Russia announces enormous finds of radioactive waste and nuclear reactors in Arctic seas, page 4


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reply posted on 31-8-2012 @ 02:31 AM by Astyanax
reply to post by ModernAcademia


I had some really fresh, juicy prawns for lunch yesterday. Yummy, they were.

Today, I'm having some Chicken Littles for breakfast.


reply posted on 31-8-2012 @ 09:45 AM by boeserwolf
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There is currently no safe way to dispose of radioactive wastes. Scientists have developed an energy system with no anus in a world whose basic principle is recycling. Components of spent uranium remain dangerously radioactive for 4.5 billion years. We are not capable of building anything that will last 4.5 billion years.


reply posted on 31-8-2012 @ 10:02 AM by Gorman91
reply to post by ModernAcademia



River fish are fine if the river is clean. Bottom feeders are a no no.


reply posted on 31-8-2012 @ 10:17 AM by moonsighter
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Yeah, the US does the noble thing and turns they're depleted uranium into ammunition and shoots it at other people. Don't you know there is no safe way to dispose of this stuff? Do you think putting it in metal barrels and burying it in the ground, only to leak out and destroy things in the future is something honorable?


reply posted on 31-8-2012 @ 10:55 AM by GarrusVasNormandy
reply to post by wrkn4livn



You guys are talking about this accident:

1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

The Tybee Island B-47 crash was an incident on February 5, 1958, in which the United States Air Force lost a 7,600-pound (3,400 kg) Mark 15 hydrogen bomb in the waters off Tybee Island near Savannah, Georgia, USA. During a practice exercise the B-47 bomber carrying it collided in midair with an F-86 fighter plane. To protect the aircrew from a possible detonation in the event of a crash, the bomb was jettisoned.


Highlight by me.

The same article also states:

t about 2:00 AM, the B-47 collided with an F-86. The F-86 crashed after the pilot ejected from the plane, but the B-47, despite being damaged, remained airborne, albeit barely. The crew requested permission to jettison the bomb in order to reduce weight and prevent the bomb from exploding during an emergency landing. Permission was granted and the bomb was jettisoned at 7,200 feet (2,200 m) while the bomber was traveling about 200 knots (370 km/h). The crew did not see an explosion when the bomb struck the sea. They managed to land B-47 safely at Hunter Air Force Base, later Hunter Army Air Field. The pilot, Colonel Howard Richardson, was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross after this incident for his role in piloting the B-47.


The aircraft landed safely, but apparently there are some concerns as to the state of the nuclear warhead casing and possible contamination to the surrounding area:

The risk of corrosion of the alloy casing of the bomb is less if it is completely covered in sand. But if part of the alloy casing of the bomb is exposed to seawater due to the shifting strata in which it is buried, rapid corrosion could occur, as demonstrated in simulation experiments. Eventually, the highly enriched uranium could be leached out of the device and enter the aquifer that surrounds the continental shelf in this area. Storms, hurricanes, and strong currents frequently change the sands of the continental shelf near Tybee Island.

To date, no undue levels of unnatural radioactive contamination (over and above the already high levels thought to be due to monazite, a locally occurring sand which is naturally high in radiation) have been detected in the regional Upper Floridian aquifer by the Georgia Department of Natural Resources.


In relation to the recovery efforts, that article only states the following:

Starting on February 6, 1958, the Air Force 2700th Explosive Ordnance Disposal Squadron and 100 Navy personnel equipped with hand held sonar and galvanic drag and cable sweeps mounted a search. On April 16, 1958 the military announced that the search efforts had been unsuccessful. Based upon a hydrologic survey, the bomb was thought by the Department of Energy to lie buried under 5 to 15 feet (2 to 5 m) of silt at the bottom of Wassaw Sound.

In 2004, retired Air Force Colonel Derek Duke claimed to have narrowed the possible resting spot of the bomb to a small area approximately the size of a football field. He and his partner located the area by trawling the area in their boat with a Geiger counter in tow. Secondary radioactive particles 4 times the naturally occurring levels were detected and mapped, and the site of radiation origination triangulated.


It seems that they have detected a possible location, but the article doesn't mention any active recovery effort other than the one of Colonel Derek Duke.

Hope this helped.
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