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reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 10:55 PM by skepticconwatcher
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Kind of like how indigenous peoples lived before the colonists arrived ?

I dream of that world again too.



reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 10:58 PM by Awakened2012
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we give them what they deserve/want until it runs out & they have to make the really tough choices but thats already happening in so many different ways isn't it?


reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:00 PM by Awakened2012
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It will slowly but surely be molded into that or at least into the lower prices


reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:01 PM by ExNihilo
Originally posted by Awakened2012
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we give them what they deserve/want until it runs out & they have to make the really tough choices but thats already happening in so many different ways isn't it?



With capitalism and socialism, the parasites get welfare and nothing more. With communism they get shot in the face.


reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:03 PM by BulletShogun
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did it ever occur to you that money gets things done? money has been a driving force for economies since coins where invented so long ago. even before that when we weighed out silver and gold pieces.

money allows for progress. example if there was no gain in it scientifically as well as financially the computer you posted this on would not exist.

simply put if we still did everything by barter we would be wearing animal skins and looking at steel swords as the ultimate in technological power.

all the economical problems we face are simply the issues of any system in its infancy. and that system i speak of is the global system. we didn't trade worldwide like we do now 100 years ago. sure items would go nation to nation but we didn't outsource jobs completely.

plus with money the incentive to do a good job at your work is higher. from that comes progress.

let me give you the most obvious example. weapons of war. i'm talking small arms like the rifles on the battlefield. they advance the fastest due to governments having a who's got the best weapon contest among gun makers. many companies will build guns of high quality and the one that fits the need the best gets the contract.

but the guns where improved and great pieces of art and human know how with the intent on delivering a great piece to a buyer.

its the same with computers and cell phones today. even on a personal level


reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:04 PM by Yeats
Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
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Kind of like how indigenous peoples lived before the colonists arrived ?

I dream of that world again too.


The method by which native people irregardless of location is/was admirable, but times do change and, we must change with them. A time of barter and trade on that simple of a level is long gone. It will never be that way again unless we loose the internet and the ability to print periodicals.

Barter still continues to this day but it has been corrupted by major corporations making 200% proffit (or more) on a simple product. This is the type of dishonest trade we need to stop.


reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:05 PM by Awakened2012
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obviously true thats why you get Direct Deposit & don't carry all this loose change in your pockets causing all different delays & what not.


reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:10 PM by Yeats
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That is so true!


I do my best to shop local and buy from the farmers markets in my area, even if their prices are higher than the big box stores. If I shop local at least I know that my money is feeding the local economy (Colorado, USA).



reply posted on 28-8-2012 @ 11:25 PM by ezekielken
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Thanks for pointing that out heff. sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees.
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