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Gaza May Be Unlivable By 2020: UN

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posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
The Palestinian Authority (PA) is separate to Hamas, who you are referring to with your wikipedia link. The PA security forces were trained by the Americans under General Dayton and basically keep the Palestinian people in their place, stymieing freedom of expression.

The PA which is part of the PLO no longer engage in violence against Israel. It is important that we get the facts correct on this issue.


One thing to add, all these attacks come from the Gaza strip which is under Hamas control, also it seems while these attacks target civilians, Israel's responses target weapons and other production facilities and sometimes Israel doesn't even respond at all.




posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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One thing to add, all these attacks come from the Gaza strip which is under Hamas control, also it seems while these attacks target civilians, Israel's responses target weapons and other production facilities and sometimes Israel doesn't even respond at all.


It is rarely the al-Qassam Brigades (the military wing of Hamas) firing these rockets now. Islamic Jihad and other Salifists are the ones firing these rockets. Hamas tries to find a middle ground in stopping the attacks from escalating out of their control to forcing a major attack from Israel, whilst not making enemies out of these radicals.

al-Qassam are only deployed if Israel carries out large attacks.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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Strangely enough under Israeli control their economy was stable and growing yet under the PA it has been the opposite due to government waste and corruption, even with Hamas controlling the Gaza strip it has continued to decline. Lets look at whose really at fault here before blaming it all on Israel and demanding outside interference which from what I've seen has only created more problems for Palestinians.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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Yes i am aware of this yet the fact remains that Hamas is in control of Gaza and they can't control these other groups, so they are held responsible as any government should be in such a situation.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Strangely enough under Israeli control their economy was stable and growing yet under the PA it has been the opposite due to government waste and corruption, even with Hamas controlling the Gaza strip it has continued to decline. Lets look at whose really at fault here before blaming it all on Israel and demanding outside interference which from what I've seen has only created more problems for Palestinians.


Er I think not. Prior to the First Intifada when the IDF controlled the entire West Bank and Gaza;


High birth rates in the Palestinian territories and the limited allocation of land for new building and agriculture contributed to the increasing population density and a rise in unemployment. While income from manual labor in Israel benefited some Palestinians, unemployment was increasing, even for those with university degrees. At the time of the Intifada, only one in eight college-educated Palestinians could find degree-related work.


Ackerman; DuVall (2000), A Force More Powerful: A Century of Nonviolent Conflict p 401.


The realization of the economic price paid by the dependence on the occupiers market was visible in additional ways. It was seen by the Palestinian workers comparing their wages and those of their Jewish colleagues (they were paid half as much). It was also painfully evident to independent professionals who had to pay taxes at a rate bureaucrats are free to impose on an occupied population. It was obvious to entrepreneurs who had to go through a humiliating and degrading process of pleading for concessions and subcontracts. Finally, it as driven home to thousands of villagers who were forced to leave their farms.


Pappe I (2004) "A History of Modern Palestine", p.232

Obviously the PA are corrupt and Hamas are not exactly little lambs, but it is the enduring occupation/siege that prevents Palestinians from reaching their economic potential. This structural violence limits movement, exports, contact with the outside world, access to education and may other things we take for granted.



posted on Sep, 2 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
The PA have launched 0 attacks on Israel in recent years


garbage, you refusal to accept reality really is sick

en.wikipedia.org...


While you were on wikipedia you should of searched occupation of Palestine also...




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