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Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by ideasarebulletproof
Look up "Godwins Law".
Iran is notorious for Holocaust denial and makes sure everyone know about it. -- Zionist Israel overly embellishes the Holocaust to gain international support, while perpetrating the same terror upon another group of people, until this very day.
Iran is calling for the destruction of Israel. -- I see Iran calling for the dismantling of the Zionist Regime, as Israel has been calling for the destruction of Iran for... wait for it...Decades.
Iran is sponsoring Terrorists groups who call for Genocide of Jews. -- Israel is sponsoring Terrorist organizations whose goal is to kill Iranians and even Americans, in some cases.
Iran and its sponsored terrorist groups use a Nazi salute and symbols. -- starting to grasp at straws.....
Iran is spreading Anti Antisemitism – Nazi style – demonizing Jews. 'The Protocols of the elders of Zion' is one of their best sellers. -- And Israel / the west haven't been condemning the Middle East for, again, decades? Spreading islamaphobia, etc.
And of course that means Iran are like the Nazis??? Do the pro-Israel people have any arguments that don't involve the holocaust???
Still a mystery hovers over Iran’s Jews. It’s important to decide what’s more significant: the annihilationist anti-Israel ranting, the Holocaust denial and other Iranian provocations — or the fact of a Jewish community living, working and worshipping in relative tranquillity.
Perhaps I have a bias toward facts over words, but I say the reality of Iranian civility toward Jews tells us more about Iran — its sophistication and culture — than all the inflammatory rhetoric.
That may be because I’m a Jew and have seldom been treated with such consistent warmth as in Iran. Or perhaps I was impressed that the fury over Gaza, trumpeted on posters and Iranian TV, never spilled over into insults or violence toward Jews. Or perhaps it’s because I’m convinced the “Mad Mullah” caricature of Iran and likening of any compromise with it to Munich 1938 — a position popular in some American Jewish circles — is misleading and dangerous.
Double standards don’t work anymore; the Middle East has become too sophisticated. One way to look at Iran’s scurrilous anti-Israel tirades is as a provocation to focus people on Israel’s bomb, its 41-year occupation of the West Bank, its Hamas denial, its repetitive use of overwhelming force. Iranian language can be vile, but any Middle East peace — and engagement with Tehran — will have to take account of these points.
Originally posted by seabag
Tell me the flaw in my logic!
edit on 26-8-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by IsThisThingBugged
reply to post by seabag
I agree with your sentiment. Only thing I would caution is to not cast the Iranian people as a whole with this stain. The regime is the issue not necessarily the entire population.
That being said, if I was Israel I wouldn't be thrilled about that "nuclear" program...
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by HUMBLEONE
Then lets just light this candle shall we? Is that what you want? Armageddon? Because thats what the PTB are trying to do and you are falling for it hook, line and sinker. In the words of the late, great Rodney King, "can't we all just get along"?
Dude, you are so far off base….
The OP was an attempt at debating the rationale between different ideologies not advocating war.
Please explain the justification for murdering an innocent woman or child……
The firestorm started when Nazila Fathi, then the Tehran correspondent of The New York Times, reported a story almost six years ago that was headlined: “Wipe Israel ‘off the map’ Iranian says.” The article attributed newly elected Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s remarks to a report by the ISNA press agency.
The article sparked outrage around the globe, with then-President George W. Bush and other world leaders condemning Ahmadinejad’s statement. The original New York Times article noted that Ahmadinejad said he was quoting Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the leader of the Islamic revolution, but that aspect was largely overlooked.
Then, specialists such as Juan Cole of the University of Michigan and Arash Norouzi of the Mossadegh Project pointed out that the original statement in Persian did not say that Israel should be wiped from the map, but instead that it would collapse.
Cole said this week that in the 1980s Khomeini gave a speech in which he said in Persian “Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” This means, “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the arena of time.” But then anonymous wire service translators rendered Khomeini as saying that Israel “must be wiped off the face of the map,” which Cole and Nourouzi say is inaccurate.
Originally posted by My_Reality
reply to post by seabag
Where is my outrage regarding the lack of civil rights in the Middle East? I am not outraged. What outrages me is how you would like to force the people of that region to live by your standards. Forcing people to conform to what you want is called terrorism. See how easy it is to throw that label around?
Wow , your a real piece of work.
Originally posted by dontreally
Think hard: what would be the immediate consequence of Iran's killing its 23,000 Jews?? International condemnation? Sanctions? Worst of all - they would lose all CREDIBILITY!!!
The Jews of Iran are and will be in a precarious state; when the time comes - they're over with.