reply to post by votan
How is this right??? No one seems to be able to answer this question.
It's not right, but it is understandable given the circumstances.
I'm not sure how informed you are of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but rock throwing is a very serious matter. Many Israeli citizens have been
killed because of it; many soldiers seriously injured i.e a rock thrown at their face, which isn't protected.
People seem to treat this matter as if it weren't a big deal: the irony is, when Palestinian youth throw rocks, it's excused as "just rocks"; when
IDF troops take one of the rock throwers and tie him to the front of their vehicle to deter the rock throwing - it's using someone as a "human
That is misleading. When thinks of human shield, what should come to mind is what the Palestinian terrorists do: they hide behind non-combatants in
situations of live fire in order to induce the IDF to kill civilians. Thus, the intention behind 'the human shield' in this situation is to create a
situation in which civilians will be killed.
Here, the IDF probably understood that these kids wouldn't throw rocks if they knew that one of their rocks would harm their friend. It was a risk -
yes - but it was a somewhat reasonable risk in that they weren't dealing with bullets, grenades or fire bombs, but little hoodlum punks who don't
realize the danger that throwing rocks can cause to people, to vehicles etc.
It wasn't intelligent, ultimately, because of the PR effect it would have. But given the circumstances, it is hardly as offensive as you and others
are making it out to be. These were kids. They wouldn't have thrown rocks if they knew their friend could get hurt. If they did throw rocks - that
only shows how inhuman they are.
So, understand that. The IDF and it's soldiers are trying very hard to control this situation they are in. Day in and day out they deal with this
abuse - and they have to tolerate this distortion in the worlds media against them. They throw rocks, they shoot rockets, they commit terrorist
attacks - and when they respond, it's they - the IDF, and Israel - who is demonized for "inordinate response" - when the enemy - this wily,
astoundingly immoral pack of Islamists - create situations designed to maximize civilian casualties: locating their military and governmental
facilities in residential neighborhoods (unlike the IDF or most militaries) so that when the IAF responds to terror attacks, there will be collateral
damage. When they go into Gaza or the territories - as in operation cast lead - IDF troops complained that hamas terrorists shot from crowded areas -
with the intention that the IDF response would kill civilians.
This is amazing. Just look at this chain of events:
They shoot rockets at Israeli towns, killing civilians, or commit terrorist attacks ---> Israeli public clamors for retribution, to bring a stop to
these attacks on their lives ----> IDF plans air raids, or in the odd situation, land raids ---> Hamas locates their facilities in precarious areas,
in order to induce civilian casualties ---> during the air strike, or offensive, civilians are inadvertently killed because of the situations in which
they find themselves ---> Hamas, and the Palestinians win a political victory against Israel: even though they initiate the violence, and incite
hatred against Jews, Judaism in their media, and even though they have strategic designs for the IDF to kill more civilians then they kill in terror
attacks, it is the Israeli's held responsible. This is what one diplomat called Hamas' "cruel calculus of numbers"; more people dead on their side
means a political win. And to beat Israel requires political support. And they get it because reasonable human beings aren't seeing whats being done
against the Israelis.
Yes, this was a stupid, mostly innocuous stunt. But you can definitely understand their frustration in dealing with this predicament day in and day
out. You can imagine that they just resolved to try something like this to force a cessation to their rock throwing.