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Gaza May Be Unlivable By 2020: UN

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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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Gaza May Be Unlivable By 2020: UN


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The Gaza Strip will not be "livable" within eight years if steps are not taken immediately to improve basic services, the United Nations warned Monday.

"Action needs to be taken now if Gaza is to be a livable place in 2020, and it is already difficult now," UN humanitarian coordinator Maxwell Gaylard told reporters.

"Action needs to be taken right now on fundamental aspects of life: water sanitation, electricity, education, health and other aspects."
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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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A truly shocking state of affairs.


“Gaza will have half a million more people by 2020 while its economy will grow only slowly. In consequence, the people of Gaza will have an even harder time getting enough drinking water and electricity, or sending their children to school,” said the UN Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator in the occupied Palestinian territory, Maxwell Gaylard.


www.un.org...

Hamas will find itself under increasing amounts of pressure from its own populace to do something. But what can be done? Israel is not going to lift the siege anytime soon, and the Egyptians even under the Muslim Brotherhood, who Hamas are an offshoot of, are reluctant to help, due to the Camp David accords and the resulting US & Israeli pressure.

This cannot continue, Israeli leaders need to get serious about securing a just peace with the Palestinians and Hamas and the PA need to sort out their differences once and for all for their own people's sake.

www.ibtimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 05:46 AM
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Gaza will soon be gone, then the West Bank. Unless the international community recognises the Israeli occupation for what it is (genocide), then the last few Palestinians will live out the rest of their miserable lives in refugee camps in Greater Israel, die and become a footnote in history.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Israeli leaders need to get serious about securing a just peace with the Palestinians and Hamas and the PA need to sort out their differences once and for all for their own people's sake.


How about the Palestinian leaders get serious about peace with Israel, instead of constantly attacking it?



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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Nothing will be done about it. Because Israels lapdog America will vote against any action taken against Israel. It's funny that America cried about Russia when they blocked the UN when it came to Syria but turns a blind eye to the genocide the terrorist racist nation of Israel commits on a daily basis. Hitler would be proud how his proteges are running Israel. They have truly earned the Nazi seal of approval.


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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Israeli leaders need to get serious about securing a just peace with the Palestinians and Hamas and the PA need to sort out their differences once and for all for their own people's sake.


How about the Palestinian leaders get serious about peace with Israel, instead of constantly attacking it?


So Palestine should welcome invaders to their lands with open arms? If Israel would move back to the 48 borders where they belong and stop ethnic cleansing then there might be a chance at peace.
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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Israeli leaders need to get serious about securing a just peace with the Palestinians and Hamas and the PA need to sort out their differences once and for all for their own people's sake.


How about the Palestinian leaders get serious about peace with Israel, instead of constantly attacking it?


I'm coming over to your house tomorrow and occupying 85% of it including the kitchen and toilet; i'm also moving my family members in there because my great grandfather owned the house 600 years ago,

now if you want to use the kitchen, toilet, or leave the house then you better get serious about making peace with me, otherwise i will just starve and oppress you to death mister!



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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It will most likely be annexed by Israel before that anyway.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:04 AM
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The PA have launched 0 attacks on Israel in recent years, and have bent over backwards to accomadate Israeli demands, even at their own people's expense. As revealved in the Palestine Papers.


Palestinian negotiators apparently put forward East Jerusalem, the area of Jerusalem claimed by the Palestinians but occupied by Israel, in negotiations for a Palestinian state, according to documents obtained by Al Jazeera.


www.aljazeera.com...

It appears clear that the US knew Israel, under Netanyahu, was not willing to seriously negotiate.


On October 2, 2009, during a meeting at the State Department with George Mitchell, the US Middle East envoy, a clearly frustrated Erekat, the chief PA negotiator, began referring to the one-state solution as a so-called BATNA, or best alternative to a negotiated agreement, should settlement construction continue in the West Bank. The US, a long-time ally of Israel, urged the Palestinians to continue direct negotiations with Israel despite the continued settlement activity.

Erekat: It is the last time for the two states. My option, the BATNA, if all this goes down, is the one state.

Mitchell: That is your decision. But the fact is that you have a president [Barack Obama] committed to this issue. […] I understand the frustration and the burden of history but please don’t let this opportunity slip by. [later]
Mitchell: I have a 6 inch folder on my desk containing all your statements on the settlement freeze, and despite that you negotiated. Now with the first president who wants to make an effort – he’s being penalised by you.
Erekat: Not me. He has Netanyahu [Israeli prime minister]. He came to Cairo and said full freeze. We will not convert to Judaism, so if Netanyahu's charade of two states is followed, it’s going to be one state.

Erekat’s meeting with Robert Serry, the UN special envoy to the PA, on October 13, 2009, was a clear indicator of the frustration within the Palestinian leadership:

Erekat: I told the Americans, if you take me down this process, you will do the following: you will crown Netanyahu king for years; you will doom even Sharon’s line [former prime minister]; you will kill Livni; we enter negotiations, then Bibi [Netanyahu] announces building in Jerusalem, and the negotiations collapse. I asked them for a change of approach. This time there is absolutely no force on earth that will push us down this path. I told them we have our BATNA. We will not repeat what Arafat did. We will continue to maintain security, one authority, one gun, rule of law, but we will demand equal rights in one state…


www.aljazeera.com...

Israel will not countenance a two-state solution or one-state solution. What solution do they expect? The Palestinians to leave of their own accord and settle in the surrounding countries?

As for Hamas in Gaza, they would be willing to negotiate, if they knew the Israelis to be serious on a proper two statue solution, not just some disconnected semi-state who ALWAYS has to defer to the Israelis.


Palestinian businessman and billionaire Munib al-Masri, who was one of the mediators in the reconciliation talks between Hamas and Fatah, told Ynet that Hamas would be willing to negotiate a peace deal with Israel, based on the 1967 borders.

During conversations I had with Khaled Mashal and Mousa Abu Marzook, they said that they want to establish a strong government that can achieve a comprehensive peace based on 1967 border," said al-Masri, who has been named as a candidate to head the new government.


www.ynetnews.com...



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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Even when a agreement was close to being done Benny killed it.

Bill Clinton: Netanyahu killed the peace process



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:13 AM
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UN is warning because Israel has started bombing Gaza.

+ Egypt has opened it's borders with gaza.

So , this make the puppets in UN warn about Palestine before another massacre in Gaza strip.

Because with warned people , no one will be wondering of another massacre. There will be no shock for the people.

It is international zionist propaganda.

Otherwise , why UN is warning now ? not some months ago ?



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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
The PA have launched 0 attacks on Israel in recent years


garbage, you refusal to accept reality really is sick

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:15 AM
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They have truly earned the Nazi seal of approval.


"'To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory – Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"

en.wikipedia.org...

The National Socialists would not approve.

The UN should shut the hell up too. Those jerks are the ones that created the whole problem. After the 'British Mandate' of Palestine, the west obviously wanted to keep a foothole in the area. The UN decided to partition Palestine into two states. The UN is evil.


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posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:30 AM
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garbage, you refusal to accept reality really is sick en.wikipedia.org...


The Palestinian Authority (PA) is separate to Hamas, who you are referring to with your wikipedia link. The PA security forces were trained by the Americans under General Dayton and basically keep the Palestinian people in their place, stymieing freedom of expression.

The PA which is part of the PLO no longer engage in violence against Israel. It is important that we get the facts correct on this issue.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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I think that this report - or at least the effort from the U.N. - should be taken as a new opportunity to solve thing's.

But in order for that to happen, both sides will have to compromise a lot. Israel seriously needs to tone down the pressure on anyone who they consider a target or a threat, and the Palestinian side must take steps into preventing acts of terrorism. If they are not the ones doing it, or are in no relation to them, it's even better, because their main concern should be to rise to the occasion and actually try and solve the problem.

Having discussions about who started what isn't going to take us - or them - anywhere, we have seen that multiple times with peace treaties, amnesties and cease-fire agreements... And in those situations, both (Israel and Palestinians) are to blame, since both participate in the continuous violence.

People might argue this is only due to self-defense, and that is partially true. But self-defense doesn't justify a lot of things being done by several groups of Israelis, nor does it allow them to ignore any peaceful resolutions.

There was a chance for hope once, it can happen again.

This is a urgent wake-up call for both of them.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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yet another understatement from the geniuses at the u.n ... gaza is unlivable now due to the illegal israeli occupation and genocide ...



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Well said Garrus. When facts are mistaken though, they have to be corrected.

BOTH sides have to stop the terrorism, i.e. Israelis with the settler movement, and their own state terror.

The report includes a call to end the siege.


Today, Gaza is an essentially urban economy, isolated and kept alive through external funding, the illegal tunnel economy, and the ingenuity and persistence of its people. “An urban area cannot survive without being connected,” said Mr. Gaylard, who added that a return to economic progress and prosperity could only materialise through trade, communication and contact with the world beyond Gaza.

Gaza remains subject to severe restrictions on imports, exports and the movement of people, by land, air and sea, as a result of the blockade Israel imposed on the area for what it called security reasons after the Hamas group, which does not recognize Israel’s right to exist, ousted the Fatah movement in the Strip in 2007. “The viability of a future Palestinian state depends on a proper connection between the West Bank and Gaza, providing access to the Mediterranean for the entire occupied Palestinian territory,” the report states.


www.un.org...

Egypt needs to broker some kind of agreement between the Israelis and Hamas, a lifting of the siege in return for Hamas commitments to stop rocket and any other attacks from the strip from both their own armed wings and other militant groups in the strip such as Islamic Jihad.

If an attack does occur (from either side) following this agreement, which is likely, both sides would have to show restraint and communicate with each other, the lines must be open at all times.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Hamas and the PA need to sort out their differences once and for all for their own people's sake.
I agree they need to, but is this going to happen? It seems to me that Hamas is radical and PA won't accept such radical behavior. And if Hamas stops being radical, will it still be Hamas?

So as unfortunate as the situation is, it may go from bad to worse, and I'm not sure what anyone can do to stop it, unless Hamas decides to change who they are and become less radical, which seems somewhat unlikely.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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I agree they need to, but is this going to happen? It seems to me that Hamas is radical and PA won't accept such radical behavior. And if Hamas stops being radical, will it still be Hamas? So as unfortunate as the situation is, it may go from bad to worse, and I'm not sure what anyone can do to stop it, unless Hamas decides to change who they are and become less radical, which seems somewhat unlikely.


Hamas is not one simple group, there are pragmatic and more extreme kind of members in the party both of which are in a power struggle. Israel could empower the pragmatists by showing some serious intention toward peace. The PA wont accept a rival to power. They need to realize it isn't about their situation, but the Palestinian people's (the same could be said for most governments I suppose)

Hamas and Israel do communicate to each other, through the "back channels". This should be brought in to the open.



posted on Aug, 29 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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Egypt needs to broker some kind of agreement between the Israelis and Hamas, a lifting of the siege in return for Hamas commitments to stop rocket and any other attacks from the strip from both their own armed wings and other militant groups in the strip such as Islamic Jihad.


First of all, I think that all religious connotation in politics are BS, and I don't care which religion they come from.

If people are going to take up arms, do it for the right reasons, and be responsible about it. Calling it "jihad" or "holy war" is voiding individuals of personal responsibility, allowing them to commit atrocities without any consequences.

Regarding the Egypt involvement, if the current Egypt President is as half "modern" as he claims he is, I hope that Egypt will take the opportunity of recent understandings with Israel to keep that cooperation going, and maybe Egypt can become a messenger of peace between all parties.

But, in order for that to happen, there must be mutual respect, and I'm not so sure that radical islamists will allow that...



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