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Now, the document doesn't say he has to produce a Birth Certificate. Although Obama is the *FIRST* one to outright refuse.
I'm in my second college course on Photoshop and being trained professionally how to use the program as part of my undergraduate degree program.
Originally posted by micpsi
It has NOT been shown that he was born in Hawaii.
The proof has never been made public.
The certificate released by the White House is a proven forgery made on a computer.
The real idiots are those who don't want to lose face by admitting that they were wrong all along.....
Okay, point #1. I have a thread linked in my signature. It applies VERY well to some people. Very well indeed. You might want to go check it and see how closely it may just apply in your case. I'll leave that, right there......
Kinda like how anyone can put out a fabricated and layered Photoshop document and claim it's legitimate.
Maybe someday we'll find out WHAT about that document is so critical to hide. I figure daddy wasn't daddy as it's been presented.... Who knows... We absolutely won't while Obama has the full power of the Government behind him to block any access to that piece of paper.
It has NOT been shown that he was born in Hawaii. The proof has never been made public.
Originally posted by xuenchen
..... should we put all parties responsible on trial (posthumously) for treason?
Obama did not refuse. In fact he released his birth certificate in 2008 of his own accord. No one asked him to do that. No one asked him for a birth certificate before the election. After the election sore losers started demanding everything except an autopsy on his mother and father.
What relevance is Photoshop or your 'opinion' about what the PDF should or should not look like? The PDF document was never processed in any way by Photoshop. If you had even the most rudimentary understanding of Photoshop you could find that fact out for your self. Any cloak of credibility you may be trying to claim for your self here is completely negated with that assertion.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
If he released a Birth Cert in 2008, you will have a link or Screen Cap image of that 2008 release, correct?
I'm sorry I won't take anyone's "word" on this in a debate. Not now..and pretty much, never again on Obama related topics. Everyone has an opinion... MOST are wrong or totally without proof or backing beyond that personal opinion.
The "document" released in April last year had been modified, edited and layered as Photoshop DID clearly show. This was testified to under oath in a Court Room and before a Sitting Judge.
"The Court finds the testimony of the witnesses, as well as the exhibits tendered, to be of little, if any, probative value, and thus wholly insufficient to support plaintiffs’ allegations"
I hope any further claims of this or that come with more than your personal opinion, assertions, claims or otherwise lacking something beyond your own text to show it's validity.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
O.k. lets say for the sake of argument that America really is a corporation and it's run like one and all the old rules no longer apply.
Are we citizens then all employees of the corporation? Don't we all have our names registered to our corporate entities on the global market? If so, How do we like shareholders of any corporation, fight this? Don't we have the collective power because we have the greater numbers? Can't we do a hostile takeover?
Originally posted by Dawnbreaker
My question is why are people still crying over this whole certificate thing? Woah, what if you find conclusive proof of it tomorrow? You're gonna knock the last 4 months of his presidency off? Oooh, congratulations guys, great work! No. And if he gets reelected this will continue.....and just like the loch ness monster or bigfoot, you'll all keep looking, with a few "blurry" pictures every now and again, which everyone will look at differently. Nothing conclusive will ever come about. That's the reality of it.
TextThe Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone's pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. If we think about banks, we know they do not just lend us money out of the goodness of their hearts. A bank will not do anything for you unless it is entirely in their best interest to do so. There has to be some sort of collateral or some string attached which puts you and me (the borrower) into a subservient position. This was true back in 1871 as well. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend our floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a brilliant way of getting their foot in the door of the United States (a prize they had coveted for some time, but had been unable to grasp thanks to our Founding Fathers, who despised them and held them in check), and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
Of course it doesn't matter. We let immigrants vote, why wouldn't we let them be President?
Originally posted by On the Edge
Wouldn't this explain why our elections are such a sham also? Since shareholders decide who will run a corporation,right? Are the choices we're given really more like auditions for those shareholders,to see who holds up the best in front of the people?
Sure seems that way.