reply to post by ALF88
Parchin is a military installation. Therefore there is no violation of the NPT, if they don't grant access.
You are correct.
But if there is evidence that the possibility of Iran using that facility to pursue nuclear weapons, then Iran should allow access to it. Like I said
multiple time, the terms of that access can be negotiated.
What matters here is that if you agree with something like the NPT, you must do everything in your power to show your intentions. Iran has secrets,
and has the right to governmental privacy. But shouldn't we support transparency? I'm not talking about Iran, but to all countries.
In my opinion, if you are going to participate in something like the NPT, then you should be aware that the members will make huge amounts of pressure
in case there is the smallest amount of suspicion.
Can they ask Iran to allow inspectors to access it? Yes, but they can't expect to be granted access or threaten Iran with war, period!
The West, Israel and the UN have to back off.
I disagree that Iran should negate all types of access, but I agree they don't need to allow full access. Like I said in my previous reply to your
post, it's as simple as covering sensitive information but allowing inspectors to search for radiation evidence.
In another thread I was speaking with several members about radiation detection technology, and we have tech that is able to detect radiation from
space. I'm sure that the IAEA has measurement tools that allow them to search an area - a bunker, storage units, crates - without having to see what
kind of weapons or explosives are being developed.
It's a matter of giving something to them in return for full cooperation from the whole agency.
As for Israel, although some people paint me as pro-Israel, I don't support their offensive rhetoric. In my opinion, Israel is only in IAEA with
no-member or non-signatory status, which takes away their credibility and power to influence IAEA decisions.
Israel words and stand only makes the whole issue worst. It's like background noise when people are trying to solve thing's through negotiation.
Their job is to check if Iran complies with the NPT, nothing more, nothing less.
Yes, but you should be aware that complying with the NPT means no pursuit of nuclear weapons. They have to check facilities in order to know if they
are actually complying with the NPT or not. As sad as it may be, we can't trust the word of governments or leaders...
You are using the plural (places) again. What places are those? So far you have only mentioned Parchin.
I apologize, that was my mistake for not clearing that up.
What I mean is that Iran blocks access to key locations inside bigger facilities. Someone (can't remember which member) compared it to allowing
police to search your house, but deny access to a closet.
Iran does allow access to all surface facilities, or has allowed access after further negotiation. But they deny access to certain parts of the
facilities. One of which was suspected to have high-velocity explosives.
I'm sure you are aware of the recent buzz about the clean-up job.
Again if I was Iran I wouldn't let my enemies access military installations and expose my military capabilities and secrets either.
Why? I don't understand that logic, with all due respect.
Iran doesn't have anything that the U.S. or any allied country doesn't have better or in larger numbers. If you are referring to military power
assessment, then the CIA, Mossad and other intelligence agencies have plenty of resources to know exactly that.
However, we are talking about specific spots in a building that could have illegal nuclear material. Military power is very easy to understand. The
U.S. and the Soviet Union did it to each-other for decades.
(...)especially if you consider the fact that Iran accuses the IAEA to have given secret information about their nuclear scientists to the US
and Israel (...)
Yes, but why are you dismissing as invalid the accusations of Iran hiding stuff from the IAEA? I'm not trying to be offensive or disrespectful, but
you seem to have double standards.
As we debate further, it appears that you believe in one side, but refuse what the other says. In that way, we are not talking about the truth or
In that case we don't need the NPT. Either it is the same for everybody or we abolish it.
How can you talk about freedom and right's to privacy, and then impose a treaty to the world?
It's voluntary. Which makes Iran even more responsible to cooperate and facilitate the investigations. If Iran doesn't want IAEA to study them, then
they should leave. And leave the US and Western dollars they received at the IAEA when they leave. Many people often forget about that...