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Originally posted by gguyx
reply to post by The GUT
So, this seems to be a one-sided deal you have here with an absent Mr. Green. Why not invite him onto ATS? The mods can easily verify identities. This way you two can fence and we all might learn something, or not. In any case, it wouldn't so one-sided anymore.
I always feel uncomfortable hearing only one side of the story when I know there may be three sides--yours, his, and the truth.
...A comment made by Graff is of interest for those searching for UFO/Alien connections within the STAR GATE files, in which he surmises that the current UFO craze is a reflection of the loss of connectivity with deeper aspects of ourselves. If Graff truly believes that, it becomes a significant indication that research into psi-ability was / is pointing to areas other than nuts and bolts alien technology….
…ongoing research in the field of cognitive sciences and neurology has possibly led to a significant find: a non-endogenous signal may have been detected in the prefrontal cortex of the brain….
…this brain region has been implicated in planning complex cognitive behaviors, personality expression and moderating correct social behavior.
...Although it is to soon to know the extent of this discovery, as it remains very hush hush, if proved correct the discovery will have a profound impact on how we view the emergence of consciousness, and if / how our conscious / subconscious minds might be influenced by an ‘outside’ signal. Not least, where this ‘signal’ might originate from.
In summing-up, any discerning researcher should notice a distinct pattern emerging out of the complex and interwoven events and players.
The hypothesis proposed here is that the modern nuts and bolts UFO myth was born out of overlapping events, which include Cold War and post Cold War counterintelligence, skilled masters of deception and not so skilled hoaxers. But lurking in the background is the king of paradox, the Master Trickster himself.
..The UFO arena fast became a platform for gathering and disseminating information to and from a variety of sources, and wherein the trickster runs riot. But hiding in the shadows are a bunch of folk, some highly positioned, who quietly watch the show, suspended from their webs of intrigue waiting to catch a fat juicy fly. And it’s this overlap, this grey region betwixt UFOlogy, Intel and parapsychology that is quite probably the most enigmatic.
We (SSR) are repeatedly told by one of our sources that the UFO phenomenon can’t be tracked by traditional technological means — “one has to follow the people, not the phenomenon,” we’re told.
First, there is a physical object. That may be a flying saucer or it may be a projection or it may be something entirely different. All we know about it is that it represents a tremendous quantity of electromagnetic energy in a small volume. I say that based upon the evidence gathered from traces, from electromagnetic and radar detection and from perturbations of the electromagnetic fields such as Dr. Claude Poher, the French space scientist, has recorded.
Second, there's the phenomenon the witnesses perceive. What they tell us is that they've seen a flying saucer. Now they may have seen that or they may have seen an image of a flying saucer or they may have hallucinated it under the influence of microwave radiation, or any of a number of things may have happened. The fact is that the witnesses were exposed to an event and as a result they experienced a highly complex alteration of perception which caused them to describe the object or objects that figure in their testimony.
We know there are objects that contain a lot of energy in a small space. What do we know about what happens to the human brain when it's exposed to a great deal of energy?
…What we do know is that you can make people hallucinate using either lights or microwave or electromagnetic energy. You can also make them pass out; you can cause them to behave strangely, put them into shock, make them hear voices or even kill them.
An engineer observing a computer would want to look at the back and open up the boxes. He would want to take a probe and examine the different parts of the computer. But there is another way of looking at it; the way of the programmer, who wants to sit in front of the computer and analyze what it does, not how it does it.
That's my approach. I want to ask it questions and see what answers I get. I want to interact with it as an information entity.
There are different kinds of control systems - open ones and closed ones - and there are tests you can apply to them to find out what kind of control system you're inside. That leads to a number of experiments you can do with the UFO phenomenon, whereas the other interpretations don't lead you to anything.
If you're convinced that UFOs are extraterrestrial, then about the only thing you can do is to climb to a hilltop with a flashlight and send a message in Morse code. People have tried that, I know, but it doesn't seem to work very will!
The control system concept can be tested by a small group of people - you don't need a large organization or a lot of equipment - and you can start thinking about active intervention in the phenomenon.
I hesitate to be too specific. I'm speaking, as I'm sure you understand, of the attempted manipulation of UFO manifestations. It's a pretty tall order.
We're assuming that there is a feedback mechanism involved in the operations of the control system; if you change the information that's carried back to that system, you might be able to infiltrate it through its own feedback.
True and False Memories as an Illustrative Case of the Difficulty of Developing Accurate and Practical Neurophysiological Indexes of Psychological States
An important issue for cognitive neuroscientists concerns efforts to determine whether a person is reporting a true experience or one that is false but believed. In the last decade, there have been innumerable research efforts designed to distinguish true from false memories. Earlier work examining behavioral differences between true and false memories revealed that group differences were sometimes found (for example, more sensory details in true-memory reports)
…Graff applied for the Director of Central Intelligence Exceptional Analyst Program, a prestigious intelligence analyst fellowship awarded by the Director of the CIA.
Though Graff's proposal to study electromagnetic effects on brain processes included aspects of parapsychology research, he was still chosen to receive the important award…
Excerpted from, Reading the Enemy's Mind
Dale Graff, Defense Intelligence Agency who fought to keep Pandolfi out of the DIA "RV/psi" loop. UFO-related technology specialist [alleged by Smith, Guiley, etc. to be a genuine DIA "Dark Side" bad-boy -B:.B:. reported by Dan Smith (cf. infra) to be head of the "military" UFO Working Group at Los Alamos National Laboratory; rumored to be involved in psychotronic and ESP programs at Los Alamos;
formerly was contracts overseer for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base; then was chief of the DIA's Defense Technology/Special Programs department, before reportedly being fired by the DIA. Currently Graff is reported to be in contact with the human designate who communicates with an extraterrestrial residing near Washington, DC in a subterranean facility. BELIEVE IT OR NOT!
Originally posted by The GUT
From a Jerome Clark interview with Jacques Vallee originally published in FATE Magazine, 1978
NOTE: Brilliant scientist, SRI background, DARPA background, stellar thinker, really did help invent the internet, friend of Dr. Christopher "Kit" Green says in 1978 that microwaves and/or electromagnetic energy can. "cause them to behave strangely, put them into shock, make them hear voices or even kill them."
I'm not saying Jacques would zap anyone, just that these effects have been noted in association with ufology.
So: Checked & Noted. Right? Moving along then.
...How do you tell people that story? If it's true?' he added, almost parenthetically.
"If you were to give them the core story right off the bat, they'd get sick, so you do it slowly over ten or twenty years.You put out a bunch of movies, a bunch of books, a bunch of stories, a bunch of Internet memes about reptilian aliens eating our children, about all the crazy stuff that we've seen recently in Serpo. Then one day you say, "Hey, all that stuff is nonsense, relax, it's not that bad, you don't have to worry, the reality is this..." - and then you give them the real story."
Mirage Men by Mark Pilkington
Originally posted by Still Naive?
No, The GUT, you were not one of the members to request details on the conversation Kit and I had.
I am not giving any private details as it was the request of Kit for our conversations to stay between him and I.
I will state, however, that he is well aware of Above Top Secret, and he may just be browsing every once in a while.
As a matter in fact, something tells me he's read this thread already...
Originally posted by chrisb9
It would be appreciated if you could mention some type of counter measures that any of us might be able to use to help Protect ourselves from any of these type of weapons. For example, if someone was pointing a pistol at any of us, if we had on a bullet proof vest, that would go a long way to help stopping a bullet. And if a laser beam where pointed at any of us, a simple mirror would be able to block and bounce the laser beam away from us.