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Why is Chase Brandon talking about Roswell?

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posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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I want to discuss the Chase Brandon story not so much focused on what he claims to have seen in the so called "Roswell box" at the CIA, or Roswell itself, but rather on his motivations because I suspect there might be something worthy of analysis there.

Chase Brandon is a 35 year veteran of the CIA. He worked in the Clandestine Service for 25 years, and then served as Public Affairs spokesman, and finally as "the CIA's first-ever official liaison to the entertainment and publication industries." His work at the CIA obviously required him to be knowledgeable about a wide range of espionage techniques. In fact, according to his bio, Brandon even served as "an instructor in tactical paramilitary and espionage tradecraft disciplines at secret CIA training camps."

There is also indication that he is currently employed as a senior consultant at the intelligence arm of one of the biggest military contractors in the world.

In other words, and if his bio is to be trusted, Brandon is a real spy, not just some asset to be easily manipulated by the Agency.

Why is this relevant? Well, some have suggested this "Roswell box" might have been some sort of honeypot (of disinformation) to weed out unreliable agents, incapable of keeping secrets. I find this unlikely for two reasons: (1) considering his expertise and experience it's doubtful he would have been so easily fooled by a box of documents and photographs, and (2) if it was part of a plan to catch unreliable agents, why is he still being allowed to talk about it?

The CIA had proof Brandon was unreliable after the first time he talked about the "Roswell box." He chose Coast to Coast for his first interview to talk about the book and the "Roswell box," a notorious and very visible venue. Since then he hasn't stopped talking to the media and appearing on even more radio shows and podcasts. Why allow a former agent to keep calling attention to the subject and implicating the CIA as having knowledge of UFOs and Roswell, whether real or fabricated?

The Agency has responded to at least one inquiry about Brandon and his Roswell claims and responded with its historians having "found nothing in the Agency's holdings to corroborate Mr. Brandon's specific claims."

There is no doubt the Agency is aware of his claims and where he allegedly got the information.

Additionally, there's the fact that he is selling a book, ironically about a CIA agent who uncovers information about UFOs, and more specifically Roswell. Why is the CIA seemingly okay with a former agent using the Agency's name to sell books? And not only using the CIA's name, but either making up stuff about what the Agency supposedly knows about Roswell — according to its official response — or, even worse, having disclosed sensitive CIA information.

Despite all this, according to the latest interview (pt. 1, pt. 2) I've listened to, he claims no one in CIA contacted him or told him to stop talking.

Why would this 30+ year high ranking CIA veteran jeopardise his pension and place in the Agency's history in order to sell a few books? My suspicion is that he wouldn't. And he isn't. I suspect the CIA, despite publicly saying Brandon's claims are unsubstantiated, is okay with his actions. Perhaps even suggested he do what he's doing.

I suspect there might be an answer to this somewhere in the "core message" he is disseminating, and the CIA's actions, or inactions.

On all the shows I've listened to him talk he has always emphasized 3 points: (1) Roswell happened and it wasn't human in origin, (2) some other government agency or agencies, not the CIA, back then decided not to share this information for whatever reason, and (3) the CIA is really great and the people in it are professional and patriotic hard working folks. This is what I think Brandon's "core message" is. And for whatever reason he, and maybe the CIA, want us to believe that message.

Is this just some guy trying to sell books, or is there something more to his actions? And if so, what?

Share your thoughts, but please be civil and stay on topic.

PS: Forgot to mention that I believe 95-99% of what Brandon claims and wrote is in all likelihood disinformation.




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posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Hmm.. How do I not know of this guy.
Cool find.
Sounds very intriguing.

As long as he's not the dude that says
he saw Nibiru on a gov telescope.
That guy is whack.

What's in the box?
What other claims has he made?
Guess I got some interviews to listen to.

Cool S&F


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posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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He is only placing his pension and himself in possible trouble if what he was saying was true. If he was writing facts the CIA would be able to edit his book. If he is telling and writing fiction to make a buck then the CIA could care less and let him talk or write about it forever. To me this is just a guy using his back ground to get people to buy his book. I can not lie I have been considering doing the same.



posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by MrSpad
He is only placing his pension and himself in possible trouble if what he was saying was true.

Or wasn't sanctioned to do whatever he is doing.


If he was writing facts the CIA would be able to edit his book.

He says he had to submit the manuscript to the CIA's Publications Review Board. This fact is apparently noted on one of the first pages of the published book. Brandon claims on his interviews the PRB edited some things.



posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by sealing
What's in the box?

He says he can't talk about what's in the box, only that whatever materials are in it convinced him of his beliefs regarding Roswell.


What other claims has he made?

He has hinted he doesn't believe the official story of the JFK assassination. He tells a story about knowing the doctor that inspected JFK's body and that he told him the deadly shot came from the front.

He hints about other stuff like ancient structures and that sort of thing but never makes any explicit claims. The only explicit claim he makes is regarding Roswell because of what was in that so called "Roswell box."



posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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Too many "authors"pushing their books these days...Shock value and all that ...



posted on Aug, 26 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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I think I read somewhere about this box, was it not a gift? I can't re-call much now was a while back..



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Spares
I think I read somewhere about this box, was it not a gift? I can't re-call much now was a while back..

This "Roswell box" was, according to Chase Brandon, a box he found at the Historical Intelligence Collection (HIC) in Langley, that simply had "Roswell" written on it and contained materials (sic) that confirmed his belief about Roswell.

I think there was no such box. I am just analyzing his comments and the Agency's reactions to it trying to deduce the motivations for making them.

Some people think it's exclusively so Brandon can sell more books. That's a perfectly valid conclusion and I recognize it's the simplest and most probable explanation, but I think there's more to it than that.




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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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I think he's one of the myth-makers who come out of military and intelligence branches over the years. They dwell on their backgrounds to add mystery and they always have enough people believing them for their tales to become a part of UFO Lore. Consequently, the landscape of people's belief-systems in the paranormal and ufology are altered. In some cases, it's perception management, but more often than that - it's plain BS.

In this case, he's selling a book and BSing to his heart's content to generate PR for it. The claim's got no logical integrity whatsoever and has no impact on the CIA's reputation so he can carry on.

However, if you read this (Graham and Alford), you might be surprised.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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I am aware of Graham's work about the relation of the CIA with the entertainment industry, and more specifically Chase Brandon. That's what got me interested in Brandon in the first place. But thanks for the heads up!

I have a hard time believing the CIA doesn't care one bit that a 35 year veteran former agent — highly connected by the looks of Graham's research — is claiming the CIA had in its possession material that confirmed whatever crashed in Roswell as alien in origin, when the Agency spent considerable time and effort convincing the public there was nothing to UFOs, and even ridiculing the subject.

The CIA already responded to Graham that Agency's historians didn't find anything to substantiate Brandon's "specific claims." Why not nip it in the bud by saying the HIC was an open source library and even if Brandon had seen something there it was just documents the CIA gathered from open news sources like newspapers?

Add to that the fact that not long ago the White House come out with their public stance on alien visitation to planet Earth, saying the "U.S .government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race."

An election is coming up and the last thing any elected official wants is be involved and implicated with UFOs, so I find it unlikely no one in government would care that a former high-ranking CIA agent is saying the government has proof and it's covering it up.

I wouldn't even question it if the comments were coming from someone who didn't have the experience and importance that Brandon apparently had in the Agency. And I'm not saying the simplest explanation here — that he is just selling books — isn't the most likely. I just feel, whatever that's worth, there's something more to it.

And it's not even because of Roswell. That's the aspect of the story I care less about.





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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by Quaesitor

Originally posted by sealing
What's in the box?

He says he can't talk about what's in the box, only that whatever materials are in it convinced him of his beliefs regarding Roswell.


What other claims has he made?

He has hinted he doesn't believe the official story of the JFK assassination. He tells a story about knowing the doctor that inspected JFK's body and that he told him the deadly shot came from the front.

He hints about other stuff like ancient structures and that sort of thing but never makes any explicit claims. The only explicit claim he makes is regarding Roswell because of what was in that so called "Roswell box."



Cool thanks for that !
I appreciate it. I'm listening to part 2 of the interview.
Interesting!



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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I am just analyzing his comments and the Agency's reactions to it trying to deduce the motivations for making them.

har

Good luck with that!



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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From what I gather he has said he saw a box within the "historical library" that had a label "Roswell" on it. When he inspected it's contents it re-affirmed his view that the events during 1947 ,that have gone down in modern folklore, were in fact something perhaps extra-terrestrial.

By stating that has he broken any United States laws?

And even if he did all he has told us is his beliefs. Nothing to verify what the contents actually were.

We still know nothing other than who Chase Brandon is and that he has written a book.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by mirageman
By stating that has he broken any United States laws?

Richard Doty also gave secret and top secret information to civilians, and he was once the target of an FBI investigation but never charged with anything. Which means that either everything he disseminated was disinformation or it was sanctioned, or both.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Quaesitor

Richard Doty also gave secret and top secret information to civilians, and he was once the target of an FBI investigation but never charged with anything. Which means that either everything he disseminated was disinformation or it was sanctioned, or both.

Or a thousand other possibilities which, apparently, flew right past you.

For one----> The publicity at the time might have been considered potentially more of a threat than his prosecution.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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Thank you for your participation but are you going to post anything related to what this thread is about or you're exclusively going to keep posting snarky comments?

Since you apparently have thousands of ideas concerning the possible publication of classified information, and the apparent impunity of those doing it, I sure am interested in your take on Chase Brandon.




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posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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I listened to Pt 1 of the Ecker interview and read the article. He doesn't seem to be giving away much here. His first book is fiction and was vetted by the Ubermeisters at CIA. He said they asked him to change some names, but indicated it was a very light edit. He's also not a typical whistleblower type as all he will say is that he looked in a box. He won't say what was there. Otherwise he seems like, well, rather typical. I don't mean that to be negative. He's just interested in the same things we all are, like how did the Machu Pichu stone work get there and how did they fit them so precisely? He hasn't really made any value-added statements about Roswell and seems to know just about the same amount as anyone interested in the case.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Thanks for the comments schuyler.

I am not really interested in this particular story because of the novelty of the claims, which is none as you've pointed out. Nor am I even interested due to the nature of the claims, because I don't take them seriously — I suspect there is no box, or that he even saw any Roswell materials at all, assuming there materials to be seen.

I'm interested because this isn't the ordinary "whistleblower," whose CV we can't confirm or is usually low ranking. And I find the CIA's reaction intriguing.

Maybe I am looking too hard and this is just a guy saying whatever he thinks will help him sell more books and the Agency doesn't care.



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
However, if you read this (Graham and Alford), you might be surprised.



That's pretty creepy. Makes you wonder if Chase Brandon had a role in all of this. First I've heard of this particular mystery.

For some reason, it also made me wonder (for the first time since his death), if Tony Scott's suicide was a real suicide. (just by the timing when I read this and the fact that we've got contradictory info in relation to Tony Scott's death).



posted on Aug, 27 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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I think you are likely mostly accurate.

I don't know that 95% or more is disinformation . . . plenty likely is.

I certainly believe that the powers that be are intent on foisting the fallen angels as distant planet citizens on the global population in a massive GREAT DECEPTION that Christ Himself warned about in behalf of the satanic global government.

I think THAT'S more likely what he's supporting or working toward . . . It seems to me there's been lots of incremental stuff like that the last year.



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