The United States - Rode hard and put away wet.

“I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”
― Thomas Jefferson

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In 1913 this country was sold down the river by Thomas Woodrow Wilson the 28th President of the United States, from 1913 to 1921, by signing the Federal Reserve Act in late 1913.

“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world - no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” ― Woodrow Wilson

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Since then we have been rode hard through Two World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, a bunch of smaller conflicts, the Gulf Wars and our current War on Terrorism. Now we are about to be put away wet through an Economic collapse that may make the great depression look like a holiday in the sun.

Since the passage of NAFTA in 1994 America has lost approximately 50,000 manufacturing plants to overseas countries. This does not include the myriad numbers that have gone out of business. This makes economic recovery of the economy virtually impossible. The President and Congress do not seem to understand basic economics. Without jobs the people have no money to spend, let alone to pay taxes with.

No job = No Income = No Income Taxes Owed = Lower Tax Base for the Government to play with.

If the people cannot afford to buy the things they need, then the business incomes soon follow and business’ close for lack of customers and income. When a business cannot make a profit then it can no longer stay in business and it is closed, or moves to a country where it can make a profit. If it closes or moves, then it is no longer paying taxes to the government. Again, resulting in a Lower Tax Base for the Government to play… use for all of the services it offers.

There is an old saying “You can’t get Blood out of a Turnip” for the purpose of this discussion that means that there is no Bank or Government that can take what you do not have. They will try though, rather than cut back on Government spending and services.

“You can’t get Blood out of a Turnip”

But they can take the turnip.

reply to post by deadeyedick


Yes they can, although the U.S. supposedly doesn't have debtors prison. Get behind on child support payments or Taxes and see if they don't put you in jail.

Originally posted by RedmoonMWC

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There is an old saying “You can’t get Blood out of a Turnip” for the purpose of this discussion that means that there is no Bank or Government that can take what you do not have. They will try though, rather than cut back on Government spending and services.

The reverse applies as well... and we will soon find out the magnitude of the scam by how this is now unraveling in their hands.

You see they don;t really deal in wealth or money at all... it's all credit.. debt... "virtual."

If the day comes when we demand an accounting of trillions in world deficits and "debts" we will find they can not produce it. Because it never existed in the first place.

The scam was well-played, and the reality of the move was far from self-evident to those who were the immediate benefactors of the change.

Woodrow Wilson was a university academician, an excellent example of institutions of higher learning, well-read, well-educated, well-spoken (more or less)... his ego was perfect for the exploitation of the mega-business interests that schmoozed him with moral and monetary support to become a president "from within the right kind of people." Only too late did he realize he was a pawn whose value was strictly temporary.

It took the global central banking cartel a long time to finally take permanent root in America, and to do so they found themselves having to outright purchase scores of influential newspapers so all the 'informed' people would hear exactly what they wanted them to hear... things like "it will protect American wealth' and "serve American monetary policy without the corruption of political expedience"... which was not ever the point of their actions.. but they are above the law when it comes to intervention.. the Federal Reserve's sovereignty is NEVER in question.

But even then there were always political players who knew from the onset that something terrible had happened to our nation... most of their careers ended in tragedy, disgrace, or "somehow." fading away.

It wasn't until they finally found a political president who could be convinced that the US had to go off the gold standard (thank you Richard Millhouse Nixon) that their true dream came true.

From that point forward it was make-believe money... there are no trillions... just numbers on a ledger, entries in a spreadsheet... you want money to buy a house? Funny... you'll never see it. Because it's never there... so if you later can't make the payments for the house - the bank gets it - almost for free (since banks are "insured" against most consumer "bad debt.")

We did have at least one president who tried to reverse the damage done to this country's sovereignty... he used Executive Order 11110 to authorize the United States treasury to print silver-backed currency for use in the US as legal tender.... but unfortunately he was assassinated and his VP quickly withdrew from the initiative.

But I digress... my point is that the Global Supranational Banking Cartel is reaching the point of being too powerful to hide behind anonymity any more. Things could get ugly if the real 'confidence' aspect of the operation becomes evident.... global monetary racketeering has created a club of power in the world... and it's demise will be both by it's own hands and disruptive enough to hurt all mankind.... way to"protect" and "serve" so-called "quasi-governmental" institutions.... It has already gotten to the point where only the willfully blind will not see.

Originally posted by Maxmars

Originally posted by RedmoonMWC

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There is an old saying “You can’t get Blood out of a Turnip” for the purpose of this discussion that means that there is no Bank or Government that can take what you do not have. They will try though, rather than cut back on Government spending and services.

The reverse applies as well... and we will soon find out the magnitude of the scam by how this is now unraveling in their hands.

You see they don;t really deal in wealth or money at all... it's all credit.. debt... "virtual."

If the day comes when we demand an accounting of trillions in world deficits and "debts" we will find they can not produce it. Because it never existed in the first place.

The scam was well-played, and the reality of the move was far from self-evident to those who were the immediate benefactors of the change.

... my point is that the Global Supranational Banking Cartel is reaching the point of being too powerful to hide behind anonymity any more. Things could get ugly if the real 'confidence' aspect of the operation becomes evident.... global monetary racketeering has created a club of power in the world... and it's demise will be both by it's own hands and disruptive enough to hurt all mankind.... way to"protect" and "serve" so-called "quasi-governmental" institutions.... It has already gotten to the point where only the willfully blind will not see.

Agreed, the willfully blind will have their eyes opened only when it directly affects them. My fear is that the people of this world will have a violent uprising against these Bankers and their Government puppets. My Hope is that it happens quickly if it must happen.

There has always been, and will always be, at least three classes, those with more, those with less and those in the middle. Ideally the middle class would be the largest with just a few on top and (Hopefully) even fewer in poverty. As it is going now the Bottom is growing and the Middle is shrinking while the Top stays mostly static.

Currently the few on top are the ones that have been manipulating the money supply and governments for their benefit only.

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This guy knew what he was talking about.

reply to post by On the Edge


Yup... it's like a 'perfect storm' created to suck the wealth out of the American public before they realize a) what's happening; and b) that we don't have to accept it.

Their main problem is ... how to remain hidden? They are only now realizing that the public is not the 'dumb animal' their doctrine says they are. They forgot... eventually humans learn.

and Wilson......they passed the bill on december 23rd...no one was even there...but it was passed....or maybe howa about crammed down our fathers throats....

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What to do? What do you think the percentage of the blind americans is currently? I'd say a whooping 60 - 70%.

The government continues to hand out just enough to keep the ever-burdeoning welfare class relatively numb.
Our schools just keep dumbing down the majority of our children.

What will a financial collapse actually look like?

I guess the jobs will come back when Americans are forced to accept slave wages or nothing at all.

By the way,did anyone catch the mean looks from Bush and Clinton while Perot was speaking?
Guess the camera-folk weren't so good at keeping everything so polished back then.