Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Runciter33
That's fine ... as it applies to those cases.
If you want to generalize, and thereby label every single finding in science you disagree with as being government sponsored and tainted, then, please, by all means don't throw a fit when someone brings up a few cases of people that are very obviously suffering from a severe mental pathology when they also over generalize (which I have not yet done) in saying ALL alien abduction people are such.
Now, if you'd like to find links that are RELEVANT to the specific papers and links I've cited, then, we might have something to talk about.
If you want to play Blanket Party Generalization in using a few non related cases to generalize all of science, then, you might expect others to play by the same rules.
Oh i'm fully aware of the harm of hypnosis, i studied this and a variety of different things as i have said previously regarding Psychology. There are several well documented cases of psychiatrists or therapists of some sort or another using shady practices and basically programming people on a subconscious level. I am under no obligation to view your links, as you are not obligated to view mine. It is easy enough to link things, but that doesn't make them true. I already know the power of suggestion and hypnosis can do, no need to convince me of that.
I was not quoting that as a blanket answer to everything, so you are putting words in my mouth there. By the same token, i'm quite certain the links you provided and your alleged evidence which may well be well founded, does not account for all cases either. So the question remains, if even *ONE* case is unexplained, then you have an unknown. To speculate beyond the data, as i have also said previously, is, in my opinion foolhardy.
Another point i'd like to make is that unless you have had such an experience yourself, then you cannot claim to be some sort of expert on it. Were you there when these alleged abduction experiences occured? If not, your commentary on any one of them cannot be complete. You may, as you have done, talk in general terms from studies you have read (not done yourself either, i am assuming) Therefore everything you say is based upon what you have read. True of untrue? If true, what makes you think what you have read from whatever sources you have cited, are any more credible than mine or any others? Can *YOU* prove that? Other than to say "but accepted science says...." because as i have cited, established science has a bias and conflict of interest in the medical community... hypnosis and psychiatry is very much related to the abduction phenomenon, so i would say that it is a relevant and valid connection to make.