100-year Starship program: The U.S government's method of slowly introducing UFO technology to the

Hundred-year Starship initiative

The 100 Year Starship (100YSS) is a joint U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - National Aeronautics and Space Administration grant project to a private entity in order to work toward achieving interstellar travel. The aim of the project, announced in January 2012, is to work toward achieving interstellar travel within the next 100 years.

Notice the bolded "private entity". Wouldn't it now be convenient for many private defense contractors who have been accused of having secretly done, or at least attempted, to reverse-engineer UFO technology under the Special Access Program, to start slowly releasing the technology bit-by-bit in order to pass it off as "breakthroughs"?

This is purely speculation, of course. But I just thought I'd put it here. Assuming the very low likelihood the American government has advanced UFO technology hidden from the public, perhaps this is their way of "disclosure"?

After all, what could explain funding something so ridiculous as attempting to achieve interstellar travel in the next 100 years when the greater scientific community has already accepted the notion that humans will likely never explore outside the solar system, let alone in 100 years? Even NASA's former propulsion experts who were paid to work for years in researching breakthroughs in interstellar travel say that the technology will not be available for another 2-4 centuries to send probes to distant star systems, if ever. One of these is Mark Millus:

Imagine we merely wanted to launch a small, 11-ton probe that took 75 years to get to our closest star, Alpha Centauri. That’s only about four light-years away. A fairly modest goal. Regardless of what type of propulsion technology is used, that probe would need a jaw-dropping amount of power just to accelerate out to Alpha Centauri and then decelerate once it gets there. (This is based on the kinetic energy of the probe — by Millis’s calculations it would take, at absolute minimum, 8.1 x 10^16 Watts of power.)


And humans don’t exactly have that energy just lying around. For the past three decades, the total energy produced by the world has grown at a modest pace — around 1.9 percent per year. And humans have devoted just a tiny fraction of that to spaceflight. Unless either of those trends changes radically, Millis calculates, we won’t have the energy needed to launch an Alpha Centauri probe until sometime around the year 2463, at the earliest.

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I think we can achieve it, with or without UFO technology.
It's hard to imagine the progress we'll achieve in the next 100 years, let alone the next few centuries.

We progress exponentially and once we hit the "singularity" it's relatively impossible to predict what happens next.
Ray Kurzweil expects the singularity to happen mid-century.

The technological singularity occurs as artificial intelligences surpass human beings as the smartest and most capable life forms on the Earth. Technological development is taken over by the machines, who can think, act and communicate so quickly that normal humans cannot even comprehend what is going on. The machines enter into a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new generation of A.I.s appearing faster and faster. From this point onwards, technological advancement is explosive, under the control of the machines, and thus cannot be accurately predicted (hence the term "Singularity")

a hundred years, please they could do it in 20 years if all the governments of the world collaborated. Each country sharing there secret tech

I love how billionaires are able to steal our tax money to fund their schemes. They take 'grants' and use that money to exploit us. It ludicrous.

I say let the billionaires fund this fantasy themselves. People are homeless and they are stealing taxpayer money for this stuff?

Originally posted by mayki
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I think we can achieve it, with or without UFO technology.
It's hard to imagine the progress we'll achieve in the next 100 years, let alone the next few centuries.

We progress exponentially and once we hit the "singularity" it's relatively impossible to predict what happens next. Ray Kurzweil expects the singularity to happen mid-century.

Very true. It's only "impossible" if we use today's known technology. When "they" started the human genome sequencing project, the speed of computers of the day were so slow that it would have taken thousands of years to do it. And although those doing the sequencing were planning on faster computers being available in the future, the progress along these lines was so much faster than expected that the project was finished ahead of schedule.

If our vision of what is possible only seees as far as the end of our shoes, we're not going to get very far very fast.

Just a thought... Has it occurred to anyone that we might not be welcome? We have our space and it's called Earth. Far as I can tell, other than sending out robotics into the universe, we haven't left Earth's low orbit since the 70's. Perhaps there is a reason for that. For all we know, we're grounded, by powers far more advanced than ourselves.

Is there any other way it should be?

I think this is rather nice that the subject is being explored.
Currently there's fusion propulsion on the table that would make a trip to Mars a matter of a few weeks compared to the current 6 month journey.
There's also other theoretical propulsion systems that aren't as viable for interplanetary travel as they would be for System to System Interstellar travel like Bussard Ramjet.

Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth
Just a thought... Has it occurred to anyone that we might not be welcome? We have our space and it's called Earth. Far as I can tell, other than sending out robotics into the universe, we haven't left Earth's low orbit since the 70's. Perhaps there is a reason for that. For all we know, we're grounded, by powers far more advanced than ourselves.

Is there any other way it should be?

Regarding the concept of being "welcome", until such time as we see any indication that there's anyone else 'out there' to protest, then, we essentially have the green light to go by default.
So long as there's no indication of anyone else out there, then, the Galaxy is a big empty house just waiting our eager exploration.

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i can agree almost entirely to your post, it makes perfect sense. we begin going to space, land on the moon, and then we just stop going, WTF?

also around the same time as the moon landings, the U.S. .gov began to systematically deny any and all UFO encounters, flat out. Kinda like they already know what they are, so they arent worried about it.

It makes one wander, what if they contacted the first on the moon, or we found somthing on the moon, that detered us from any further adventures in space. It would help explain all the "code words" used in the audio from the lunar astronauts. I mean what point is there in using code words for natural geological phemonena? you clearly hear them using words they find to be unnatural for their use, as it seems very clumsy when they report to mission control somtimes. If there was nothing to hide, than why not just say, "you see that foot hill over there?" instead of " i spotted a wilma renault, over to your right side"( example text only not a real appollo transcript, i was to lazy to look it up right now). There are like 30 different conversations from the appollo astronauts to mission control where they just switch to using this "jargon" out of nowhere for no observable reason that many aside from myself can define.

Not to mention, we havent evolved technologically at all really since the 50's, we had cars, they just get better gas mileage now, we had airplanes, they havent made one better than the SR71 since 55 i think it was when they made it. Computers have gotten smaller and faster, but no real breakthroughs, cell phones...meh we have had walkie talkies since world war 2, cell phones are just a combination telephone/computer. no real inovation there either.

The point i am attempting to make is, that we went from horse and buggie to aiplanes cars and spaceshuttles in less than 100 years, and havent gone anywhere since the 50's really. like we are intentionally being held back or somthing.

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They 100% have anti-gravity technology and many other suppressed forms. And any time a civilian makes a breakthrough privately.... Killed, Co-opted, abducted into black ops facility's. If their lucky they get publicly destroyed through character assassination.

Nikola Tesla, Otis.T Carr. and many others

just because thre USA think their the big guy on the block..
Does not mean that their can hole a candle to the rest of themmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Druscilla
I think this is rather nice that the subject is being explored.

Same here.

Originally posted by DruscillaThere's also other theoretical propulsion systems that aren't as viable for interplanetary travel as they would be for System to System Interstellar travel like Bussard Ramjet.

That's very interesting, because I remember reading a few years ago that the Ramjet was ruled impractical due to the major fact it relied on the theory that hydrogen is abundant throughout the vacuum of space, until current research in astronomy has shown the contrary, but don't quote me on that (I'll check).

Warp drive can kill you, says physicists.

Interesting. It seems that even if truly wanted to accomplish this, the most easiest and logical method of attempting to go very fast and reach the destination in a reasonable time is out of the window. Ergo, the type of technology needed to circumvent this massive issue would be a few millennia away, based on our current primitive science. That is, unless our science is not primitive and hence the type of technology would ever exist in the first place.

And that's where these advanced civilizations come in. If they can get here, assuming they are here and our government is really hiding them, then they certainly have circumvented all problems associated with interstellar travel to have gotten here in the first place.

Originally posted by freemarketsocialist
I love how billionaires are able to steal our tax money to fund their schemes. They take 'grants' and use that money to exploit us. It ludicrous.

I say let the billionaires fund this fantasy themselves. People are homeless and they are stealing taxpayer money for this stuff?

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Yeah they should never have funded Christopher Columbus, Newton, Tesla, Edison or Shockley. Forget developing new technology or firing up the imagination of young inventors and explorers. Let's instead wallow in misery over a problem that we can never solve until the return of the Lord.

Looks like 1.1 million has been put towards research, we are well on our way lol

No Private Corporation should own anything in space. I don't think its ethical for corporations to even own satellites.

What if Corporations used their space based assets, a satellite to increase profits or hurt their competittion? Say Corporation X used their X Band transmitters on their satellites to burst a signal at Utah to fry everyones say smart appliance to hurt the other corporations bottom line?

You set up a situation where Corporations start going to war with each other with their space based assets. Eventually they would be used against people to make them sick, drop dead, or even just late to work using methods and tactics Corporations gain with space based assets.

It's a scary future for mankind and the poor souls of our future. Will Corporations start using their space based assets to start deciding who walks this Earth? We're at the level of technology today.

Yes, one wonders about the coincidence......

Man Lands on the Moon in July 1969...

Air Force Project Blue Book Terminated in December 17 1969....

Of course they didnt see any UFOs on the Moon.....

Seriously, you mean all the accumulated knowledge since the early 1900s, and they are still contemplating send man into space in a Tin Can??

Tesla, Nazi Bell and other secret developments which were REAL!!!!, Electromagnetic Power..Which is REAL..
We have the knowledge....unfortunately the Military and Black Ops secret societies seem to have it tied up.

Just a few months ago NASA said there May be "Magnetic Highways" between planets/Galaxys/Stars etc.

In 1968, a contactee was told "they" use EMP to travel on the "Magnetic Highways between Universal bodies"
Read it here....rune.galactic.to...

Whether anybody believes "The Koldasians" or not, is now moot....NASA Believes it, or they wouldnt have postulated it.

We have only JUST found out, that the Mars probe uses a Nuclear Battery..not solar panels, and does not need charging.....So where did that tech come from?....And what a perfect way to power your EMP motors.
I bet they already have Battery tech that is far beyond what is commercially available to "people".

Imagine what all the "Skunk Worx" in the US have come up with in the past 60 years...then there is the Russians, the Germans, the British.........

Tin Can Indeed!!

We are stuck in the mud as a nation / planet when it comes to advancing into space. The last time the American people had a sense of unity was during the Apollo missions. President Kennedy's speech was the last speech made by a President that was able to captivate the nation. It was the last time the American people had lofty goals and challenged to do great things.

Since then it just seems like our own government is depressed and cannot concentrate.

We need another challenge like the Apollo missions.. We need the government to spend more money on space technology / advanced technology and less on subsidies.

We must get a government who has the drive and ambition to once again put forth a program that reflects the US as a whole. As with Kennedy if the government can outline the plan then the American people can fill in the voids.

I am absolutely sick and tired of our governments lack of of doing great things. I am sick and tired of wallstreet being bailed out to the tune of a trillion plus dollars while NASA continually has their funding cut (NASA budget request for 2012 is 18 billion).

If we could have had that much money, a trillion plus, invested into NASA / businesses we might have already been exploring Alpha Centauri / Proxima centauri.

Just my 2 cents..


Engineer Wants Us To Build Real-Life Starship Enterprise

A systems and electrical engineer who goes by BTE-Dan says we should build the USS Starship Enterprise and claims we can do it -- today.

Nancy Atkinson of space and astronomy news site Universe Today picked up on a website launched by BTE-Dan on May 7, which provides a thorough overview of how the U.S. could build the Starship Enterprise in just twenty years.

His site includes layouts of the proposed ship's size and specs, potential missions it could undertake, a schedule outlining its development and even a backup plan should the ship's creation be thrown off schedule.

According to the site, the USS Starship Enterprise would be able to reach Mars in just 90 days. Compare the Enterprise's travel time to that of the last rover NASA sent to Mars: The Curiosity was launched last November and is scheduled to land in August, nine months after it was sent off.

Buildtheenterprise.org

Originally posted by gort51
We have only JUST found out, that the Mars probe uses a Nuclear Battery..not solar panels, and does not need charging.....So where did that tech come from?

Human nuclear engineering. Technology is many decades old. The first was was launched in 1961.

....And what a perfect way to power your EMP motors.
I bet they already have Battery tech that is far beyond what is commercially available to "people".

Sure thing. There are batteries which run on beta decay. Once upon a time, pacemakers were run on plutonium, and their power lasted longer than the human host. Now, you can't get them any more.

Now. How much are each one of these going to cost? (The Curiosity RTG is undoubtably well over $10 million US, perhaps even $100 million. The US doesn't even make the Pu238 any more.) What are the environmental regulations? Are they a commercial mass-produced product?

There were 1000s produced in the USSR. They are considered potentially dangerous radiological hazards, because you can't trust people not to be idiots.

If... "100-year Starship program: The U.S government's method of slowly introducing UFO technology"... then I'm sure the surviving cannibals of the year 2112 will appreciate the TR-3B's anti-gravity secrets.

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If this is the case then we'll see the rise of a real life Weyland Yutani Corporation and we all know how they operate in space and not to mention they would sacrifice employees just to get UFOs and aliens.