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posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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I don't often recommend specific books however, this one really does fit in well with what we are talknig about here. Firstly, let me point out, very few people, even within the very circles he moved in, believe Amado was actually Aleister's son. That said, the book is truly fascinating read and it does catalogue the supposed actions of the British secret services during WW2 and how they used every last trick in the book to combat Hitler. I had the good fortune to to meet and chat to one Michael Bentine, who himself wrote some fascinating stuff about "Black and Psy Ops" as well as being an utterly charming and totally barking mad English eccentric, he was a founder of the "Goons". I asked him about Amado's book and he didn't dismiss many of his claims out of hand, rather smiled and said, "Not half as mad as it sounds"

Now Bentine, served in military intelligence during WW2, he used to delight in telling the tale of how" I spoke several languages fluently, none of them eastern European, so the British Secret Service saw it as wholly logical to put me in charge of military intelligence liaison with the Polish Free Forces"

Anyway, this book is well worth a read as are Bentine's own memoires

Amado Crowley. "The Secrets of Aleister Crowley"




posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Hello all you humans on earth. We are now proud owners(with the russians) of new information that proves that this earth is a toy of majorly more intelligent and powerful being/or beings . The fact that they keep restarting this thing with the same old information hoping man will make new and different descissions about how too grow up.
We have been finding bits and peices of major older peoples with more intelligence and more power than we ever thought of having. Read about the new find of old plants and nuclar waste at the bottom of a sea by russia. not to mention the new actions too dig up the city around it. This might have been who the people of Atlantis were firing their new giantic light powered vaporizor at when they themselves were blown out of the water and off of the earth.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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Right so we've established the following. Ex USA psy ops tend to go round slapping each other's phone books with rubber hoses and talking to dead people whilst British ex military intelligence and psy ops. agents make stuff like this when they retire..




posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by FireMoon
...as well as being an utterly charming and totally barking mad English eccentric...

I ask you: Is there a better kind? Heck no.


Sounds like a fantastic read, thank you, FireMoon.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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Okay, back to Dr. Christopher Green, sort of, and in anticipation of Still Naive's report, before I return to scary-as-heck non-lethal weaponry and documented government studies and scenarios where they envision situations where an angry U.S. population needs to have said technologies used on them (us).

I need a break and something lighter.

The following email and one snippet are from a publicly posted email exchange (linked below in the external text) makes me ask the question: Did Ron Pandolphi ever post and make clarifications on ATS as he asserted he would. If so, did he post as himself?

How many of those guys post here under any number of avatars and to what end?

Not that they don't have as much right as any of us, but it's an interesting question.

In the exchange at the link provided, there is some exchange from Dr. Green, but at some point his exchanges were pulled at his request.

He is mentioned in the posted ones however, and at some point it sounds like Ron Pandolphi accused him of having false memory syndrome:


…Indeed I did raise the issue of you having some form of false memory syndrome and then did a superficial review with some of our mutual friends to reject this hypothesis…..

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Of course that's a pretty silly assertion about the memory of a true braniac like Kit Green.


----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Pandolfi
To: 'RICK DOTY'
Cc: 'Christopher Green'
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 21:33
Subject: RE: Keep me out of this

Rick,

I very much appreciate you recommendation that I peruse the ATS forum. It contained excellent background information. Sometime next week I will consult with Dr. Green and attempt to come to closure on a few of the outstanding issues. I will post the public aspects of my findings on the ATS forum, provide you a personal copy if you provide a mailing address, and I will send an official copy to Capt. Pete Kassetas of the New Mexico State Patrol as identified on the ATS forum. I very much appreciate your assistance.

email exchange



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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I'm still waiting on pin cushions to see if any of this gets tied in with the Microwave Auditory Effect also known as the Frey Effect, as it relates to the exploration and development of the super spooky Voice Of God Weapon that is supposedly capable of beaming messages into people's heads.

Some sources claim it's the military equivalent of urban myth, while other sources go into exacting detail regarding the science behind the principle, documentation of it's initial discovery with persons working closely to radar transponders reporting the clicking "sounds", as well as effects on birds, amplitudes and frequencies used to cause the effect and other such points of interest.

Terms like Voice to Skull, MEDUSA, and others seem to crop up.

Lots of fun documentation, rumor, articles, and information seem available, but, at the same time, though the effect seems well documented and real, has the microwave auditory effect been successfully capitalized upon to bring about this rumored Voice of God Weapon?



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Druscilla
I'm still waiting on pin cushions to see if any of this gets tied in with the Microwave Auditory Effect also known as the Frey Effect, as it relates to the exploration and development of the super spooky Voice Of God Weapon that is supposedly capable of beaming messages into people's heads.

Heck Yeah, Dru!! Soon actually.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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In the document that the excerpted quotes below come from, SRI, DARPA, and Neuroscience come up. That brings to mind what we've established about Dr. Christoper "Kit" Green so far. And you'll note the subject is non-lethal weapons with a good dose of mind manipulation of various sorts. 

Which essentially and rather neatly tie Dr. Green & Col. Alexander together. Another tie they share is phenomenology i.e. remote viewing and esoteric subjects. And, oh yeah: UFOs and Disclosure.

But lets look at the overlap in neuroscience, non-lethal weaponry, and mind-war (control)…or is that Kontrolle?


“New World Vistas” was a major undertaking by the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, to examine future developments in weapons.  Published in 1996, it totalled 14 volumes of studies.  The fifteenth “ancillary” volume contained some hair-raising insights into the future “coupling” of man and machine.

Tucked away on page 89 is a section dealing with “Biological Process Control.”  The author speaks of an “explosion” of knowledge in the field of neuroscience.

He then proceeds to his main point “One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set.”   Translating the words “experience set” from military jargon into plain English, this simply means your entire life’s “memories” can be erased and a new, fictitious memory implanted.
www.deepblacklies.co.uk...

"New World Vistas." Kind of brings to mind New World Order.


In another US Military publication, a similar futuristic scenario was adopted.  Published by the US Army War College in 1994, “The Revolution in Military Affairs and Conflict Short of War” contains many references to mind manipulation.

Authors Steven Metz and James Kievit observe ,for example “Behaviour modification is a key component of peace enforcement.” [ii]  They go on to note that “The advantage of [using] directed energy systems is deniability.”[iii]  Savvy individuals the authors then ask “Against whom is such deniability aimed?”[iv]  The answer simply is “deniability must be aimed at the American people.”[v]  So much for “open government” in the brave new world’s brave new age.

www.deepblacklies.co.uk...

Wow. That's pretty heavy. They don't seem to think much of us. It's a recurring theme. The article continues:


Setting Buck Rogers to the forefront, the writers proceed to layout a futuristic scenario set in the year 2010, that utilises “perception moulding” and “advanced psychotechnologies” to avoid irksome public protest. 

But that is just the beginning.  The major problem they believe is that “traditional American ethics [are] a major hindrance…”  and thus, sadly “old-fashioned notions of personal privacy and national sovereignty [are to be] changed.” [vi]

Individual citizens unwilling to go along with the revolutionary changes are “identified using Comprehensive interagency integrated Database.”  They are then “catergorized” and subjected to “sophisticated computerized personality simulations used to develop, tailor and focus psychological campaigns for [against] each.”[vii] 
www.deepblacklies.co.uk...

Sounds like official expectation of situation and use of said technologies. Anticipation of Operational logistics. Is it just me, or does there seem to be something…un-democratic about it all? Authoritarian, even. More later.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Below we find the strange tale of the Livermore scientists. Kit Green shows up in this tale under the pseudonym, "Kennett."

Neuroscience & Phenomenology and the kind of strange-loop experiment that spooks sometimes pull? I think it's a good bet, and we can easily see how the technologies we've been following could have caused this. AND: UFOs again! Well a teeny-tiny one anyways.


I think there’s no better illustration of that than this odd tale of some spooky events supposedly experienced by the scientists involved in testing Uri Geller. What you want to remember is that the most compelling and dramatic facts of the case (the code words, the one-armed man) come to us via the testimony of Dr. Green (given the pseudonym “Kennett” in this excerpt from Remote Viewers.) Also keep in mind that Targ and Puthoff had a background in cutting edge laser technology. Lasers, as you probably know, are what you use to make holograms.

One day in the lab, several members of the Livermore [LLNL] group were monitoring [Uri] Geller during a metal-bending session. They recorded him with audiotape, filmed him with videotape, and photographed him with a variety of still cameras, including one that was sensitive to thermal infrared radiation.

After the experiment they developed all the film and saw something very strange. The infrared camera had caught what seemed to be two diffuse patches of radiation on the upper part of one of the laboratory walls. It was as if someone had briefly shone two large heat sources, either from inside the lab or outside pointing in. The patches grew in intensity for a few frames, then over the next few frames diminished to nothing.

The Livermore Group were understandably puzzled over this, but it was only the beginning of the strangeness that would soon consume them. When they checked the audiotape they had made during the experiment, they found amid everything else a distinctive, metallic- sounding voice, unheard during the actual experiment but now clearly audible, if mostly unintelligible. All they could make out were a few apparently random words strung together.

...In any case, Peter Crane and some of the others in the Livermore group quickly found themselves involved in more strangeness than they could handle. In the days and weeks that followed, they began to feel that they were collectively possessed by some kind of tormenting, teasing, hallucination-inducing spirit. They all would be in a laboratory together, setting up some experiment, or one of the fellows and his wife and children would be at home, just sitting around, when suddenly there in the middle of the room would be a weird, hovering, almost comically stereotypical image of a flying saucer. It was always about eight inches across, in a gray, fuzzy monochrome, as if it were some kind of hologram (my emphasis -DE). The thematic connection with Geller was obvious, when one remembered that Geller claimed to be controlled by a giant computerized flying saucer named Spectra.

On the other hand, the flying saucer wasn’t the only form the Livermore visions took. There were sometimes animals — fantastic animals from the ecstatic lore of shamans — such as the large raven-like birds that were seen traipsing through the yards of several members of the group. One of them appeared briefly to a physicist named Mike Russo and his terrified wife. The two were lying around one morning when suddenly there was this giant bird staring at them from the foot of their bed..

Kennett had visited Livermore previously, in his capacity as a CIA analyst, to ask Crane and the others about their results with Geller. He had remained close-mouthed about the CIA’s own psi research, but that had been expected. As far as Crane was concerned, Kennett was their best hope for a private, quiet solution to the problem. He had parapsychological experience, biomedical training, and high-level security access-an extremely rare set of qualifications.

On a Saturday morning not long thereafter, at the end of an otherwise unrelated trip to the San Francisco Bay Area, Kennett drove over and met with Crane in a coffee shop in the town of Livermore. Crane set out the situation for him, and soon Kennett was having long meetings with Russo and the others. They perspired, trembled, and even wept openly as they related some of the things that had happened to them. It was as if their world had collapsed around them. Nothing made sense anymore...

aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com...



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Druscilla
Terms like Voice to Skull, MEDUSA, and others seem to crop up.


That's a first for me, I haven't heard that before.
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posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 10:10 PM
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Auditory Hallucinations? Again a big heck yeah!


From 1965 through to 1970, Defense Advanced Projects Research Agency (DARPA), with up to 70-80% funding provided by the military, set in motion operation PANDORA. This project was to study the health and psychological effects of low intensity microwaves with regard to the so called “Moscow signal” - an episode when the US embassy Moscow was bombarded by Soviet microwaves.

Pandora research included (under US Navy funding) studies demonstrating how to: induce heart seizures, create leaks in the blood brain barrier, and the production of auditory hallucinations.

Despite attempts to render the Pandora programme invisible to scrutiny, FOIA filings revealed memoranda of Richard Cesaro, Director, DARPA, which confirmed that the programme’s initial goal was to “discover whether a carefully controlled microwave signal could control the mind.” Cesaro urged that these studies be made “for potential weapons applications.”

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The interest is undeniable and we do have much reason to believe the technology has moved forward. It's a hard subject for folk to come face-to-face with. The mind shrinks in horror and says, nah. But, I say, "not so fast! Note Dr. Becker's assessment of the following case:


Have weapons of this nature been developed and field tested? Judged by the number of individuals and groups coming forward with complaints of harassment the answer, appears, to be yes. Kim Besley, of the Greenham Common Women’s Peace Camp[xxv], has compiled a fairly extensive catalogue of effects that have resulted from low frequency signals emanating from the US Greenham Common base, and, apparently, targeted upon the women protesters.

These include: vertigo, retinal bleeding, burnt face (even at night), nausea, sleep disturbances, palpitations, loss of concentration, loss of memory, disorientation, severe headaches, temporary paralysis, faulty speech co-ordination, irritability and a sense of panic in non-panic situations. Identical and similar effects have been reported elsewhere and appear to be fairly common-place amongst so called “victims”.

Many of these symptoms have been associated in medical literature with exposure to microwaves and especially through low intensity or non thermal exposures.These have been reviewed by Dr. Robert Becker, twice nominated for the Noebel Prize, and specialist in EM effects. His report confirms that the symptoms mirror those he would expect to see, had Microwave weapons been deployed.

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I betcha those ladies were zapped. Very MK-ULTRA to pick a group that they consider marginal to test on.

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posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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As someone who was "down the lasses on Greenham Common", dirty tricks? yes, secret weapons? well no. There use to be some quite nasty fallout from the fuels they used back then if you were exposed to them constantly and those lasses often spent months on station. Also the bods on the base took to running the jet's engine(s) in bunkers quite close by to where they were camped and the low frequency vibrations were mostly the ground rumbling from a large jet engine being run.

Also, a lot of these people came from "nice backgrounds" and going from living in suburbia to a "bender" is a huge change in conditions, badly cracked and dry skin causing lesions, eczema and often some nasty sores is not uncommon. The soil round that base was heavily polluted by contaminants from the engines and a host of other sources. They did make life as uncomfortable for them as possible, secret weapons? Honestly, in this case, I would say it was their own imaginations putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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You might be right on that one, FireMoon, but Dr. Becker's point is hard to totally dismiss. "Mirror" symptoms sounds a little close for comfort.

Either way, I think some of the documentation thus far suggests some scary concepts.

That music you sent me, btw, and the backstory...very cool...and scary, too! Now THAT story with a link to the tracks would make a GREAT thread.

Throw in some pics of the lass, and maybe her folks back in tha' day and gangbuster thread I guarantee.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 11:13 PM
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Putting my sound engineers hat on on this one. You can't control low frequencies they are omnipresent, in other words, they don;t seem to come from a specific point and they spread out uncontrollably. The Russkis certainly did try experiments with the "Brown sound" and had to abandon them as the effects were felt by those operating the equipment as much as anyone else. There is a "Mythbusters" about it however, their scientific method is totally flawed and in no way actually represents the results you might find in other circumstances. I believe in this video you will find a guy who gives it a more "proper explanation" and how it actually works. From about 18 minutes in



The bottom line is, the guys on the base would have been just as badly affected you can't "direct" low frequencies



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