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Soldiers Who Urinated On Corpses, Burned Qurans Will Not Be Criminally Prosecuted

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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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(Reuters) - The U.S. military said on Monday it was disciplining U.S. troops over two incidents that provoked outrage in Afghanistan early this year, one involving a video depicting Marines urinating on corpses and another over burned copies of the Koran. But the administrative punishments fell short of criminal prosecution and it was unclear whether they would satisfy Afghan demands for justice. Afghan President Hamid Karzai branded the Marine's actions in the video as "inhuman," and he initially called for a public trial for the soldiers over the Koran incident.


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Semper Fidelis?
I would like to understand where the honor is in all this. Violence begets violence.

Do not be surprised that people despise you when you promote freedom and justice, but you show exactly the opposite.
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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Glad to hear it. Thanks for the update. Not saying what they did was correct, but young men under the pressures of war venting should not be criminally prosecuted. IMHO.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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i'm sure you'll be singing a different tune
when it's your corpse they piss on



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by wash777
Glad to hear it. Thanks for the update. Not saying what they did was correct, but young men under the pressures of war venting should not be criminally prosecuted. IMHO.


Oh would you say the same about a solider who comes to your lands and executes your son/daughter and then proceeds to urinate on your family photos?

Or is it only okay when you're killing and violating someone else's corpse in a different part of the world?

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These men should be stripped of all ranks and prosecuted, otherwise they set the standard for others.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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Seems like some kind of discipline should be used.

If these soldiers come back to the US and have their rights striped away expect them to cry like babies who just wet themselves.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
These men should be stripped of all ranks


Acceptable.


and prosecuted


Setting the morality and poor judgement aside, prosecute them on what charges exactly?


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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
Oh would you say the same about a solider who comes to your lands and executes your son/daughter and then proceeds to urinate on your family photos?

These men should be stripped of all ranks and prosecuted, otherwise they set the standard for others.


These soldiers executed no ones son/daughter. Nor did they urinate on family photos.

Perhaps you should stop pushing pro-Taliban spin?



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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If it was mine? Hell no! I'm dead, silly. What does my body mean?



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Again, the US gets out of the crimes...

History has shown that when US soldiers have acted inappropriately, they almost never get rightfully disciplined for their crimes.

Burning Korans and pissing on corpses is not the way a professional force should act, even under the stresses of war. Using stress as an excuse is bull# too. Other countries are in Afghanistan, and are put under the same stressful circumstances, yet they aren't tools which disrespect their enemies and their beliefs...

For example, there once was a Canadian unit who were engaged by insurgents. A Taliban sniper shot a Canadian medic (who didn't sustain serious damage, luckily). When the sniper was changing positions and advancing, he was shot and seriously injured.

Instead of putting a final bullet into the sniper's head, the medic rushed over and applied first aid to the man who had just tried to kill him.

That is the difference of professionalism between the American forces and the allied forces. Canadians, Australians, French and all the others don't go around burning Korans and pissing on bodies...so making excuses for the Americans is pathetic.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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I'm an American, thank God. We don't put up with that sort of thing.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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These blokes are expected to go to a foreign land and KILL people. That's part of thir job! The notion of playing by some set of rules like a bleeding game imo is completely stupid. I am sure that most of them aren't in the habbit of killing every bod they see, so they would have been "trained, brainwashed, conditioned" whatever word you want to use to get them to a point where they were able to execute their duty. Now I am sure that their minds were in a place where they were not looking at the enemy as some upstanding citizen but rather a less than equal being that is out there trying to do them harm. Hence, I can easily see that they wouldn't be treating them civilly(sp?). Hell, I sure wouldn't, especially when they are having their cobbers shot by, what do they call it? green on blue fire. Hell, give em a medal, not condemnation! and to the jerk that commented that wait till they're pi55ing on your kids. They won't be you fool! They are over there to stop the mongrel taliban and the rest of the ME maggots from bringing their pathetic philosophy over to the USA. Good on ya fellas you're heroes so don't let any of the pussies on here or anywhere else get to you with their cowardly "shame" tactics. And to the we want their oil conspiracy nutters, maybe, just maybe, these young blokes are thinking of their familiess and not of the so called conspiracy jokers. ooooh what a thing to ay on a conpiracy site. No matter, I am wearing stuff to retard the fires, ................... or should that be fire the retards
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posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
Oh would you say the same about a solider who comes to your lands and executes your son/daughter and then proceeds to urinate on your family photos?

Or is it only okay when you're killing and violating someone else's corpse in a different part of the world?


I love left wing armchair warriors such as yourself. Here are some attrocities committed by the people you are so keen to defend.

U.S. releases Taliban 'catalogue of atrocities'


• The Taliban killed eight boys who laughed at soldiers
• Burned an entire family alive
• Killed 100 Afghans and hung their bodies from lamp posts to warn would-be defectors
• When the Taliban captured Afghanistan's capital city of Kabul, castrated the country's president and killed and tortured his brother
• The 1998 massacre of 600 Uzbek villagers.
• The 1998 capture of Mazar-e Sharif, which included, according to Human Rights watch, the execution of scores of men and boys and the rape of women and girls.
• The Defense Department also said shop owners, cart pullers and women and children shoppers were killed.-- The 2001 massacre in Yakaolang, which included, according to Human Right Watch, the executing of at least 170 men

CNN


Where is your outrage at real atrocities committed by the Taliban?

Are you going to demand that the Taliban are stripped of their rank and prosecuted?

Are you even aware that the vast majority of Afghans want nothing to do with the Taliban who are seen as a bunch of murdering Islamic extremists?

For instance,

Taliban behead 17 caught dancing to music at party

Urinate on dead Taliban? The soldiers should have danced on them!

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posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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I'm not saying I' m glad they did what they did I'm just not particularly bothered by it. People often have this romanticized holy wood notion of what war is and in reality it is a very gruesome and horrifying thing. I do not believe there is a gentlemanly or "nice" way to go about it.

Furthers it's not like the guys our boys are fighting are exactly playing politely either.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
i'm sure you'll be singing a different tune
when it's your corpse they piss on


I think it was poor judgement and taste on their part but If I'm a corpse who gives a damn?

Not me I'll rot anyways.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by daaskapital
Again, the US gets out of the crimes...

History has shown that when US soldiers have acted inappropriately, they almost never get rightfully disciplined for their crimes.

Burning Korans and pissing on corpses is not the way a professional force should act, even under the stresses of war. Using stress as an excuse is bull# too. Other countries are in Afghanistan, and are put under the same stressful circumstances, yet they aren't tools which disrespect their enemies and their beliefs...

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Right,because US soldiers are the only ones who've ever done such a thing! I love how you and many others here give everyone else a free pass as long as they aren't Amercian. We're supposed to be held to a higher standard according to the rest of the world.


You lost all credibility when you mentioned the Koran. Who cares? It's a god damn book,just like the bible. It means nothing.That's just your attempt (like the muslims) to inflame things by bringing it up. It's no more important then any other book on the planet. And I can guarentee you those "tools" are doing the same things. It's just not reported as much because it doesn't make as good a headline as "American Soldiers piss on bodies,burn Koran".
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posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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War is built on racism and dehumanization. It doesn't surprise me.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by nightstalker78

Originally posted by daaskapital
Again, the US gets out of the crimes...

History has shown that when US soldiers have acted inappropriately, they almost never get rightfully disciplined for their crimes.

Burning Korans and pissing on corpses is not the way a professional force should act, even under the stresses of war. Using stress as an excuse is bull# too. Other countries are in Afghanistan, and are put under the same stressful circumstances, yet they aren't tools which disrespect their enemies and their beliefs...

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Right,because US soldiers are the only ones who've ever done such a thing! I love how you and many others here give everyone else a free pass as long as they aren't Amercian. We're supposed to be held to a higher standard according to the rest of the world.


Yes, the US is meant to be held to a higher standard than every other country fighting in Afghanistan...because it is their war, they started it!


You lost all credibility when you mentioned the Koran. Who cares? It's a god damn book,just like the bible. It means nothing.That's just your attempt (like the muslims) to inflame things by bringing it up. It's no more important then any other book on the planet.


You lost all credibility when you implied that other cultures view things the same as you do. The Koran may just be a book to you, but it is everything to the Muslims in the Middle East. They don't view the Koran as just another book, they see it as their life! That is why there was a country wide riot in Afghanistan as a result of the burnings.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
These soldiers executed no ones son/daughter. Nor did they urinate on family photos.

Yes, they urinated on corpses. I guess that is so much better?


Originally posted by ollncasino
I love left wing armchair warriors such as yourself. Here are some attrocities committed by the people you are so keen to defend.

So your argument is that since the Taliban are so vile, the US can be vile too? Kinda throws the idea of them having the moral high ground out the _



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:36 AM
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So your argument is that since the Taliban are so vile, the US can be vile too? Kinda throws the idea of them having the moral high ground out the _

What moral high ground? There wasn't one in the first place.



posted on Aug, 28 2012 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by babloyi
So your argument is that since the Taliban are so vile, the US can be vile too? Kinda throws the idea of them having the moral high ground out the _


Taliban behead 17 caught dancing to music at party

I personally think that when US soldiers kill Taliban they should dance on their bodies.

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