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Originally posted by Myendica
You are right. But how fair is life for men. We talk of rape and abortion and child birth.. But when does a father get a right to make decisions for their child? Mother decides to keep it or not. Then once born, the mother has majority of custody right off the bat.
Depending what the mother puts on the b.c., I very well may never seemy child again. Now I dont have to worry about this, as I am married and my wife and I arent stupid arent going to get pregnant unless we make tat decision. But there are some extremely sad, upset, depressed men out there, because the woman with their child either aborts it, or keeps it away from them.
Is this fair? I believe abortion is a womans choice, but just think to yourself, what if we took all newborns and gave them to the father.. Women evrywhere would cry. So think about how the guy feels... FoR ONCE.
Originally posted by aaaiii
Not another abortion thread.....
I'm curious. In this whole abortion debate no one ever mentions spontaneous abortion, which is the body rejecting the fetus for whatever reason.
If the body aborts, why is it different from medicine interfering with the process?
I'm neutral. For personal reasons, I can no longer offer an opinion.
Originally posted by Jepic
But we are not talking about the woman's body here. We are talking about the baby which is a creation that could only arise from sperm (male) and an egg (female).
Originally posted by Socrato
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Maybe you should stop bringing your personal drama in here and stop pretending like just because you had a pregnancy scare and someone wanted you to have a baby that your logic applies to everyone alive. Oh and stop sleeping around too.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Jepic
But we are not talking about the woman's body here. We are talking about the baby which is a creation that could only arise from sperm (male) and an egg (female).
NO we ARE talking about the woman's body. Its her body that is used to carry a baby to term over 9 months and she has rights to decide if she wants to or not. You cant force her to have a child for you because men don't have rights to unborn children.
Originally posted by QUANTUMGR4V17Y
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
We (men) don't have rights, but you (women) have the rights to dictate that men will or will not pay child support for 18 years, will or will not even see the child, or what you may or may not be able to do with that child.
I fail to see logic,
women get to dictate the next 18 years of free paychecks, but men have no say in the next 9 months? Pretty sure that my child support is from the physical labor of my WORK, thus are women not dictating what I am doing with MY body for the next 18 years
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Socrato
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Maybe you should stop bringing your personal drama in here and stop pretending like just because you had a pregnancy scare and someone wanted you to have a baby that your logic applies to everyone alive. Oh and stop sleeping around too.
Its not personal drama, its educating people on the rights of the individual. Let me break it down even simpler so you can understand:
Women is pregnant - Her body, her right to abortion.
Man has knocked up a woman - He has no right to force her to bring the child to term because its not his body.
Originally posted by Myendica
Im going to leave the op with a small saying. Life, is often about sacrifice. Sometimes you need to step aside, and put your emotions ad feelings ad beliefs aside, and do what is right for all involved, not just whats best for yourself.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Socrato
reply to post by SearchLightsInc
Maybe you should stop bringing your personal drama in here and stop pretending like just because you had a pregnancy scare and someone wanted you to have a baby that your logic applies to everyone alive. Oh and stop sleeping around too.
Its not personal drama, its educating people on the rights of the individual. Let me break it down even simpler so you can understand:
Women is pregnant - Her body, her right to abortion.
Man has knocked up a woman - He has no right to force her to bring the child to term because its not his body.
. Where did I say anything about gender in that quote? You just hate men dont you.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Myendica
Im going to leave the op with a small saying. Life, is often about sacrifice. Sometimes you need to step aside, and put your emotions ad feelings ad beliefs aside, and do what is right for all involved, not just whats best for yourself.
This expectation that would should "Sacrifice" for others is gender role brainwashing. She has rights to her reproductive organs and they should be acknowledged and RESPECTED.
Originally posted by Jepic
The woman doesn't have a right to abort if the man wants the baby.
So for example in the case of a woman who wants abortion but the man does not, a good deal would be for the woman to have the baby but hand full responsibility of raising the child to the man.
Originally posted by Myendica
. Where did I say anything about gender in that quote? You just hate men dont you.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Originally posted by Myendica
Im going to leave the op with a small saying. Life, is often about sacrifice. Sometimes you need to step aside, and put your emotions ad feelings ad beliefs aside, and do what is right for all involved, not just whats best for yourself.
This expectation that would should "Sacrifice" for others is gender role brainwashing. She has rights to her reproductive organs and they should be acknowledged and RESPECTED.