Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Eurisko2012, your rants are hardly helpful to anyone. Also, your silly attempt at making yourself seem amused isn't working - it's obvious you're mad as hell.

Anyway.. the ratio of evidence for crop circles being man made and alien made is 100% man made / 0% alien made. It's nothing more than well expected that there are countless videos and confessions of people who make these things, while there's zero evidence of anything extraterrestrial in these crop circles throughout history.

The only thing you might consider calling evidence is your laughable excuses for why these can't possibly be man made. They are all invalid and factually wrong, yet you act like anyone that claims otherwise is a nut, when it's obvious who the nuts are.

As I said earlier, at large - the very idea of aliens traveling all the way to Earth only to make vague signs in crop fields that nobody is able to understand the meaning of, is absurd. What's more absurd is people like you who can't comprehend that these circles are hoaxes by people who reel you and the likes of you one by one, time after time only to have themselves entertained by the mass of fools that "use throughout thinking" into deciding these works are extraterrestrial.

If I had a crop field I'd be making quick $$ from the likes of you. I'd probably manage to sell you a genuine gray alien autograph and a stone from alpha-centauri.

edit on 28-8-2012 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)

Okay, you have the confidence! Great!

Go ahead and make an exact copy of this cube crop circle.

I don't want to hear anymore excuses. Stop pontificating and make the exact same

crop circle. Video tape it and put it on YouTube. I predict you will fall flat on your face

and then declare " It cannot be done."

Originally posted by thesneakiod

Originally posted by micpsi

Originally posted by thesneakiod

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger

Originally posted by Signals
I'd like for someone to explain how some dudes with planks, ropes, and stilts did this in the middle of the night....

no need to
dudes with planks, ropes, and stilts did NOT do this

else they'd have gone for the prize in that competition [that has had no takers as of yet]

And how do you know dudes with planks and stilts didn't do this? Just because you or I couldn't?

Every crop circle thread that pops up here I as the same question, with no adequate replies. Why weren't designs like this made in the 70s? Why were they very basic back then, only to get steadily better over the years? How come? Why do you always assume that they were done in a single night? Or just at night?

Instead of ignoring the masses of evidence, and proof that people make crop circles, can you show me any that aliens did them?

It's all down to better planning, gps, and a system that works every time, regardless of the pattern.

Humans make them....

Sure! Humans who:
1. make no footprints in wet soil after it has rained - either in the crop circle or leading to it from a road.
2. can trample over dozens of square yards of field without snapping any of the crop stalks.
3. can batter crops to the ground, causing the nodes in their stalks to swell, so that they bend only at points close to the ground.
4. execute perfect, complex crop circles in the pitch black of a night in various fields in the Wiltshire countryside, yet never get caught by dozens of croppies watching all these favourite hotspots from nearby hills.

You don't want to believe in far-fetched explanations like aliens making crop circles. Yet you ask me to believe alternative explanations that are hardly more credible.

Ridiculous. Just because you or I cant explain your 1-4 list, that means it wasn't humans but aliens? Really?

Anyway, as always you didn't explain how they have become more detailed over the years? People seem to have forgot that the crop circles from the 70s were originally believed to be markings that ufos made when they landed in the fields. As they have advanced over the years they are now thought of as messages instead.

Whilst some CC makers are good, there are obviously some who are great at it, and then there are some that are experts at it. We see CCs from all 3 types, the OP is expertly done, but they're all made by humans in the end....

Bingo ! You can't explain any of the 1 -4 list !

This is the year 2012. You can't explain it !

Seek the truth. Stop running away from the truth.
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BTW, the truth is that the Grays made this crop circle.

I think you should honestly give David Copperfield a phone call and see what he says.

He could let you borrow his floating sofa.

I have posted this in another crop circle thread because I think it has merit...

I have a way to settle the crop circle phenomenon once and for all!

You heard me correctly.

I thought about creating a thread based on this but why not add it here...
Here is how.

Several fields have designs each year or every other year.

Set up a perimeter around one of these famous and often used fields with night vision cameras and laser trip lines overlapping so that no one could enter or leave without being spotted.
Monitor for a few weeks, or a season.
If a circle shows up in the night without tripping any detectors we have at least eliminated physical human involvement.


Now you say who has this money or time...well how about Nation Geographic, Discovery or Sci-fi they are always doing shows about paranormal/ufo stuff these days!

Of course this could blow the careers of crop hunters so it makes you wonder if they would really want this to happen... But if a formation was created without physical involvment it could be a major breakthrough.

Now just because we have eliminated humans creating them physically does not mean they could have been done with some sort of device.

In the past few years I have come to really appreciate the artistic side of the circle makers. The complexity and enormity of them is becoming astounding to the point if it is human made would take a team of artist to do it. These designs take planning and precision (getting the crop to lay in different directions to appear as shading is amazing to me!). This does not mean however they could not have been created by humans.
Anyone who believes humans could not create a crop circle and these are alien or some other phenomenon in origin is as foolish, shortsighted and is as narrow minded as the skeptics

Originally posted by abeverage
I have posted this in another crop circle thread because I think it has merit...

I have a way to settle the crop circle phenomenon once and for all!

You heard me correctly.

I thought about creating a thread based on this but why not add it here...
Here is how.

Several fields have designs each year or every other year.

Set up a perimeter around one of these famous and often used fields with night vision cameras and laser trip lines overlapping so that no one could enter or leave without being spotted.
Monitor for a few weeks, or a season.
If a circle shows up in the night without tripping any detectors we have at least eliminated physical human involvement.


Now you say who has this money or time...well how about Nation Geographic, Discovery or Sci-fi they are always doing shows about paranormal/ufo stuff these days!

Of course this could blow the careers of crop hunters so it makes you wonder if they would really want this to happen... But if a formation was created without physical involvment it could be a major breakthrough.

Now just because we have eliminated humans creating them physically does not mean they could have been done with some sort of device.

In the past few years I have come to really appreciate the artistic side of the circle makers. The complexity and enormity of them is becoming astounding to the point if it is human made would take a team of artist to do it. These designs take planning and precision (getting the crop to lay in different directions to appear as shading is amazing to me!). This does not mean however they could not have been created by humans.
Anyone who believes humans could not create a crop circle and these are alien or some other phenomenon in origin is as foolish, shortsighted and is as narrow minded as the skeptics

No, the solution is to have the Grays make a new crop circle during the day right in

front of Fox News, CNN and the New York Times reporters in about 4 minutes.

When that is aired on national TV, then the crop circle mystery will fade away.

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Okay, well what about the hoaxers?

They were paid to muddy the water. Oh, well.....never mind then.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Eurisko2012, your rants are hardly helpful to anyone. Also, your silly attempt at making yourself seem amused isn't working - it's obvious you're mad as hell.

Anyway.. the ratio of evidence for crop circles being man made and alien made is 100% man made / 0% alien made. It's nothing more than well expected that there are countless videos and confessions of people who make these things, while there's zero evidence of anything extraterrestrial in these crop circles throughout history.

The only thing you might consider calling evidence is your laughable excuses for why these can't possibly be man made. They are all invalid and factually wrong, yet you act like anyone that claims otherwise is a nut, when it's obvious who the nuts are.

As I said earlier, at large - the very idea of aliens traveling all the way to Earth only to make vague signs in crop fields that nobody is able to understand the meaning of, is absurd. What's more absurd is people like you who can't comprehend that these circles are hoaxes by people who reel you and the likes of you one by one, time after time only to have themselves entertained by the mass of fools that "use throughout thinking" into deciding these works are extraterrestrial.

If I had a crop field I'd be making quick $$ from the likes of you. I'd probably manage to sell you a genuine gray alien autograph and a stone from alpha-centauri.

edit on 28-8-2012 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)

Okay, you have the confidence! Great!

Go ahead and make an exact copy of this cube crop circle.

I don't want to hear anymore excuses. Stop pontificating and make the exact same

crop circle. Video tape it and put it on YouTube. I predict you will fall flat on your face

and then declare " It cannot be done."

Getting a random person to replicate this crop circle and use it as proof that it can not be man made is like getting a random non-guitar player to pick up a guitar and play Jimi Hendrix's Voodoo Child flawlessly and if he doesn't then thats proof hendrix is an alien.
It's this kind of twisted logic to suit your beliefs that are the reason why real critical thinking, investigation, logic and reason are thrown out of the window on these forums.

disclosure, a concept originally pushed hard by Steven Greer. We don't need to go into that now do we?

as much as it disappoints me to say, i will more or less stake my life on the fact that there will be no disclosure of any sort at the end of this year. After exhaustively looking into this for the last few years i've been convinced, unconvinced, stressed, excited and disappointed.

I will say one thing though, for the last 3 yrs on this site and others, there have been clear predictions about:

global financial disaster
the weather going crazy
natural phenomenon/disaster increasing
war in the middle east, leading to ww3

now. without citing those actual posts/claims, I'm alarmed at how much of that has actually happened. Only the mainstream has ignored the original claims. I find that quite alarming, but i've been on these trips before and they've lead to nothing, so i don't dwell on their accuracy. I've closed my site and try and distance myself from these things for my own sanity.

You can seriously send yourself mental with this stuff.