Originally posted by FireMoon
Let's clear one thing up, It wasn't "Mr Burn's Jet Fuel man" it was a witness, Mr Jonathan Dagenhart who , on tape said one thing and then later ,tried to retract what they had said. Plus, the police then come out and say, it was a "failed suicide" admitting fully, that there was someone on the moors covered in fuel of some sort. Personally, I find the "failed suicide bid" probably more ridiculous than the possibility of a single aircrew ejecting and the other aircrew member managing to regain control of the craft.
That doesn't seem to fit with much of the rest of the accounts from that night. If a crew member ejected and the pilot regained control of his jet, then that information would have been known to the RAF. Why would there have been any story of a plane crash in the first place? The explanation doesn't seem to make much sense (although I do agree that there does seem minimal evidence to suggest the plane actually did crash, aside from the sound of explosions (maybe the sonic booms), orange glow in sky (maybe the UFO), description that helicopter pulled bodies from reservoir the next day (only one witness), conflicting info from firemen (small plane crashed/jet crashed) - and later info that a small plane was in distress but didn't crash, plus the authorities claiming the sounds were caused by a meteor exploding.
Wow, this really is the "mother of all UFO sightings"!
Originally posted by FireMoon
Plus please people, if you intend to contribute to a thread, please read it fully and then read the links provided fully as well. David Clarke himself documents how, the RAF did indeed "completely lose" a plane in this very area several years before. It buried itself 50 feet into the bog on impact and was deemed totally unsalvageable and within hours, all that there was to show it had crashed was a raised bank of earth round an 8 foot deep pool of water.
Personally, I don't think they lost a Tornado at all, I suspect a Tornado might have problems and dropped its' outboard pod(s) . If it was a weapons pod, they most likely ditched in it a lake and there would have been an attempt to salvage it or, at the very least , make sure no-one else could salvage it either.
What we can say is this, if there were 2 sonic booms caused by RAF aircraft then there's not a hope in hells' chance it was a "routine flight", as it breaks just about every rule in the book, particularly given the time the "booms" occurred. it is almost 100% certain that if RAF aircraft were allowed to go supersonic, over land, at that time of the night, they were on "active service".
If you have spent any time reading through military air SAR incidents and Air Force accident reports, I think it is possible to state that the Air Force NEVER has an accident that isn't a totally "routine training mission". Aircraft never crash or disappear in "emergency Air Defense Missions" especially if they might involve "alleged UFOs".
Anyways, I do agree its possible that the incident may not have involved the actual crash or disappearance of any aircraft, but I have to wonder why the firemen thought that a plane had crashed.