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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by hawkiye
Why should you vote??
You should vote and vote your conscience even if you have to write in your candidate!
You should do this just in case the shooting starts, a righteous person always has the high ground in mental warfare!
You can truly say that you did try for peace!
Those who make peaceful.... forget it, nobody listens anyway.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I take your point well and given that I don't live in a place that has (as of yet) dropped paper ballots, I'm not sure how I'll feel when they do. Right now, we're still on 'fill in the arrow with a pen' next to the name and then it gets fed by the voter into a locked ballot box with a computer scanner on the front of it for quick count to the state. We still had the paper as of Primaries this year......
Putting aside national level stuff entirely for a moment to avoid a debate about the Electoral College and how that system is seen as unfair by some, there is a VERY good reason to still vote. Two words.
I really don't like either guy.. Obama I hate..Romney I don't trust or like. I'm not going so I can vote for the President in November. It's just an area of the ballot I'll have to put something in. I'm going for the ballot initiatives, the city elected offices, School board positions and ....after Akin the Embecile opened his ignorant big mouth, I'm absolutely going to vote AGAINST HIM. Still though... All those local races aren't rigged in the way the Nationals very well may be.......and the President doesn't set my local tax rates and laws I'm having to follow or be ticketed and fined for.edit on 26-8-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: Context correction about going to polls
I agree with you! I mean if you look at our two choices, it seems the globalist, bankers win either way,
Well when you see the polls, the vote and the exit polling all show pretty much the same thing then you have a pretty good idea that voter fraud is few and far between. I believe the number of proven cases over that last 20 years has proven almost none. However, if you are one of those people that think everyone is in on it then you have no way to prove your vote counted. Of course most likley you do not leave your tinfoil wrapped basement to vote anyway.
The way I see it there are two possible outcomes.
1. Your vote count.
In which case you not voting has caused you to give up one of your rights, and you've not fulfilled your societal obligation as a citizen in this Republic.
And if you did, well good job.
2. Your vote doesn't matter.
Not voting does nothing.
Furthermore, there is no reason to not vote...A vote for one person is a vote against another...You do not like either MSM candidate, then vote for any of the other choices...
Its better to vote, and come back and fight your vote being manipulated. Than it is to not vote, and hope someone takes you seriously when you try and tell them voting doesnt count.
Vote with the hopes it matters, and go from there. If you feel your vote is not counted, sue your government, start a petition, talk to your friends, gather minds to combat the issue.. Not participating and then complaining never seems to be a valid way in my mind to handle almost any issue.
This forum is full of a lot of problems, but everyone is waiting for someone to come and solve it.. We need to be taking these ideas and spreading them. We need to be our own MSM. When you run a business, they tell you nothing is more powerful then word of mouth. I believe talking to people about these issues would incite a desire for immediate change