Originally posted by Panic2k11
reply to post by nostromo85
they're not trying to destroy a country of the face of the map, like Iran is with Israel.
I sincerely do not get your point, the Anglo-Americans were behind the establishing of the nation of Israel, they are behind the weakness of the UN to
enforce all resolutions against Israel, they are behind the Israeli nuclear program and they have the blame not only for the general mishandling of
issues in the region but on the creation of the Iran problem. Most of what comes in rhetoric from Iran is a result of all this type of double-dealing
The US would never actively call out for the destruction of a nation, that type of rhetoric does not go well in the West, but look at Cuba, Iraq,
Libya and now Syria you could also examine closely the US involvement on the Yugoslav Wars and past behavior on South America. If this is not the
covert destruction of nations, by preventing keeping them to evolve any degree of independence. I'm not stating that the US is the only to blame in
all scenarios but it is their policy that if not outright creates the issues permits them to fester...
Do you think that Cuba would be the same without the embargo and general policy from the US towards them ? We wouldn't even have had Castro fall into
the Soviets sphere let alone a Cuban missile crisis had the US policy been fair and proactive attempting to solve the issue, the same gos to the
Palestinian problem, why do you think that most Arab nations if not outright a quasi protectorate of the US hates them.
I think you're maybe jumping the gun, on a HUGE scale here. After WW2, Jewish people were leaving Europe in all directions, and heading into
Palestine way before Britain handed over control to form the state of Israel. America has nothing to do with it, and also to note, there was a civil
war inbetween WW2 and the formation of Israel in '48 between Arabs and Jews, so Iran wanting to do what it is saying it will, is nothing new at
Also, if Israel didn't have nukes (if that what you meant by a nuclear program), then they'd be invaded by Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, pretty much
all of its neighbours (like Yom Kippur), and you'd have another Holocaust. I don't get why people have such a huge problem with them having nukes
when you look at the scenario. They're surrounded by people who want to get rid of them and they've had nukes for decades and showed more restraint
to not using them then America has, as we all know. On the other hand, (back to Iran), not only do they keep mentioning how then want to destroy
Israel, but they have enriched their Uranium way past a grade for just medical or energy usage, combined with the fact they will not comply with the
IAEA who are basically trying to do them a favour if what they say is true, that they want a nuclear program for energy.
As for double dealing and meddling, In this case we have a right to meddle in their affairs if they're trying to build weapons to make good on their
promises to take out a group of people.
As for the other nations you mentioned, Well the U.S. never got involved officially with Libya, and even if they organised a covert overthrow of
Ghadaffii, good! Don't forget its the same guy who blew up a 747 over Lockerbie and other general D**K moves to promote or conduct terrorism in the
west since the '70's.
As for the Yugoslav, I do recall a certain Slobodan Milosavic commiting genocide on Muslims and like Ghadaffi for that matter, evicting anyone he
didn't like from his land. So, once again, Well done everyone for getting rid of another tyrant the world didn't need. Same for Saddam Hussein, for
gassing his own population, it's just a shame we all went to war to protect Kuwaiti oil rather then lives on that one.
As for what I think about the U.S/Cuba, Well I don't really know all that much about that, but yes, the united states do appear to be a little harsh
The problem is that ATS is full of people right now who just want to bash the US for its policy for taking care of scum who commit genocide, and
eventually its going to end up that someone is going to come along, possibly the Iranians, who will make good on their promise one day and then
you'll all be shocked that America didn't do anything because you've been whining about it.