reply to post by Symbiot
Obviously I think that there is some insight with the 7 deadly sins and those characteristics do play a major role in the state of chaos the world
sees today. I find it odd that many churches are up in arms over things such as gay rights and abortion, meanwhile the 7 deadly sins are raping and
pillaging the world's population. To me I'm thinking, you know there's this massive elephant in the room over there and no one's paying any
attention to him at all.
Let me start with the 7 deadly sins, I don't believe it is biblical. What you know as the 7 deadly sins is really a Catholic belief. The book of
Proverbs mentions 7 sins that the lord detests and they are:
A proud look.
A lying tongue.
Hands that shed innocent blood.
A heart that devises wicked plots.
Feet that are swift to run into mischief.
A deceitful witness that uttereth lies.
Him that soweth discord among brethren.
There is only one unforgivable sin and that is believed to be a rejection of the holy spirit from which comes love for God and others, a rejection of
love for anyone other than ones self. Having said that, clearly the things you are referencing are to be avoided; but, we can be saved from them. As
for homosexuality and abortion, both of those things are also not unforgivable. The short of the matter is that we all fall short; but, we have lots
of outs if we love others for then we have the mind of Christ. We were told he will forgive us as we forgive others. I am not asking anyone to believe
in Christ, I just wanted to clarify how Christians are supposed to view such things.
As for the massive elephant in the room, there is one and it is destroying the church. The real problem is that the church is more worried about
correcting behavior than teaching about the hope that is supposed to be within us. The church has become better known for what it is against than what
it is supposed to be for. The other major problem that churches are facing is that they are doing a poor job of self policing and ridding themselves
of people who do wrong. They are afraid of the bad publicity.
I was speaking to my head pastor today about dating. As an elder and a preacher I have a duty to the church and felt it would be wrong for me to date
any members (not that I had any plans to, one of the other elders is dating a member). I also don't believe in dating co-workers. He told me I was
wrong and that if the it would be best, if it came up, for me to date a member who had been there for awhile and had the same beliefs. He said that if
such a thing happened, it would be my responsibility to make sure he and the other elders knew of such a thing. He also makes sure that me and the
other elders know of his relationship status. I told him that if he ever went out sleeping around I would quit and I figured that if I did so, he
would fire me. He agreed. The same thinking does not apply to member or non-members, it is just that elders and Pastors have special responsibilities.
Self policing and accountability keep church leaders on the right path and I see too little of it.
We are seeing the death of the church and a great falling away because the leadership has failed to do their real job. The Mormon church spent around
$80 million to fight gay marriage in California, they could have used that money to start churches and feed the hungry. I do not know how much
christians spent; but, it could have also been put to better use. I believe abortion is wrong; but, I also believe that legislating people's bodies
is slavery and I have no right nor wish to be a slave master or owner.
As I have said to others, the amazing thing is that the bible is the only holy book that predicted that it would be spread throughout the whole world
in all languages and that once that was accomplished, the church would be persecuted and there would be a great falling away. It predicted that 2,000
years ago. Christians were told to be good slaves by Christ and many who claim to profess seek to be masters, the church has lost it's true purpose.