthy schizotypy", which may account for the persistence of schizophrenia-related genes in the population despite their many dysfunctional aspects.
...Back to 2005. Acting as “anonymous,” Mr. Doty and his friends (yes, there were others helping him along in this edeavor) spent months distributing this new, contemporary form of the same message offered to Ufology in the 1980′s as “MJ-12.” After the Ufology crowd went ga-ga over it…Doty was eventually identified as the culprit, and half the crowd went, “aaaaawwww.”
Show’s over. Or is it?
Creepy Crawlies Under the Rocks
…[Excellent] investigators began turning over rocks and uncovering more about those who were assisting Doty with these story releases, the apparent depth and scope of the scam started to take shape. Tracing back elements of the 2005 releases revealed a ‘core story’ that spans back to not only the 1980′s, but as early as the 1970′s. Finally, we are getting to the real meat – the real core…
The List
There’s a lot of history to cover, but the important thing to understand is that what people have seen on the very surface, the culprits people think they know, are only a few of a wider group that’s been involved in this thing from day one. What is this thing? It’s an experiment, of sorts. It’s important to take a look at what and who we’re dealing with here.
Ron Pandolfi – CIA Scientist (possibly former) who expressed an interest in the 30 year scams early on in the Doty investigation.
Kit Green – Former CIA scientist who had an obvious interest in the 30 year scams, with an intense interest in Ufology believers – the weirder the better. Found shoulder to shoulder with Doty in 2005.[/bd]
Hal Puthoff – Former government contractor and former parapsychologist who has an avid interest in any form of metaphysical science that can bring lots of money. Also working with Doty in 2005.
Jacques Vallee – Former computer expert with a fascination regarding Ufology cults and beliefs, as well as the phenomenon itself.
John Alexander – Mr. Non-Lethal-Weapons himself, with a fascinating in parapsychology and just about anything else paranormal…his hands deep into everything.
C.B. Scott Jones – Ever heard of him? Sen. Claiborne Pell’s embarassment…and Prince Hans Adam’s biggest mistake. He remains a constant eyesore at UFO conferences…what’s his involvement? That’s why we’re here folks. That’s why we’re here.[/bd]
...A few cryptic emails filled with metaphors hit my mailbox recently. Maybe a warning that we’re getting too close. Maybe a hint that the heat is getting too much. Who knows…these guys have toyed with Ufology researchers for many years, they’re not about to stop playing their games now. One thing is obvious, the first two men on the list above are “tight.”…
linkwww.topsecretwriters.com...
Originally posted by lakespirit
This quote by the GUT hits home with me...I have done my own investigating, and threads like this help me quite a bit to try to make sense of my experience...Thank you!...
1984 - Jaime Shandera receives "Operation Majestic 12" documents.
1986 to 1988 - A meeting at the house of retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Ernie Kellerstrass kicks off "bird" players Richard Doty, Dale Graff, Ernie Kellerstrass, Hal Puthoff, Scott Jones, Kit Green, John Alexander, and Robert Collins himself.
1987 - Shandera, Moore and Friedman release the MJ-12 documents to the public. 1988 - Richard Doty and Ernie Kellerstrass meet with and attempt to impress executive producer Seligman (the producer of "UFO Cover-Up Live") with cloak-and-dagger dramatics.
1989 - Follow-up "group" meeting at an Albuquerque, NM hotel included Hal Puthoff, Kit Green, Rick Doty, Bill and Jaime and Collins. Collins writes, "Kit Green took center stage by proposing several lines of attack involving disclosure strategies."
1990's - Ufologist Timothy Cooper allegedly receives "new Majestic 12 documents". Researchers noted that typewriter anomalies in these new documents matched anomalies produced by Timothy's own typewriter. Note - Timothy Cooper is listed as a contributor, along with Richard Doty, to Robert Collin's book Exempt From Disclosure
2005 - Rick Doty, and pseudonym characters Gene and Paul, launched a story on the Internet called "Project Serpo", a tale about 12 astronauts who went on an exchange program to an alien planet. They claimed this was an alleged disclosure coming from an "anonymous" government insider. The scam was just as strange and ridiculous (and appeared to attempt to compete with) the ongoing Dan Burisch scam.
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"Kit Green took center stage by proposing several lines of attack involving disclosure strategies."
...Eventually, investigators at this site uncovered and revealed the names of individuals privately and very actively involved with the people (two other men...forming what has become termed the "Team of Five") who were distributing the information to the public via an email list and a website (and at least one presentation at a Laughlin Conference).
These individuals were none other than - Dr. Christopher Green and Dr. Harold Puthoff, both very good friends of Rick Doty's.
…investigators also published the fact that Rick Doty's own computer IP was identified on the header of not only the anonymous source emails, but also Paul McGovern's, and several other characters who were allegedly "insiders" communicating only via email, and refusing to meet anyone in person, or speak on the phone. According to Bob Collins - the old group from the 1980s still exists. This group includes Hal Puthoff, Rick Doty, Kit Green, and Robert Collins, but very likely also includes Ernie Kellerstrass, Dale Graff, Scott Jones, and John Alexander…
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“The whole subject,” Jim says in wonderfully measured speech, “is composed of three components: delusion, sociological groupthink, and a kernel of truth.” Jim then reminds that he is first and foremost a medical scientist.
“My interest in this subject is much, much more professional than it is personal. That is, 90 to 95% of all persons who are engaged fully with this [UFO] subject are psychiatrically ill, and by that I mean that they are on medication or should be.”
Jim elaborates that “viral memes,”[see below] in which disturbed people seek validation in numbers on the web, is, or should be, a growing public health concern. That said, Jim nonetheless has a real interest in UFO’s, and seemingly with good reason.
Originally posted by saintinwaiting
I hope it relates to the topic, but this subject brought this video snippet to mind, especially with the resemblance that they have to the characters seen in the FRINGE sci-fi series on TV - this video purports to have footage of two Men in Black entering a hotel in connection to some UFO sightings in the same area:
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
Ok... There's a lot going on in this thread but I'm just not certain how much time I can invest into reading it all right now for reasons I won't get into.... but lemme get this straight. The summary is that there is no such thing as an ET and all of these NUMEROUS people mentioned are proof that it has all been an experiment.
Is that correct or should I read on?
Originally posted by The GUT
Originally posted by NotAnAspie
Ok... There's a lot going on in this thread but I'm just not certain how much time I can invest into reading it all right now for reasons I won't get into.... but lemme get this straight. The summary is that there is no such thing as an ET and all of these NUMEROUS people mentioned are proof that it has all been an experiment.
Is that correct or should I read on?
No. Most of the menbers posting here are interested in the UFO phenomenon and have varied levels of belief.
The gist here is they are some folk who float FAKE stories of UFOS for purposes related to government intelligence. Which, yes, I'm asserting is a large and long-term government experiment.
It is hurtful, I assert, to all those who seek the truth. Stick around. UFO truth is important right?
Originally posted by The GUT
reply to post by NotAnAspie
You seem pretty cool to me and I'll have fun chatting with you about some of the topics you bring up on a relevant thread, but how about helping me stay on topic and researching this thing?
It's important you know. Don't make me sorry I'm starring you!
p.s, - If you start any threads, let me know and I'll stop by and help out.
Originally posted by FireMoon
reply to post by NotAnAspie
Just to reiterate that which GUT has said. More and exercise in separating the wheat from the chaff and trying to work out possible motives for interest/disinformation with regards to a phenomenon, I for one, believe is a very real experience. What that experience specifically is I still am yet to understand. That's OK though, there's nothing wrong at all about wanting to understand that which has befuddled some seriously large intellects, to the point, they have just walked away from it. Part of the intrinsic beauty of being human is that, we are fallible and yet seek to improve our understanding.
Dan Rather chose Russo to represent the critics of the Warren Report in his 1993 television special, Who Shot JFK? Russo was also employed as an investigative reporter for ABC News and worked with Peter Jennings on the television production of Dangerous World, The Kennedy Years.
In 1998 Russo published Live By The Sword: The Secret War against Castro and the Death of JFK…the book was well received by the anti-conspiracy media and was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize.
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• “Tom” (pseudo.), a MASINT specialist (Measures and Signals Intelligence) with a PhD in chemistry
Paul, an aeronautics scholar interested in “breakthrough propulsion and gravity-modification technologies,” work down the hall from each at the Directorate of National Intelligence (DNI) headquarters in Washington.
• “Jim” (pseudo.), a physician and former CIA officer in the Directorate of Science and Technology, maintains his security clearance, and travels back to Washington often to work on classified psychological studies.
• Richard “Rick” Doty, a longtime friend and colleague of Jim, was an investigator assigned the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI).
…Research identified and revealed the identities of "Tom" (Dr. Ron Pandolfi, CIA, DIA, ODNI), "Paul" (Paul Murad, OSD ATL), and "Jim" (Dr. Christopher Kit Green, former CIA analyst and DIA consultant to the TIGER Technology Warning Committee).
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“The whole subject,” Jim says in wonderfully measured speech, “is composed of three components: delusion, sociological groupthink, and a kernel of truth.” Jim then reminds that he is first and foremost a medical scientist.
“My interest in this subject is much, much more professional than it is personal. That is, 90 to 95% of all persons who are engaged fully with this [UFO] subject are psychiatrically ill, and by that I mean that they are on medication or should be.”
Jim elaborates that “viral memes,”[see below] in which disturbed people seek validation in numbers on the web, is, or should be, a growing public health concern.