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That is quite possible. They are the "visitors" from southpark. I believe from the first episode. but you have inspired me to change my avatar to something less suggestive.
Originally posted by OnionHead
reply to post by ZetaRediculian
BTW the reality is your avatar looks like 4 massive headed sperms trying to enter 3 eggs
Until similar documented counterpoint of topical relevance is offered for debate, the premise that the majority of Alien Contact accounts can be attributed to Psychological Phenomenon will stand as my stance on the subject, and until such debate with proper citation is presented such that challenges this position sufficiently to topple this position, said position will stand.
Though expecting mystical raptures and deep psychological insights, in his study he was astonished to find many of his volunteers reporting unexpected encounters with strange and sometimes disturbing alien beings with advanced technology in what amounted to classical UFO "abduction" experiences. Unable to explain away the volunteers' experiences, he concluded that these were genuine encounters with independent sentient beings in otherwise normally invisible dimensions
Rick Strassman, M.D. is a medical researcher who conducted the first U.S.-government-approved-and-funded clinical research with psychedelic drugs in over twenty years. These studies, which took place between 1990 and 1995, investigated the effects of '___' (N,N-dimethyltryptamine), a powerful naturally-occurring hallucinogen. During the project’s five years, Dr. Strassman administered approximately four hundred doses of '___' to 60 human volunteers. This research took place at the University of New Mexico’s School of Medicine in Albuquerque, where he was tenured Associate Professor of Psychiatry.
Dr. Strassman holds degrees from Stanford University, where he received Department Honors in Biology and Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, where he was a member of the Davidoff Honor Society. He took his internship and general psychiatry residency at the University of California, Davis, Medical Center in Sacramento, and received the Sandoz Award for outstanding graduating resident in 1981. He spent ten years as a tenured professor at the University of New Mexico, performing clinical research investigating the function of the pineal hormone melatonin, in which his research group documented the first known role of melatonin in humans.
Dr. Strassman has published thirty peer-reviewed scientific papers and serves as a reviewer for several medical and psychiatric research journals. He has been a consultant to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, National Institute on Drug Abuse, Veterans’ Administration Hospitals, Social Security Administration, and other state and local agencies.
In 1984 Dr. Strassman received lay ordination in a Western Buddhist order. He co-founded, and for several years administered, a lay Buddhist meditation group associated with the same order. Dr. Strassman currently practices psychiatry in Gallup, New Mexico and is Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry in the University of New Mexico School of Medicine.
Dr. Strassman is also the author of the book '___': The Spirit Molecule, which is a compelling and fascinating account of his research with psychedelics. In the book he discusses how '___' may be involved in near-death experiences, alien abduction encounters, and mystical experiences. As the book unfolds, what begins as a study to explore the pharmacology and phenomenology of '___', becomes a science fiction-like journey into an hyper-dimensional reality inhabited by intelligent alien creatures. To find out more about Dr. Strassman’s work visit his Web site: www.rickstrassman.com
Originally posted by The Magicians Apprentice
Do not bother some are not ready to take a peak behind the curtain
Everyone has a life time or a time period when one wakes up from the coma so be understanding with those that don't
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Originally posted by swan001
Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
reply to post by Rubicant13
Our brains have the ability to see, hear, smell and feel things that are not there. Each and every one of us can hallucinate. Our own bodies produce '___'. This is one of the most powerful hallucinogens known. This has been detected in people having a near death experience. We experience it's effects every night when we dream. Healthy functional brains produce this and has nothing to do with your conception of psychology. This is physiology. Measureable and detectable. The effects are profound. When we consider events that happen while sleeping, you have to understand that this stuff is there.
What do imaginative children, passionate lovers, dreamers, psychonauts, telepaths, bliss-bunnies, UFO abductees, shamans and neo-shamans, birthing mothers and babies, near-death experiencers, and schizophrenics have in common? The same thing Tibetan, Taoist and Kabbalistic masters, meditators, mystics and religious prophets share. Their brains are flooded with natural psychedelic pineal secretions that tenaciously cling to their synaptic junctions, electrifying their whole being with multisensory virtual stimuli, experiential beliefs and delusions about the nature of reality.
I suppose this explains everything, right?
I'm not sure yet. for me it explains a lot and fits my current beliefs. Just think about it...or better, explore it.
The fact that cops gang up to shoot unidentified crafts in a report. The fact that photos has been taken from greys. The fact that a security camera filmed someone disapearing in a blue flash and then reappear back, vomiting and curled on the ground.
Sorry, I don't have any knowledge of these being facts. This actually looks like a list of hoaxes, misinformation and bad youtube videos.
Originally posted by Rubicant13
reply to post by Druscilla
Yeah... the way you think appalls me. As if you have the answers to all of these things. Because some well known psychologists have reported that some of their patients abduction experiences are the cause of an overactive imagination or some sort of mentally debilitating illness. Sorry, everything these quacks say is NOT the gospel truth. You are imploring people to look at things "your" way, with the articles you have chosen to side with. Just because you have not experienced these things, does not make them unreal. Sorry, you are not the source to be taking people's ufo/paranormal/abduction experiences and trying to downplay them because some well known pompous ass of a psychologist with an inflated ego states online or in magazine articles that the experiences people have that are paranormal in nature whether it be ghosts, aliens or abduction cases have a completely organic psychological origin. The last I checked, psychologists are not experts in the field of ufology or the paranormal. I agree that some things that have been experienced by certain individuals are in fact, psychological in nature - whether it be mental illness, paranoia - possibly brought on by mental illness or the mind playing tricks on them. But that does not mean that this is the case with ALL of them. Just taking that point of view based on what these blowhards say is insulting. In my life, I have witnessed apparitions as well as the rest of my immediate family in the house I grew up in. We are not "mentally ill." I am completely mentally coherent and in fine mental health. And as far as psychology goes, as I stated, I agree with them in some cases, not all of them. I have a BA in psychology and am not stupid enough to think the way they do. But then again, I am not a self important, closed minded jerk who pretends to know the answers to these paranormal experiences either.
As far as your "idea" to help validate your hypothesis on ufo abductions by wearing one of the watches you mentioned earlier in this thread, it's just silly. Since you think it's such a great idea, maybe you should buy them and present them as "gifts" to those who believe they have genuinely had these experiences. I can hear it now. "Well I am about to go to bed - better put my watch on. I may get abducted tonight."
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Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Rubicant13
I see your negativity and hostile bias.
Please take time to pause and reflect on the matter that I've expressed no hostility and have presented all links, documentation, opinion, commentary, and insights involved in this thread with respect, and polite delivery.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but, without documentation, citation of resources, and a proper illustration of argument to validate your point of view, your opinion is just that; an opinion, and not even an informed and educated opinion supported by outside documentation.
Regarding giving out GPS to abductees, it's been done. None of the claimed abductees went anywhere.
Still, I encourage those that think they're experiencing physical phenomenon to prove the scientific community wrong.
Give us some real data. Bring us some evidence that isn't the same anecdotal subjective experience fairy tale that's been heard thousands of times already, and even replicated in the lab. Bring us something we can't replicate in the lab as an artifact of induced subjective experience, and then, we might just have something to talk about.
Stories about aliens, ghosts and demons are fun, sure, but, until someone can provide some concrete hard data and/or physical evidence, those stories will just be that; all easily described and ascribed to Psychological phenomenon, regardless of how much anyone gets upset over their favorite invisible imaginary friend getting labelled as fictitious.
How many decades of modern UFOlogy have produced how much irrefutable physical evidence? Over 50 years, and still basically nothing?
This isn't about UFOlogy in general though. The arguments I've presented, sourced, cited, and commented are applicable to the abduction phenomenon.
Should anyone care to counter any of these citations, sources, and commentary, please do so with sources, citations, links, and data relevant to the conversation as per civilized debate.
Opinion is one thing, and everyone is entitled to such, but, supporting it with proper citation, documents, links, and articles give your opinion validity and actually contribute to the advancement of intelligent debate.
Anyone can have an opinion.
An opinion supported by other outside reputable sources, however, has more weight.
I see lots of opinion, but, very little to none in the way of supporting documentation to validate any claims outside what I've presented.
Originally posted by Unity_99
When advanced ET, or Higher Up/Family, time travel, they don't move back and forth in "time" but choose a destination or frequency, like we choose a spot in the dvd.
edit to add: The best way to describe this is that infinity is the platform, so all "moments" within it are infinite, as in located within infinite fractals, and there is no movement, also something bourn out in physics, where items disappear, and reappear, anew, created anew, every nano second, so movement is CHANGE, and change bumps the reel of film "ahead". Its in bracket because in no time, its only our perception that makes this linear.
Now, from a Higher Up's perspective, locating a moment in time, is locating the infinite snapshot you wish to return to.
On this note, a Guide/Guardian angel would say, "Be back in a second". They would then journey to their universe/home and spend countless ages, "millions of years" perceptionally, and then find that snapshot and Be Back In A Second.
There is No Time!edit on 2-9-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by swan001
None of these were YouTube video. They are documented in a book called "le Phénomène des OVNIs" which explores governments's declassified reports and documents on the subject.
Needless to say that image of this future boy, this blond 15-year-old boy who was going to be my son some day, was something I never forgot. At the end of this telepathic conversation he said, “I am his real Father.”
Like I said, I wasn’t a little girl who hoped to some day get married and have kids. I wanted to be a Jockey and race horses, I wanted to be creative and free. But the day came when I married a man even though I didn’t want to and soon became pregnant. I had a beautiful blond-haired, sky-blue eyed son of course. He is the only child I have.
Originally posted by starheart
I am glad to see that not everyone in this thread seems to believe that lie about abduction being a psychological problem.
You don't understand. Its knowing what you go through in the day, we're tallking about concrete things. And when you've experienced them, you really do know something exists, no matter who hasn't experience it.
Though expecting mystical raptures and deep psychological insights, in his study he was astonished to find many of his volunteers reporting unexpected encounters with strange and sometimes disturbing alien beings with advanced technology in what amounted to classical UFO "abduction" experiences. Unable to explain away the volunteers' experiences, he concluded that these were genuine encounters with independent sentient beings in otherwise normally invisible dimensions.