DHS Source: “It’s going hot”

I believe it this time. Those still going through the first phase of denial will have to catch up quickly later.

Remote Viewer Ed Dames might know something about this going hot event. It may be played as a training exercise using live ammunition, live WMD, or live and active cultures in some biohazard, I don't know.

If the source leaked it, it's already been beyond the eyes and ears of the best security that is available in the country. That's not too encouraging right now from my perspective.

On the downside, it, whatever it is, got through the membranes of security so far that the source can only sit back and say it's going in hot. I would prefer the source be saying, it's been contained, it's not an issue, it got stopped, the bad guys got caught before they got their hands on destructive things.

But the drama we have these days. The long term tension. The weeks and weeks of investigations to stage a production for a political theatre, which may or may not escalate into total world conflict. You know this is about a political flip from global connections. Not just our nation and the elections. It takes several big events to create a storm like this, and I'm not talking about Isaac.

And whatever it is, it's being permitted within the borders of our country. Those in the training exercise, I wish you the best in being heroes and intercepting this potentially historic occasion. Those who were in control beforehand, with all those extra privileges, consider that if you don't stop this, you may be called a domestic terrorist one day by the general public, following through with out-of-line orders. I would consider these enemies approaching behaving as in war already; why is it entertained? Why do you flirt with disaster as leaders, so when people observe, they follow suit? That their morale is compromised, they are grieved, driven to madness at the hypocrisy observed, and they catch the cognitive dissonance. This action is bad so why is it being done? It is not the product of a sound mind, so why is it being regarded as business as usual?

I have a suspicion that the news I read the other day about the UniCredit probe may be a reason why this mysterious event is coming in hot. Was it intended to come in cold before that news came out? These are the days when I am tempted to play the superhero, but the fact of the matter is this is a secret government project, to entice an enemy into doing something as it has been in other events in the past, and anybody showing up with knowledge about it before the deed occurs, could be at risk of getting accused of being "with an enemy" whatever the enemy is concocted to be this time.

Somehow greater good doesn't override common sense in incidences like this. I hope that building is empty when it gets attacked. I believe it is going to be what Ed Dames says it would be, the Devon Energy tower in Oklahoma City, except sometimes, treachery and betrayal happens, and it could be somewhere else. Those puppet terrorists could be misleading. Guard the politicians; guard the targets. I will stand back and observe the coliseum called the USA right now. My hands are clean; I'm not operating equipment, participating in plans, in charge of any investigation, or profiting from this event, and oppose preventable destruction when it's seen. Y'all are crazy to let this occur. If I worked at Devon Energy I'd be submitting my resignation right now, taking a very long vacation from that place, until November.

Originally posted by DCPatriot
FYI.....today it was confirmed that the Secret Service left a weapon in the restroom of Romney's charter plane.

This is NOT off-topic.

True.
abcnews.go.com...

An Obama directive to assassinate Romney, by the SS leaving a weapon in the reporter's bathroom for a planted reporter to do the dirty deed? Is that what you are suggesting?

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by DCPatriot
FYI.....today it was confirmed that the Secret Service left a weapon in the restroom of Romney's charter plane.

This is NOT off-topic.

True.
abcnews.go.com...

An Obama directive to assassinate Romney, by the SS leaving a weapon in the reporter's bathroom for a planted reporter to do the dirty deed?

Is that what you are suggesting?

Name another "event" that would give cause for half the United States population to attempt to enact some sort of revenge....which would give rise to canceling/postponing the election...and possibly see a directive to disarm the population?

We're a little more than 2 months out from turning this Marxist into a lame duck.

The days between the election and January 20, 2013 will be very dangerous for Republicans and Conservartives.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


They are setting the stage for disarmament of the American people. They want everyone to misplace their guns.

Going Hot..... In my day in the military it meant going in with necessary armaments blazing if contact was made. That's what 'GoHot' meant.
As for rounding up Americans, that might get a couple days press before the 'Real' news story hit, if any news was up and running.

There are 313,000,000 Americans. Roughly half are armed. There are roughly 800,000 Law enforcement personnel in the US.

There are approximately 1,477,896 active Military personnel.

Of those Military personnel, how many do you think would Kill American Citizens knowingly? My Guess, maybe early on half or one third. And as the event progressed, less and less.
How many Military Commanders would then plan a Coup? I think it would eventually sway that way as Americans were slaughtered.
313,000,000 to aproximately 1.5 million. with likely 150,000,000 being armed Citizens in the US.
Works out roughly 150 to 1, American citizens in the majority, and any Law enforcement that went against a corrupt regime along with whatever Military Personnel sided with the American citizenry.

The numbers would be made known quick enough. News would still be received through Ham or Shortwave radio or word of mouth.
One hundred and fifty to one are not good odds. especially when the Citizenry are in their local environment and know the terrain from birth.

It would be a short lived government try at a takeover. A few bridges destroyed and it would make it even more difficult for the Military to move, highways jammed with abandoned autos would also block their movement making them targets for Gorilla tactics. It would not be pretty, but the Citizenry would ultimately prevail. Remember Poland...!

I have been following the Hagmann and Hagmann show for several weeks now and well as Steve Quayle and Rick Wiles.
You may want to listen to them yourselves for a week then makeup your own minds.

Trunews

Hagmann

Quayle

IMHO - this is just yet another neo-conservative tactic of stirring up the # soup and injecting fear into the populace. Create a crisis, offer "solutions" to save us from it all and keep us in compliance.

Whether it's true or not, matters not. Because it is real either way. The neo cons actually follow thru.

So, this vast conspiracy that holds the reins of power...don't they supposedly hand-pick every president? Isn't every leader a part of this?

So, why do they need to ensure Obama gets another term? Couldn't Romney just as easily carry out this "mission"?

If they're that powerful, why can they never just enact this sweeping plan and be done with it? People have been talking about it for a hundred years, but this cabal can't quite get it together, is that it?

It seems the shadow government is more Wiley Coyote than all-powerful force.

Things have been tense for a long time now. People are broke, fuel prices are high, food prices about to soar. Everything is tense and unsettled and I have a suspicion that there's more violence happening than people realize or are being told. But the massive rioting and uprising hasn't happened yet. I'm shocked to my core, honestly. With the edginess that everyone seems to be feeling, and the extreme heat this summer, I thought it might finally spill over. (Note that when I say 'finally' I simply mean because it's been simmering for so long, not Yay! Finally!)

So many divisive things have happened and have been hyped, I think, to get people to react. I think we've been baited time and again and have yet to take the bait. Immigration, Trayvon Martin, mass shootings. Occupy. Even though we haven't taken the bait, hard feelings and old lines being redrawn on all sides take their toll. Tribes are chosen, or at the very least chosen for us. We're balkanizing and scapegoating each other. We are ripe. Eventually the dam has to break and I think when it does, it won't just be here. There are too many hot spots around the world and the financial system is too precarious for it to be contained to just the States. People around the world sitting back and laughing at our come uppance would be wise to watch their own six. A power vaccuum isn't good for anyone.

Order out of chaos. If we don't blow, they will blow it for us. And really, even if they don't, they win. Increments or all at once, liberty is being lost and in the end that's their plan.

reply to post by Sandalphon


When people knock it off with the silly fear porn, then a rational discussion on this issue will be possible.

My point is, too many of these "warnings" are posted and promoted and do any of them ever come true?

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by DCPatriot
FYI.....today it was confirmed that the Secret Service left a weapon in the restroom of Romney's charter plane.

This is NOT off-topic.

True.
abcnews.go.com...

An Obama directive to assassinate Romney, by the SS leaving a weapon in the reporter's bathroom for a planted reporter to do the dirty deed?

Is that what you are suggesting?

I've thought for awhile all the stories about how inept the Secret Service has become is more than just casual. Either it's a set up to an assassination, or at least an attempt, or reason for a beefed up, full on military entourage for the president. It really feels like we are being acclimated to increased military and militarization of, well....everything.

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by Sandalphon

 

When people knock it off with the silly fear porn, then a rational discussion on this issue will be possible.

My point is, too many of these "warnings" are posted and promoted and do any of them ever come true?

I agree that there's a lot of warning and talk that leads to nowhere *immediately*, but are you saying you think things are hunky dorey? There is a lot of ominous stuff going on, don't you agree?

If your theory is that too much hype causes too little attention being paid where and when it counts, I can agree. But if you're suggesting that there hasn't been a dramatically increased militarization here and abroad even in the past year.......yikes! The question always remains, why?

Originally posted by TheAnarchist

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Potential for Violence or Criminal Activity by
Anarchist Extremists During the 2012 National Political
Conventions

The DHS and FBI have an entire team dedicated to tracking "anarchist extremists" who, so far, have been responsible for a variety of horrible terrorist attacks such as: blocking roads, obstructing bridges, spray painting walls, smashing windows, protesting without a permit, assaulting heavily-armed law enforcement officers with projectiles such as small rocks, breaking down security barricades and fences, targeting banks and multi-national corporations using the internet to acquire information and to organize their horrific terrorist attacks, generally disturbing the "peace", and occasionally attempting arson with very little success.

Ohhhhh, the humanity!!!!!!! Thank god the FBI and DHS are protecting us from these dangerous extremist hooligans!



This is getting beyond ridiculous

"Anarchist extremists"? I think a more appropriate title would be "anarchist nuisances"

Don't quit your day job DHS. I'm no intelligence analyst but my gut instinct says that you may have bigger fish to fry out there in the world. Leave the disgruntled teenagers to the local police and focus your energy on more important threats before another 9/11 happens right under your noses

edit on 29/8/2012 by TheAnarchist because: ~

It's a head game, friend. I'm sure you well know most people don't know a real anarchist, neither syndicalist or capitalist. The word anarchy makes people think of violence and chaos as a gut reaction. Since most people want law and order and peace, you say anarchist and BAM! the populace is already against them. The cops will always be seen as in the right when going after the anarchist because they are keeping order. It keeps folks from questioning.

reply to post by TrueAmerican

Obviously, I asked for clarification and more details.

He asked for clarification because he doesn't know what his source is talking about, but then he says:

Look at what they did to you and the content of last information I gave to you.

A true hero... Fighting to tell us about something that someone told him, not to mention that something happened when something was disclosed. I'm just glad that something hasn't happened because of something someone told him.



I'm not saying this whole thing is BS because I don't think governments aren't capable of messing things up or having some really nasty and dubious plans.

I'm saying this is BS because we are presented with the suggestion of accepting what this idiot has to say, and we are supposed to believe that a DHS agent, with a high rank - enough to give him access to this "information" - , is going to ask for favours if he needs to deliver a message to the public.

I'm pretty sure the DHS does know what cellphones and "news agencies" are for.

Just look at the pearls in this:

“Look, I’ll tell you everything I know, what I’ve heard and seen, (...)

Don't forget about what he starts by saying. "what I've heard and seen". It will matter later on.

but you’ve got to get this public.

Even then, I’m not sure we know enough about the specific operational details, have enough time, or have the ability to overcome the characterizations of lunacy they’re going to throw at you

He states that when something happens he doesn't know much about it, but can you just imagine how much does he know now?...

Yeah... 0.

then I’ve heard you talk about the ‘normalcy bias’ of most Americans, and that’s part of what we’re fighting.

My anonymous source is telling me something different...

The United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is a cabinet department of the United States federal government, created in response to the September 11 attacks, and with the primary responsibilities of protecting the United States of America and U.S. Territories from and responding to terrorist attacks, man-made accidents, and natural disasters.

Above top secret source (yeah, it's wikipedia)

I think this guy isn't very good at his job...

Look at what they did to you and the content of last information I gave to you.

Nothing is bad?

It was like that pass a secret game in first grade, you know, where one student whispers something in the ear of the kid next to him and it’s passed around the room until it gets to the last student. By that time, it’s nothing like the original ‘secret.’ It’s the lesson kids learn about spreading gossip.

Remember that first thing he said that I wanted you to remember?

He says that he is only telling what he has heard and witnessed, and he ends his utterly vague information leak by stating that passing information from mouth to mouth is the worst because it changes the original message.

If what this guy says was true, DHS would behave like teenager girls talking about boyfriends.

This part has conquered my heart (sarcasm):

Yes, that’s it. Didn’t you find the timing of that odd? I mean, the information I gave you was back in late April. When did Keisling send that e-mail and then make his very public retraction? Two or three weeks ago? Give me a break. They wanted to discredit you and anyone who makes public their intentions as bad as they want to know where the leaks are coming from,” he stated. “Believe me when I tell you they are desperate on a number of levels.”

How handy to have an anonymous source with a high rank within the DHS tell you to post information on the internet saying that you aren't a stupid idiot who was called out on his BS...

I went on to research a little bit on this guy (Doug Hagmann). The very few thing's I've found don't speak highly to his credibility...A couple of months ago he was saying a Civil War was going to break out...

If anything since 9/11/01 the US government has become more paranoid of it's own people...and vice versa. It's been over a decade, yet US citizens are still on lock down and treated like criminals when trying to enter a government building or fly a plane. It seems that this is a vicious circle that keeps feeding on itself. The more people accept conspiracy the more the government spy's on it's citizens. People see the spying and big brother tactics and become less and less likely to think the government is working for them, thus increasing the government spying and control...this is going to keep growing and getting worse.

Both sides need to understand something: The government needs to understand that the things they have done against it's own citizens has created this mistrust. Such as poisoning city wells with '___' etc, or infecting people with diseases, sending them of to foreign countries to die without the rest of the world behind them, for support. That doesn't build trust; and as far as I know they haven't offered any apologies.

The government loving populace of the late 40's-the 50's brought together after the 2nd WW. Barely exists anymore from such distrustful actions; sure some could argue they were for the greater good of humanity, who cares if a bunch of convicts are experimented on so the rest of citizens benefit from a cure or vaccine.

The distrust and disillusionment some of the populace has is extreme, and some of their actions have killed many regular citizens just trying to carve a living; which is an act of terrorism on the unsuspecting. So the government watches us all closely, to try and head off such things.

I think it would be better for them to try diplomacy and actually use the transparency to build the trust again, to admit past mistakes, apologize for them pay out damages to the families(a much cheaper solution than setting up a big brother prison state) and resolve that they will not repeat the same mistakes. This would open the eyes of those blind to the things that have occurred, slow down the growing distrust and hatred that is growing for the government, and help start building trust again. It will take both sides though...

Of course I doubt that will ever happen, I expect the vicious circle between the government and citizens to keep growing. So pardon my futility of trying to bring forth a somewhat rational solution.

Originally posted by lordpiney
Im sure something's up. they wouldn't have purchased all those rounds of ammo, just because they needed to purge their budget for this year...would they?

zombies.

reply to post by VaterOrlaag


Yeah, check back on this thread in December.

Nothing will have happened, and the people guaranteeing that something is going to happen will be nowhere to be found.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
If I were to wager I would say TPTB the good old boys at Bohemian Grove cooked up a real slam bang hit on American soil. You know something that will make 911 look like a PTA meeting.

I would suggest if you are in a highly populated area, a major city to GTFO NOW.

My two guesses are: a nuclear bomb in a major city or a mass gunning down of the masses.

Multiple nuclear bombs (small scale dirty nukes) detonated the same morning in multiple sea port cities (including NYC and Washington DC). Only a small percent of our sea shipping cargo is inspected by port authority. It will occur as boats carrying the dirty nukes enter port and detonate over water.

I keep saying, read Russ Dizdar's "The Black Awakening"..............one trigger to wake them all.

Bingo!

And I pray to God the Father I'm wrong.

God the Father has revealed these things to His servents the prophets, it is His wil for this age to come to an end so His kingdom can reign over all the Earth for 1000 years in the next age.

I pray to God the Father that His will, not mine, be done on Earth.

God Bless,

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by TrueAmerican

 

Since your OP doesn`t really give us a direction, just a heads up something is amiss.

I`ll speculate with the recent high profile shooting, it will be some form of Gun Control, or Limitations.

My my, how correct you turned out to be!

Just look at all the gun control threads after Obama's EO's!

And maybe, just perhaps, we ought to pay a little more attention to the writers at canadafreepress for giving us the heads up on this. Cause what happened a few months after this story?

Sandy Hook. Looks like it DID go hot.