Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by nightstalker46
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Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother
and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.
Well, she sure got that part right didn't she.
I didn't think it was the validity that was questionable here? If that is what you see wrong with that statement perhaps it should be fact checked.
So I guess a lot of republicans really link that interesting. I had thought they outgrew there fondness of such things. Thanks for enlighten me.
So you don't think a 70+% illegitimacy rate in the black community is a problem??
n mid-1960s America, the nation's out-of-wedlock birth rate (which stood at 7.7 percent at the time) began a rapid and relentless climb across all
demographic lines, a climb that would continue unabated until 1994, when the Welfare Reform Act put the brakes on that trend. Today the overall
American illegitimacy rate is about 33 percent (26 percent for whites). For blacks, it hovers at near 70 percent—approximately three times the level
of black illegitimacy that existed when the War on Poverty began in 1964.
illegitimacy is an important issue because it has a great influence on all statistical indicators of a population group’s progress or decline. In
1987, for the first time in the history of any American racial or ethnic group, the birth rate for unmarried black women surpassed that for married
black women, and that trend continued uninterrupted until the passage of welfare reform. The black out-of-wedlock birth rates in some inner cities now
exceed 80 percent, and most of those mothers are teens. Because unmarried teenage mothers—whatever their race—typically have no steady employment,
nearly 80 percent of them apply for welfare benefits within five years after giving birth to their first child. No group can withstand such a
wholesale collapse of its family structure without experiencing devastating social consequences.
Father-absent families—black and white alike—generally occupy the bottom rung of our society’s economic ladder. Unwed mothers, regardless of
their race, are four times more likely to live in poverty than the average American. Female-headed black families earn only 36 percent as much as
two-parent black families, and female-headed white families earn just 46 percent as much as two-parent white families. Not only do unmarried mothers
tend to earn relatively little, but their households are obviously limited to a single breadwinner—thus further widening the income gap between
one-parent and two-parent families. Fully 85 percent of all black children in poverty live in single-parent, mother-child homes.
As to the full statement you refer to; I assume the remark about the founding fathers i.
The question of whether the American founders were in favor of or against slavery is not a new one. On the one hand, Americans failed to do away with
slavery, as several insuperable obstacles seemed to make immediate abolition impossible – not the least of which was the threat from certain
Southern states to refrain from joining the Union if slavery was not sufficiently protected in the proposed Constitution. On the other hand, most of
the prominent American founders understood that slavery was inconsistent with the principle that “all men are created equal.” As John Jay wrote in
1786, “To contend for our own liberty, and to deny that blessing to others, involves an inconsistency not to be excused."
The result was that plans for gradual rather than immediate abolition were adopted, with many states passing laws for the gradual emancipation or
individual manumission of slaves. The founders hoped that slavery would ultimately die a natural death, or that some solution would present itself to
future generations of Americans. Yet this hope was mixed with fear that if slavery was not extirpated peacefully, it might culminate in either a
bloody slave rebellion or the violent dissolution of the Union.
This lesson will focus on the views of the founders as expressed in primary documents from their own time and in their own words. Students will see
that many of the major founders opposed slavery as contrary to the principles of the American Revolution. Students will also gain a better
understanding of the views of many founders, even those who owned slaves – including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson – who looked forward
to a time when slavery would no longer mar the American Republic.
Bachmann may have confused John Q. Adams for John Adams, a founding father who was against slavery. A misquote that any of us could make at an
impromptu discussion. I can't fault her for that. Maybe you can. The jist of her comment is entirely correct. It appears this argument is over. You
Adams never bought a slave and declined on principle to employ slave labor. Abigail Adams opposed slavery and employed free blacks in preference
to her father's two domestic slaves. John Adams spoke out in 1777 against a bill to emancipate slaves in Massachusetts, saying that the issue was
presently too divisive, and so the legislation should "sleep for a time." He also was against use of black soldiers in the Revolution, due to
opposition from southerners. Adams generally tried to keep the issue out of national politics, because of the anticipated southern
response. Though it is difficult to pinpoint the exact date on which slavery was abolished in Massachusetts, a common view is that it was
abolished no later than 1780, when it was forbidden by implication in the Declaration of Rights that John Adams wrote into the Massachusetts
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