reply to post by arpgme
I simply said that instead of helping people all the time, we should teach them to help themselves so that they can be independent and free from
depending on others.
No one helps others every waking minute. And by the way you are speaking it is very obvious you have never been in need as a lot of the
time....PEOPLE CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES.
If a person does not have any insurance and has a medical ailment requiring a prescription, if they do not get it, they will die. If you buy it for
them, or give them your left over pills, it is against your self interest, but it means the world to the person receiving it. They have absolutely no
way to get the funds on their own. They are also dependent on;
2. Pharmaceutical companies
3. Trucks that drive the pharmaceuticals to the store
4. Doctors to write the prescription
5. Petroleum fuel
5. Everything else....
You're dependent on a million different things yourself. This "dependent" argument is senseless because you cannot make everything you may need in
life to survive, like medicine. Unless you live on a farm, you are dependent on corporations to ship FOOD to your area, and another corporation to put
it in a store, for you to purchase. You can in no way believe any sort of "independent" ideology unless you are 100% self sufficient. Money doesn't
buy true independence.
Helping a person in their struggle is OK. Becoming "service to others" and always giving, giving, giving, instead of teaching them to be
independent and do things by themselves is another story.
This goes against your entire OP, as you said people should only be fixated on their own self interest. Now you are just backtracking.
in fact it did since even animals knew better than to keep depending on others and to actually DO for themselves.
There are a ton of animals that depend on one another, like most primates! Humans are one of them.....as we depend on social contact or we go
Then every single human and animals alive is a "psychopath" if that is what selfishness is. Everyone is selfish to some extent and to say
otherwise is to be a liar.
Incorrect, most humans have the ability to feel empathy. Psychopaths who are born such, tend to have damage to areas of the brain that process
emotion. You can be an incredibly selfish person and still feel guilt for the things you do, psychopaths won't.
People help others to feel good about themselves, that they "did" something for another.
Here you go again, showing your psychopathy. Maybe you do, since you have a ego problem. But if I tend to help someone, say I give them a ride to
work...I'm doing that to make myself feel better? Are you kidding me. I probably did it so they wouldn't get fired......
And you know what the corporations are doing? GIVING people jobs!
Incorrect, without the worker there would be no corporation, without the consumer there would be no profit in order to create a job. It's all an
interdependent system upon one another, I know, you hate to hear that, but it's true.
People sit like slaves in a factory working all day for a "dollar" knowing that they are being taken advantage of but they allow it to happen,
why? Because they don't think about They have low SELF-esteem, so they don't speak up.
LOL?! Are you kidding me? They do it because they live in extreme poverty and are forced to or starve. You should also study history a bit, when
workers would organize, form unions, or protest...they would end up killed a lot of the times BY THE CORPORATIONS. It still happens in lesser
developed countries, with those slave wages. They are there by force, threats, and no other choice.
This is what happens when you begin to hate the SELF or try to put focus on another. You get scare to speak up when you are being taken advantage
No, this is what happens when someone has a gun to your head. If someone robbed you at gunpoint, pretty sure you're going to give up all the goods,
99% of people do.
edit on 27-8-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)