Masonic Pouch?

So I was browsing an antique store yesterday with my girlfriend, and came across this pouch. I was hoping the Brethren here might tell me what it's called and used for. I was also trying to find if the lodge still functions or has gone dark?




Bro.B Slivester
Boro Of Greenwich Lodge
NO. 2332



Masonic Rooms, William IV Hotel, Trafalgar Road, Greenwich, London






www.freemasonry.london.museum...

I can't help you with the source...
But I will say that I can only imagine the documents that satchel held at one time.
The secrets, the accusations, the plans...incredible...
Too bad it was empty....or was it?



Great find...I would've swept that one up too!

reply to post by Sauron


Looks like a pouch for the documents of the secretary or funds carried by the treasurer, maybe?

A visit to this link revealed an absence of a lodge in Greenwich UK.

reply to post by havok


Yes, clearly its where they carry their plans for world domination

Thing is I'm not sure if you'd fit all the 9/11, new world order, brainwashing, vaccines, chemtrail, Illuminati, bank cartel, satanic rituals, project blue-beam, Obama's birth certificate and other general world domination plans or documents all in that little pouch.

Originally posted by Sauron
So I was browsing an antique store yesterday with my girlfriend, and came across this pouch. I was hoping the Brethren here might tell me what it's called and used for.

Er, I so went somewhere else in my mind when I saw the title.

To be serious, it looks like it may have held a ritual cipher.

reply to post by Sauron


I found this similar photo in a closed antique auction. The auction and link below also contain documents that may have been in the pouch.



Here is the link, photo partway down the page.

www.bidorbuy.co.za...

Des

It could have also held a Masonic passport. In Europe passports (credentials) that ease visitation in foreign Lodges, having nothing to do with actual travel documents. I have such a passport issued by my Order that is in a sense my dues card but also my degree status. It is about the same sze as a cipher book, so it is also a possibility.

Originally posted by no1smootha
It could have also held a Masonic passport.

I think your answer makes more sense seeing that it is a European bag.

reply to post by Destinyone


Thank you for the link it explains the reason for this pouch to me.
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I also came across some old Grand Lodge Collars, jewels and cuffs for district 4.?

reply to post by Sauron
Augustus was correct.
A cipher, by-laws and constitution.

reply to post by no1smootha


indeed I assumed it was for something along those lines, I guess the little pocket in the back of our aprons have replaced this pouch?

reply to post by Sauron
Yes, that little pocket is useful for keeping alms at hand too. I'd like to find one of those wallets to keep my Masonic documents in when I travel.

This website mentions the lodge and says it was founded in 1888.

www.mega.nu...

Each area also has a listing of all its masonic lodges and chapters, indeed, the yearbook reveals that, for the questioner's address, a borough of Greenwich Lodge - number 2332 - was founded in 1888. It undoubtably serves as a lodge for both masonic councillors and council officers in Greenwich. The masonic yearbook reveals that this lodge holds its annual inaugural meeting at Freemason's Hall in Covent Garden on the third Saturday each December - this year Saturday 20th. Simply turn up on the day and watch your local masonic councillors arrive for the event!

This site says James ("Jimmy") Jarche joined it in 1922.

www.freemasonry.london.museum...

James ("Jimmy") Jarche (1890 - 1965) Wrestling At the age of 19, Jarché became world amateur wrestling middleweight champion. He subsequently became a noted press photographer. In 1922 he joined Borough of Greenwich Lodge No 2332.

Can't find much on the lodge.

Originally posted by no1smootha
reply to post by Sauron

 

Yes, that little pocket is useful for keeping alms at hand too. I'd like to find one of those wallets to keep my Masonic documents in when I travel.

I saw just about everything for sale here....

www.masonicmemorabilia.org...

Des

reply to post by JBA2848


I couldn't find much my self either, but. I admit it was not much of a search, though I had seen the sports page link, as you say it's not much.

I found the Lodge but did not find a date it closed or went dormant.? totallackey provided a link showing no listing for the Lodge 2332.


Thank you for the info on the lodge too

reply to post by Destinyone


great I spend enough time looking at Masonic stores as it is







I book marked it

reply to post by Sauron


Let your friends and family know...Christmas is just around the corner.....

Des

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Er, I so went somewhere else in my mind when I saw the title.

LOL your flap is sticking up


I also sadly I think, picked up a Brothers 33rd & Last Degree wall display dated 14th July 1944 Murton Lodge Of Perfection

IT'S NOT A MAN-PURSE, IT'S A SATCHEL!

They are very popular in Europe. I keep my Skittles in there.

The pouch is used by wandering masons when traveling from west to east while the sun is as its meridian.