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Are you sure you read the entire original post? No where did I paint a "light" and "black" light. I even said that by doing what you want for yourself you will be happier and people will notice your happiness when you interact with them influencing them to be happy.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by arpgme
Why should I do the DIS-service of serving people when I can BETTER serve them by teaching them to be strong and NOT depending on others?
When have you evever taught someone to be strong? What have you done in that space? Its easy to talk on here but where is your track record??
edit on 27-8-2012 by AthlonSavage because: ok we have moved her back over the castle wall in retreat!edit on 27-8-2012 by AthlonSavage because: i say her because her avatar is in pink text.
I learn helping people and I love giving them the wisdom that I learn, but do you know WHY I do it? Because "I" do not like ignorance, so in my own selfish desire for KNOWLEDGE I learn and THEN - as a RESULT - I share with others...
Originally posted by arpgme
When you focus on strength of yourself:
You begin to love yourself instead of hate and become less likely to judge others...
Originally posted by gosseyn
What the OP is trying to say, I guess, is that whatever you do, you do it for yourself. Whatever you do, you do it in order to be consistent with your own values. If you spend your life helping others without thinking one second for yourself, you do it to be in accordance with your own values, you do it because you have a certain idea of living life and you want to be in accordance to that idea, to yourself, to your values. If you give your life to save the lives of 50 children in a burning school, you do it because this is your idea of "honor", because this is your idea of how things should happen, your idea of how a life should be lived, and you want to be consistent with that. At the end of the day, it is always you, your ideas, your values and being consistent with yourself, with your ideas and your values. If you make a gift to your own mother, you do it for yourself. I would say that others are merely the mirrors of yourself. In other words, when it comes to the why we do things, to the motivation, it is always selfish, but it should be separated from the "result" (whether others benefit from your actions or not). The motivation is always selfish, the result of that motivation is another story.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain
The other is the self becoming formless. Anyone who reaches that point doesnt need Ats to tell them whats whats!
edit on 27-8-2012 by AthlonSavage because: i came i saw and i conquered!
Very interesting. Because a parasite does not give "To YOU" you assume that it does not give at all. Now that is really selfish (which is very ironic since you seem to be against STS). Parasites give by taking from you to create eggs to create more parasite life.
Like I already said before, it is impossible to take without giving back. If you do things for yourself and become happy, when you talk to others, people will sense your happiness and you will influence them.