The Mysterious Baltic Sea Object : an Update from Peter Lindberg "Ocean Explorers Team"

reply to post by AR154


Heard that one ages ago mate and it's unlikely due to size difference.

reply to post by Heliocentric

Based on the professional divers' account (and it's the only qualified account we have so far)

Its also an account from a bunch of treasure hunters looking to promote their documentary .

Lindberg says a documentary is being made about the seafloor anomaly....
and he's saving some juicy details for the footage. "We're not telling everything," he said. "We will reveal some quite interesting things in the documentary."

and I personally feel Brüchert has a big mouth saying this is "not unusual".

Yeah ... what does he know , he's only Prof. Volker Brüchert Associate Professor of Geology at Stockholm University , the fact that he knows the area in Geological and historical terms doesn't give him the right to express a different opinion to a bunch of professional treasure hunters .

He has come to his conclusion as you have to yours , yours is a guess based on potentially misleading information from a group who have a vested interest in portraying this formation as something mysterious , his is based on samples from the dive site , a PHD and years of experience in the field .... who's opinion carries more weight .

Professor Bruchert also received a single loose piece of basaltic rock from the divers, which is a type of hardened lava. “Because the whole northern Baltic region is so heavily influenced by glacial thawing processes, both the feature and the rock samples are likely to have formed in connection with glacial and postglacial processes. Possibly these rocks were transported there by glaciers.”
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Originally posted by Heliocentric
Based on the professional divers' account (and it's the only qualified account we have so far),

So how is a "professional diver" (and treasure hunter) suddenly an expert on geology? And yet you are deriding the scientific assessment of the rock samples provided by the professor of geology who is so far, the only QUALIFIED professional opinion we have on anything from the site.

Originally posted by Heliocentric

Originally posted by bluestreak53
And as long as you get people putting up threads on this totally overhyped "discovery" you are going to have people challenging them to provide any sort of indication that this is one iota related to aliens or UFOs.

Challenge them all you like, it's of no concern of me. I haven't even mentioned aliens, you have. But please stop accusing the Ocean X Team of things they haven't done or said. Verify the facts you have at your disposal and stick to them and you'll have my respect. Spread unproven assumptions around and I'll be there telling you they're nothing but assumptions.

What accusations? They are the ones who have posted an illustration that makes an ordinary rock formation look like a giant pristine spaceship as a background wallpaper on their site.

You are obviously just trying to keep this pointless discussion going by your assertion that it is me who is spreading "unproven assumptions" when it is obvious that the "Baltic cowboys" are the ones who are hiding the facts about their discovery in their refusal to respond to the assessment that the rock formation is an ordinary glacial deposit.

I just found this very interesting animation of the Ice Age ice sheets around the baltic.

www.akira.ruc.dk...

It shows that the area where the 'USO' is found (off the southern tip of Sweden) is right at the confluence of ice/water and land movements, giving a very good indication how it could be a rock put there by glacial movements in the past.

The reason it is so relatively smooth is likely just a matter of rather strong ocean currents.

Edit: It's in Danish, but just select a period (a red dot), and press play.

Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by Heliocentric
Based on the professional divers' account (and it's the only qualified account we have so far),

So how is a "professional diver" (and treasure hunter) suddenly an expert on geology? And yet you are deriding the scientific assessment of the rock samples provided by the professor of geology who is so far, the only QUALIFIED professional opinion we have on anything from the site.

Originally posted by Heliocentric

Originally posted by bluestreak53
And as long as you get people putting up threads on this totally overhyped "discovery" you are going to have people challenging them to provide any sort of indication that this is one iota related to aliens or UFOs.

Challenge them all you like, it's of no concern of me. I haven't even mentioned aliens, you have. But please stop accusing the Ocean X Team of things they haven't done or said. Verify the facts you have at your disposal and stick to them and you'll have my respect. Spread unproven assumptions around and I'll be there telling you they're nothing but assumptions.

What accusations? They are the ones who have posted an illustration that makes an ordinary rock formation look like a giant pristine spaceship as a background wallpaper on their site.

You are obviously just trying to keep this pointless discussion going by your assertion that it is me who is spreading "unproven assumptions" when it is obvious that the "Baltic cowboys" are the ones who are hiding the facts about their discovery in their refusal to respond to the assessment that the rock formation is an ordinary glacial deposit.

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This is what is going on.

“Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.” – Carl Sagan

Veteran Swedish treasure hunters, the Ocean Explorer Team will at last embark on a long anticipated return trip to the massive and mysterious object lying some 85 metres under the Baltic Sea – known simply as the “Baltic Anomaly”.
Special report by Craig Brown (Editor)truthfall.com...

New Multi-Beam Sonar Images Released Contradict Mainstream “Explanations”
Voyage Begins Next Saturday 8th September and Will Last 8-9 days
Team Will Look At Other Shipwrecks Also To Finance This Project
Excitement As Team Will Investigate Second Anomaly For The First Time
New Expedition Should Provide More Answers To Object’s Origin
New Images Show 2-3 Metre Long Square With Perfectly Round Hole Inside
Depressions With Perfectly Straight Edges Many Metres Long
The team, led by OceanX founders Dennis Aasberg and Peter Lindberg will leave Norrtälje harbour, Sweden on the 8th September after a second trip in July ended in disappointment due to multiple equipment failures. Despite this previous setback, the team are determined to get answers and when you see the latest sonar images you will understand why.

Out of place

This unnatural looking mushroom shaped structure protrudes vertically upwards out of the normally featureless seabed by an incredible 12 metres (40 feet) with the dome on top spanning an impressive 60 metres (180 feet) – equivalent to the wingspan of a commercial airliner. This is no small find!

Not only is the massive scale of the object utterly impressive, but the other thing that hits you between the eyes is also how ridiculously out of place it seems. The Baltic Sea is what’s known as a “dead-zone” with massive expanses of flat and featureless seabed. Yet in the middle of it all we find a 12 metre high champagne cork shaped object literally – “sticking up like a sore thumb”. Then there is the tantalizing prospect of the as yet uninvestigated second and third anomalies lying close by and begging closer inspection.

When news first broke of the finding back in June? 2011 a sensationalist world media jumped on the images comparing the sidescan sonar images to Han Solo’s Millenium Falcon. In truth, there was a very real visual similarity when the top-down views were compared but not much in the way of substance beyond that. The OceanX team, like the rest of us, were eager to solve the mystery and so here we are on the verge of another return trip and another voyage into the unknown, or perhaps a voyage into our own distant human origins.


Announcing the new expedition a few days ago Ocean X Co-Founder Dennis Aasberg said…

“We go out from Norrtälje 7 or 8 september, and it is not we were hoping for … we are missing some equipment unfortunately. And now we also look at object 2 with ROV. We will also look at a wreck which we hope has load of interesting things so we can get money into the project … for that we need now.”

“Investigation continues, we will take more samples, more photos and movies, and identify the object if we can. before when we were there we saw only 30 cm. We will also try to find the hole …. and if we do, we will bring down a camera. We will also look at object 2. Now we hope that everything works and that the weather is good.” -- Dennis Aasberg


Worldwide interest

Interest in the anomaly has been intense and unrelenting. Even now, some 14 months after the initial discovery was announced, more and more people are becoming fascinated by the story, perhaps due to the fact that if anything, the anomaly becomes MORE mysterious with every new revelation and release of images. The range of discoveries have gradually woven an emerging picture that whatever this is, it is probably very very old and parts of it (if not all of it), have in some way been constructed or fashioned.

Unnatural features defy explanation

Small stone circles with the appearance of arranged fireplaces were found in multiple locations lying on top of the main 180 ft wide dome, along with a strange 4 metre wide mini-dome, unashamedly nicknamed - “The Meringue”. As if your weirdometer wasn’t pinging enough already, divers found a perfectly round 25-30cm hole embedded in the structure followed by discoveries that have no right to be there; extremely large perfect 90 degree right angles, straight edges shaped like doorways, windows and passages many metres long. Surfaces that look like concrete and are perfectly smooth. Then there’s the bizarre resemblance to a huge set of eight “stairs” each one 3 foot tall descending down one side of the anomaly as if once crafted by giants and left preserved there for eons. Lastly, and more impressive, the recently published Facebook sonar images that show more angular and geometric features with one astonishing image showing a 2-3 metre wide perfectly circular hole nested inside a perfectly square cavity.

Expedition costs

Expeditions such as this are extremely expensive. Diesel for the voyage alone costs many thousands of Euros, a crew of expert divers also need to be paid; then there is the hire costs for the multi-million dollar manifest of equipment such as the remotely piloted submarine; not to mention paying a chef, a captain, other crew members and buying enough food to last 11 people for over a week. These costs have to be paid by someone if any of us anxiously awaiting updates here on dry-land are to find out the true nature of what is down there on the seabed.

The Documentary

To help offset the significant personal investments OceanX owners have made in this, the team have acquired a few welcome sponsors along the way to cover the huge expense of simply investigating the anomaly. The main sponsor is Swedish Television production company Titan TV who were smart enough to realise that there would be phenomenal worldwide interest in the discovery and an opportunity to sell a documentary to a flock of eager TV channels.

The OceanX team needed considerable finance to go back out and explore the anomaly, and in return Titan would get exclusive footage and access to the expeditions in order to make their documentary film.

This decision seems to have been a bit of a double-edged sword for the team; on one hand they managed to acquire the source of funding they so desperately needed in order to make return expeditions to the site, but on the other hand they would now be limited through signed legally binding contracts as to what (if any) of the most controversial footage they could release before the documentary is broadcast. Reading between the lines and listening to the online discussions of the team it is clear that there is some incredible footage yet to be made public.

Although frustrating for most people desperate to know more, it is understandable given the huge costs of assembling a team and getting them on-site for up to a week at a time. The finished Titan TV documentary when televised will surely blow the lid on an already explosive story and give this unique discovery the worldwide acclaim it deserves.


If you want to read on the link to the article is posted above.

Originally posted by P12SOLD
....anomaly becomes MORE mysterious with every new revelation and release of images.

Honestly, to me it's not really an 'anomaly', it's just a geological feature, with holes and rock piles, probably of totally natural origin, namely from how the ancient rock formed and perhaps splintered ('steps', 'doors' etc).

Serious pics, or it's just a rock.

Goto: www.akira.ruc.dk...
Click on the button called 'Ung Baltisk Is' (Young Baltic Ice) in the lower right corner, and press play.

Note where the ice finally receeds along the eastern coast of Sweden? That's exactly where this rock lies, likely dropped by the receeding ice. Mind you, I'm no geologist, but it should be obvious that a natural explanation is completely unproblematic imo.

And having seen places like the Giants Causeway, and elsewhere, I can't see why it deserves the label 'anomaly'. Many natural phenomena are much more 'abnormal'.

So...any conclusions on this yet? Any progress whatsoever?

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Stay tuned for the documentary ..., although it won't be that exciting as the "Baltic UFO" is just a rock formation probably glacial in origin .

It looks like the release is planned for next month .

“The documentary will be ready for the market in March, they are still editing it at Titan. But I can’t imagine that any DVD version will be on the market until the documentary has been broadcasted. It is usually the way it goes. Maybe a DVD version will have some extra material, we have to wait and see.” and Stefan Hogeborn:
thebalticanomaly.se...

The ONLY reason he said it could be a rock, or volcanic rock, to be exact, is because it was BLACK. That's all they know right now as they have not publicly admitted to retrieving a sample! (obviously if they did retrieve a sample and found it to be volcanic rock, then it would have been admitted long ago and probably multiple uniqueversities would have a chunk of the retreived sample to verify and validate the findings, and if they found it to be manmade or something else that wasn't boring, they would just say they had not yet been able to retrieve a sample)

Why was it again that they said they could not retrieve a sample?

All they know is its something black, so they are just guessing that its volcanic rock. They don't even know if its rock, metal, the shell of some long dead creature....etc x infinity...

The fact that it remains UNIDENTIFIED, and seems somewhat saucer shaped, and has a long drag mark to the side where it looks like something landed, admission from the expedition team that it had an effect on their electronic equipment similar to what has been described in many UFO encounters reported, and other reasons I could list, give it more than enough criteria to go into the Alien/UFO forum, as well as a number of other forums, for those who find themselves wondering about that particular aspect of this thread...

To me it looks like...hmmmmmm...I dunno...something that should not be disturbed. Examine it all you want, but do not touch. We can scan a star or planet to find out its elements...there must be some way to do an xray or something without touching it.

Honestly if its the only one we know of, there should be some sort of protection, at least in a legal sense. But we simply must know what it is! I can't believe its taking this long!

Well we may be close to seeing the long awaited documentary , this was posted 3 weeks ago .

2013-03-11
At last! We have finnished the last additional interviews for the TV documentary with Titan. It will be ready for distribution next week
www.oceanexplorer.se...

They're planning another trip out to the Baltic this summer but first they've got to go find some Gold ...Arr Jim lad

Originally posted by 3n19m470


The ONLY reason he said it could be a rock, or volcanic rock, to be exact, is because it was BLACK. That's all they know right now as they have not publicly admitted to retrieving a sample! (obviously if they did retrieve a sample and found it to be volcanic rock, then it would have been admitted long ago and probably multiple uniqueversities would have a chunk of the retreived sample to verify and validate the findings, and if they found it to be manmade or something else that wasn't boring, they would just say they had not yet been able to retrieve a sample)

Why was it again that they said they could not retrieve a sample?

All they know is its something black, so they are just guessing that its volcanic rock. They don't even know if its rock, metal, the shell of some long dead creature....etc x infinity...

The fact that it remains UNIDENTIFIED, and seems somewhat saucer shaped, and has a long drag mark to the side where it looks like something landed, admission from the expedition team that it had an effect on their electronic equipment similar to what has been described in many UFO encounters reported, and other reasons I could list, give it more than enough criteria to go into the Alien/UFO forum, as well as a number of other forums, for those who find themselves wondering about that particular aspect of this thread...

To me it looks like...hmmmmmm...I dunno...something that should not be disturbed. Examine it all you want, but do not touch. We can scan a star or planet to find out its elements...there must be some way to do an xray or something without touching it.

Honestly if its the only one we know of, there should be some sort of protection, at least in a legal sense. But we simply must know what it is! I can't believe its taking this long!

They did take samples. Things like granite and sand stone and other rocks. Nothing suprising if it is a glacial formation as most people seem to think. And would explain why they have moved on to other things. Of course they did milk it for all they could before all the mystery kind of ran out.