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Paul never murdered anyone.
Paul as well murdered and persecuted believers and then ended up writing most of the new testament.
We're really just trying to get you to join us. We're not here to shoot you down.
Originally posted by CmdrZero
I find these types of threads despicable. They're nearly always started by the same bored a-holes who feed their egos asking questions for which there are no answers. I have never figured out how or why this makes them feel they possess superior intellect but some how it does.
Does this mean that I'm both an a-hole and a fool?
Originally posted by CmdrZero
So, rather than fall for this, like whoever this is hopes you and I will I'll let my Bible answer:
Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Proverbs 14:6 A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.
Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
I'll leave it here.
Are you saying you base your belief on fear rather than certainty? Do you believe God approves of Pascal's wager?
Originally posted by CmdrZero
If I'm wrong and you're right on the issue of God. Then when I die I'll close my eyes and that will be it. Because I've lived according to the Book the world didn't suffer because I was here. I did as much good as I could wherever I could.
But, if I'm right and you're wrong then a split second after your last breath you're going to face a judge. A righteous judge. And you're not going to like what He has to say to you. Friend, hell is forever.
Now, let me ask you a question in the same vein as yours. How long is eternity?
Originally posted by simplyLOVE
It is said that when we achieve Self-Realization we merge with the divine, fully conscious, another thread asked, what is gods goal? well gods goal is for every living soul that exists to merge in him (Our God is a Consuming fire. Paul. in Hebrews i think) when this happens god himself will achieve Self-Realisation, that is gods goal, to know himself through the medium of the universe, and when this goal is reached, it will be Jesus Christ who is the newly perfected beyond mans conception of perfection, God, whenever someone reaches enlightenment the enlightened atma is added to gods stockpile of conscious consciousness and the son of man will have gods throne and all the power in heaven and we will all have a share equal to him but not quite, because there will be unity, no him or us, but unity.
Originally posted by zarp3333
reply to post by MamaJ
I thank you for your kindness. I don't begrudge those persons who question religion or feel no need for faith. What I have a hard time understanding is criticism of others views and beliefs for the sake of criticism.
I'm wide open to new understandings and ideas. I would love to hear the critics present alternatives. Lacking new ideas or the willingness to present relative meritts, I see no reason not to think that the critics are trying to exalt themselves at the expense of others.
What is the point in that? "People who believe in God are stupid." I ask relative to what? Relative to who?
Believe what you will. Until you come up with something better, your criticisms are a waste of time on me. I love God. I accept myself unconditionally. I deserve to be loved because I am worth it. So are you MagnumOpus and so is Harry Potter in that he was created. I don't think he is a religion as you seem to.
I find these types of threads despicable. They're nearly always started by the same bored a-holes who feed their egos asking questions for which there are no answers. I have never figured out how or why this makes them feel they possess superior intellect but some how it does.
So, rather than fall for this, like whoever this is hopes you and I will I'll let my Bible answer:
If I'm wrong and you're right on the issue of God. Then when I die I'll close my eyes and that will be it. Because I've lived according to the Book the world didn't suffer because I was here. I did as much good as I could wherever I could.
But, if I'm right and you're wrong then a split second after your last breath you're going to face a judge. A righteous judge. And you're not going to like what He has to say to you. Friend, hell is forever.
Now, let me ask you a question in the same vein as yours. How long is eternity?
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Well that is really close. god exists only on the basis of: "I think, therefore: I am." (Descartes) god exists via "The Word" and didn't exist before the word, which is a human incarnation for god.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Well that is really close. god exists only on the basis of: "I think, therefore: I am." (Descartes) god exists via "The Word" and didn't exist before the word, which is a human incarnation for god.
In my opinion...
" I am " is an expression.....
of all that is, can be and will be. It's an awareness of I within the Spirit of God. I am can be anything or anyone. It IS for all an expression of the I.
Why do you say the Word ( Jesus, Joshua, Enoch, Adam, Plato, and so on) IS God? Why do you think God only exists because of the Word? This is simply not true. Jesus is our brother. His spirit reached the at one ment and it was the goal to " save us all" from being stuck here on Earth and losing our spirit.
We are not God, the Father of creations. We have the same spirit, just as your child has the same, but your child is still not you.
The Word is an expression of this reality, of this life in matter as human flesh mixed with spirit of God within time.
The Word is fulfilling the law of this expression of experience.
In all of what what our senses tell us, God is telling a story. He is expressing himself through the Word, yes, but also in everything!! The Universe is an expression that is expanding with the thoughts of mankind. We are powerful with the knowledge we hold, yes, but we are incapable of knowing what to do with such power. We see this today within the mind sets of mankind. We are like little children and definitely not ready to play God. Just like our kids, they want to be grown before they are ready.
Expressions matter! Do you get it? Lol it's an awakening that truly liberates you!
We have to be quiet and listen, look, feel, smell in order to know what it is we are sensing.
We seek with the knowledge we have available and soon find God in everything.
Jesus is telling us the story of mankind with his Words! His goal, as OURS is to get mankind back to the tree of life.
Expressions are shown to truly matter within the flesh of mankind and all of nature! Our knowledge can lead us back to life, only if we work together in which the good order of nature flows.
Jesus shows us this! Quantum Mechanics shows us so much more than I ever dreamed of, the expressions of the different particles are lovely in their own right and their expressions matter just as much as we are all working toward the same goal.
Some spirits here are so bogged down with matter they will not be able to remember " in time".
We, through expressions of knowledge are trying really hard to help others that are in the " dark", remember.
This experience will evolve and the law of life will be had. The story of mankind will end.
Originally posted by gentledissident
Originally posted by Glass
But you're pointing at only one book out of dozens, if not hundreds, of books which talk about a creator. Have you ever wondered if all these books might hold some common truths?
There is a commonality. It's the homo sapien brain.